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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 13:50:03 GMT
"If you means text the state pension then it would demotivate people to contribute to private pensions . Does the charity that the king donates his pension to need the money"? I do not know what you mean by ' text' in this context? So do you believe that the poorest pensioners in society receive enough to live on? Answer the question that you replied to You assume wrong . I am addressing your point “ Would 'MEANS TESTING ' the state pension in some form, to favour those with just the state pension not be a better way of going forward. “. The best policy is to give everyone a basic state pension and allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits . Oh look that’s what we do . Don’t hide behind a typo and dont make up strawmen …you “ So do you believe that the poorest pensioners in society receive enough to live on?“ Ah, thanks for that, I 'assumed I had missed something but now it's clear, easy isn't it? No that is a question based on you statement to me _ "The best policy is to give everyone a basic state pension and allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits, Oh look that’s what we do". I think a perfectly reasonable question to ask from that statement is "So do you believe that the poorest pensioners in society receive enough to live on", it's called carrying on the conversation and seeking clarity, something you appear to be unwilling to do. So do you "believe that the poorest pensioners in society receive enough to live on", or are you just avoiding a straight answer by accusing me of being a "straw man" again? . Oh look that’s what we do . |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 29, 2023 14:13:22 GMT
Answer the question that you replied to You assume wrong . I am addressing your point “ Would 'MEANS TESTING ' the state pension in some form, to favour those with just the state pension not be a better way of going forward. “. The best policy is to give everyone a basic state pension and allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits . Oh look that’s what we do . Don’t hide behind a typo and dont make up strawmen …you “ So do you believe that the poorest pensioners in society receive enough to live on?“ Ah, thanks for that, I 'assumed I had missed something but now it's clear, easy isn't it? No that is a question based on you statement to me _ "The best policy is to give everyone a basic state pension and allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits, Oh look that’s what we do". I think a perfectly reasonable question to ask from that statement is "So do you believe that the poorest pensioners in society receive enough to live on", it's called carrying on the conversation and seeking clarity, something you appear to be unwilling to do. So do you "believe that the poorest pensioners in society receive enough to live on", or are you just avoiding a straight answer by accusing me of being a "straw man" again? . Oh look that’s what we do . It was a strawman. Nothing I posted suggested that I believe it . Do you post strawmen often? Probably best for you to read the words on the post and not the ones in your head . Try again “ The best policy is to give everyone a basic state pension and allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits, Oh look that’s what we do". Have another go 😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 14:27:13 GMT
Ah, thanks for that, I 'assumed I had missed something but now it's clear, easy isn't it? No that is a question based on you statement to me _ "The best policy is to give everyone a basic state pension and allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits, Oh look that’s what we do". I think a perfectly reasonable question to ask from that statement is "So do you believe that the poorest pensioners in society receive enough to live on", it's called carrying on the conversation and seeking clarity, something you appear to be unwilling to do. So do you "believe that the poorest pensioners in society receive enough to live on", or are you just avoiding a straight answer by accusing me of being a "straw man" again? . Oh look that’s what we do . It was a strawman. Nothing I posted suggested that I believe it . Do you post strawmen often? Probably best for you to read the words on the post and not the ones in your head . Try again “ The best policy is to give everyone a basic state pension and allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits, Oh look that’s what we do". Have another go 😁 This certainly does, "The best policy is to give everyone a basic state pension and allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits, Oh look that’s what we do". I see that asking for clarity of you position, you could have said yes or no, is now considered a straw man. It is not an 'inference' or an 'assumption' that you are saying that pensioners who receive a basic state pension are getting enough wit the benefits they can claim and there is no more to be done. In your opinion how should I have asked the question, or should I not have asked it at all. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 29, 2023 14:34:08 GMT
