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Post by patman post on Sept 25, 2023 18:58:09 GMT
I am fully aware of what happened back then , the reason no armed officer was charged because they were ordered to open fire by a senior officer, that is why the Commissioner Office were fined and compensation was paid and rightly so. The Kaba case its totally different to today there is no comparison, you are way out of date deal in the here and now with facts not your biased imagination. I'm afraid that Pat still seems to be living in 1980. I was born in 1981 That’s probably 20 years or so after the majority of posters on here… |
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Post by patman post on Sept 25, 2023 19:07:07 GMT
The difference today is that a Police officer has been charged for an alleged murder committed while on duty. The public’s growing disquiet over the Met has probably led to possible cover ups becoming more difficult to hide, and for prosecutions to take place… What growing disquiet?
The Met still handle 10,000 incidents a day, so the public would seem quite happy to keep calling the police.
The current fauxtrage is entirely manufactured by the media, politicians, CPS, usual race-baiters, axe-grinders etc. etc.
Just wait until the next time there's a terrorist outrage and the police ride to the rescue. They'll be hailed as heroes again by the self-same idiots currently slagging them off.
And around we go.
Do we expect the Police to be upholders of the law? Or are they to be given special exemption so they can ignore what’s inconvenient, or likely to bring them into conflict with what most of us believe is civilised behaviour in a free country…? |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 25, 2023 19:18:18 GMT
The difference today is that a Police officer has been charged for an alleged murder committed while on duty. The public’s growing disquiet over the Met has probably led to possible cover ups becoming more difficult to hide, and for prosecutions to take place… But then you are not the judge or jury, so hinting that it might be all down to public outcry is a lot of bollox. When the case has been heard then you can surmise all you like. I still wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of the SAS hunting down their man though.Funny enough...
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 25, 2023 21:01:01 GMT
What growing disquiet?
The Met still handle 10,000 incidents a day, so the public would seem quite happy to keep calling the police.
The current fauxtrage is entirely manufactured by the media, politicians, CPS, usual race-baiters, axe-grinders etc. etc.
Just wait until the next time there's a terrorist outrage and the police ride to the rescue. They'll be hailed as heroes again by the self-same idiots currently slagging them off.
And around we go.
Do we expect the Police to be upholders of the law? Or are they to be given special exemption so they can ignore what’s inconvenient, or likely to bring them into conflict with what most of us believe is civilised behaviour in a free country…? who decides what is civilised behavior? |
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Post by patman post on Sept 25, 2023 21:16:16 GMT
Current civilisation — whatever that may be…
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 25, 2023 21:21:53 GMT
Current civilisation — whatever that may be… Well that is a total non answer. I suspect that you and i would have entirely different opinions over what constitutes civilised behaviour - so who decides? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 21:28:24 GMT
I'm afraid that Pat still seems to be living in 1980. I was born in 1981 That’s probably 20 years or so after the majority of posters on here… Don't worry, Pat, in 20+ years you'll catch up with our higher level of wisdom.  |
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Post by patman post on Sept 25, 2023 21:32:49 GMT
Current civilisation — whatever that may be… Well that is a total non answer. I suspect that you and i would have entirely different opinions over what constitutes civilised behaviour - so who decides? I doubt you’re that distant from decorous and sensitive behaviour — though you might occasionally stray. And I suggest it’s the majority view in any enclave that holds sway, for whatever time it is in the majority. It’s a bit like men wearing hats in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s world dominated by US culture, only to decide they’re only really necessary in sun and rain… |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 25, 2023 21:38:30 GMT
Well that is a total non answer. I suspect that you and i would have entirely different opinions over what constitutes civilised behaviour - so who decides? I doubt you’re that distant from decorous and sensitive behaviour — though you might occasionally stray. And I suggest it’s the majority view in any enclave that holds sway, for whatever time it is in the majority. It’s a bit like men wearing hats in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s world dominated by US culture, only to decide they’re only really necessary in sun and rain… OK - lets stick to the specific case in front of us. What is uncivilised about the police shooting a suspect in car linked to an armed robbery who refuses to stop and vacate the car? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 25, 2023 22:43:34 GMT
Do we expect the Police to be upholders of the law? Yes we do, "Without fear or favour" which means regardless of axe-grinders who may not like it. Or are they to be given special exemption so they can ignore what’s inconvenient, or likely to bring them into conflict with what most of us believe is civilised behaviour in a free country…? And do you speak for "Most of us"? You certainly don't speak for me - I'm happy for police to shoot dangerous criminals who deliberately ram police vehicles because that certainly isn't civilised behaviour. And most civilised people in most civilised countries would agree with me. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 26, 2023 2:50:06 GMT
Well that is a total non answer. I suspect that you and i would have entirely different opinions over what constitutes civilised behaviour - so who decides? I doubt you’re that distant from decorous and sensitive behaviour — though you might occasionally stray. And I suggest it’s the majority view in any enclave that holds sway, for whatever time it is in the majority. It’s a bit like men wearing hats in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s world dominated by US culture, only to decide they’re only really necessary in sun and rain… I've always worn a hat of some sort, these days it's a cap in winter, something lighter in summer although lets face it, in spite of alarmists it hasn't seen much use this summer. When I say cap, I mean a proper cap Harris Tweed, I'm not talking baseball, otherwise known as an IQ reducer. But you knew that. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 8:45:19 GMT
I doubt you’re that distant from decorous and sensitive behaviour — though you might occasionally stray. And I suggest it’s the majority view in any enclave that holds sway, for whatever time it is in the majority. It’s a bit like men wearing hats in the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s world dominated by US culture, only to decide they’re only really necessary in sun and rain… I've always worn a hat of some sort, these days it's a cap in winter, something lighter in summer although lets face it, in spite of alarmists it hasn't seen much use this summer. When I say cap, I mean a proper cap Harris Tweed, I'm not talking baseball, otherwise known as an IQ reducer. But you knew that. Are you really posting this off topic bilge at 4 in the morning, in a serious thread? Don't be swayed off topic by our very anti-police forum member. He doesn't want to discuss the facts about crime in London, or who is committing it. |
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Post by patman post on Sept 26, 2023 11:33:44 GMT
Eh? - those Police getting on their knees at BLM demonstrations, taking part in Gay pride parades and arresting people for writing nasty things on Twitter about gays and transgenders are like the BNP? Give your head a shake Pat..  His apparent racial hatred toward white people seems to cloud his reality.
If you read through this whole thread I doubt you’ll find any reference by me to anyones ethnicity… |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 27, 2023 16:28:22 GMT
And Chris Kaba's co-accused appear in court.
Well, well...
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Post by patman post on Sept 27, 2023 16:57:27 GMT
And Chris Kaba's co-accused appear in court.
Well, well...
But Chris Kaba is not able to appear in court… |
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