It was a strawman. Nothing I posted suggested that I believe it . Do you post strawmen often? Probably best for you to read the words on the post and not the ones in your head . Try again “ The best policy is to give everyone a basic state pension and allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits, Oh look that’s what we do". Have another go 😁 This certainly does, "The best policy is to give everyone a basic state pension and allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits, Oh look that’s what we do". I see that asking for clarity of you position, you could have said yes or no, is now considered a straw man. It is not an 'inference' or an 'assumption' that you are saying that pensioners who receive a basic state pension are getting enough wit the benefits they can claim and there is no more to be done. In your opinion how should I have asked the question, or should I not have asked it at all. Ah , I see your problem. You have no idea how to read a sentence . You read “allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits “ and somewhere between your ears you constructed this “ allow the poorest state pensioners to claim limited extra benefits” or maybe “ allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits but still be poor “ Your inability explains a lot . |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 15:14:22 GMT
This certainly does, "The best policy is to give everyone a basic state pension and allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits, Oh look that’s what we do". I see that asking for clarity of you position, you could have said yes or no, is now considered a straw man. It is not an 'inference' or an 'assumption' that you are saying that pensioners who receive a basic state pension are getting enough wit the benefits they can claim and there is no more to be done. In your opinion how should I have asked the question, or should I not have asked it at all. Ah , I see your problem. You have no idea how to read a sentence . You read “allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits “ and somewhere between your ears you constructed this “ allow the poorest state pensioners to claim limited extra benefits” or maybe “ allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits but still be poor “ Your inability explains a lot . Nope you are lying again. You said "allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits" and then followed it with "Oh we already do that", if you quote yourself at least quote what you said. My point was straight forward a lot of pensioners on a basic state pension, with what they can claim in other benefits, do not get enough to live on and we should look at doing something to help them. I also said I do not know what the answer is but I do believe something should be done. Your statement led me to ask, "Do think they get enough". |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 29, 2023 15:23:50 GMT
Ah , I see your problem. You have no idea how to read a sentence . You read “allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits “ and somewhere between your ears you constructed this “ allow the poorest state pensioners to claim limited extra benefits” or maybe “ allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits but still be poor “ Your inability explains a lot . Nope you are lying again. You said "allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits" and then followed it with "Oh we already do that", if you quote yourself at least quote what you said. My point was straight forward a lot of pensioners on a basic state pension, with what they can claim in other benefits, do not get enough to live on and we should look at doing something to help them. I also said I do not know what the answer is but I do believe something should be done. Your statement led me to ask, "Do think they get enough". Nope, you are lying. I never said that benefits should be limited , I pointed out that they could claim extra benefits . You didn’t have a point. You had a straw man . Keep digging. It’s like arguing with Schopenhauer’s retarded brother 😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 15:32:12 GMT
Nope you are lying again. You said "allow the poorest state pensioners to claim extra benefits" and then followed it with "Oh we already do that", if you quote yourself at least quote what you said. My point was straight forward a lot of pensioners on a basic state pension, with what they can claim in other benefits, do not get enough to live on and we should look at doing something to help them. I also said I do not know what the answer is but I do believe something should be done. Your statement led me to ask, "Do think they get enough". Nope, you are lying. I never said that benefits should be limited , I pointed out that they could claim extra benefits . You didn’t have a point. You had a straw man . Keep digging. It’s like arguing with Schopenhauer’s retarded brother 😁 I never said that you said benefits should be limited, you are waffling again. I asked a simple question "do you think they get enough" but you don't do answers, do you. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 29, 2023 15:38:33 GMT
Nope, you are lying. I never said that benefits should be limited , I pointed out that they could claim extra benefits . You didn’t have a point. You had a straw man . Keep digging. It’s like arguing with Schopenhauer’s retarded brother 😁 I never said that you said benefits should be limited, you are waffling again. I asked a simple question "do you think they get enough" but you don't do answers, do you. You posted a strawman that had nothing to do with the post you answered . |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2023 6:59:30 GMT
I never said that you said benefits should be limited, you are waffling again. I asked a simple question "do you think they get enough" but you don't do answers, do you. You posted a strawman that had nothing to do with the post you answered . |
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