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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 22, 2023 6:41:06 GMT
When he is acquitted do we think that the promising young footballers will riot?
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 22, 2023 6:49:46 GMT
The election will be behind us by then so London riots shouldn't be too much of a problem.
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Post by Handyman on Sept 22, 2023 9:14:17 GMT
When he is acquitted do we think that the promising young footballers will riot? It will certainly be an interesting Trial |
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Post by bancroft on Sept 22, 2023 10:25:48 GMT
It was not his SUV , we will have to wait for the trial to begin and see what did happen and why I see the story has changed now so the latest is it was not his car, so does that mean he stole it or borrowed it? |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 22, 2023 10:55:26 GMT
It was not his SUV , we will have to wait for the trial to begin and see what did happen and why I see the story has changed now so the latest is it was not his car, so does that mean he stole it or borrowed it? No the story has not changed the vehicle had been flagged up in the Police ANPR system as being involved in a serious incident a day or two before , that is why the Police were following the car that day their intention was to stop it which they did, because of the information on the ANPR an unmarked Police car with armed officers on board was used to stop it. The car was not stolen but did not belong to him, it is well known that Criminals will use what are called pool cars they share between them |
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Post by wapentake on Sept 22, 2023 16:04:43 GMT
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Post by bancroft on Sept 23, 2023 13:38:17 GMT
I see the story has changed now so the latest is it was not his car, so does that mean he stole it or borrowed it? No the story has not changed the vehicle had been flagged up in the Police ANPR system as being involved in a serious incident a day or two before , that is why the Police were following the car that day their intention was to stop it which they did, because of the information on the ANPR an unmarked Police car with armed officers on board was used to stop it. The car was not stolen but did not belong to him, it is well known that Criminals will use what are called pool cars they share between them Not where I read it, it had changed just liked the Westminster attacker a few years earlier both Reuters and the Dailymail said there were two of them, that changed within 90 mins to just one. Not saying there is anything dodgy here might have been lazy reporting or just old Chinese whispers to get the story out first. |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 23, 2023 14:04:48 GMT
It was reported on at the time of the stop and the Officer shooting the driver
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Post by bancroft on Sept 23, 2023 14:12:41 GMT
It was reported on at the time of the stop and the Officer shooting the driver Yes that part was consistent yet we do not know what was said over the police air waves, did he have a green light or was it his decision in the moment? |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 23, 2023 14:21:54 GMT
It was reported on at the time of the stop and the Officer shooting the driver Yes that part was consistent yet we do not know what was said over the police air waves, did he have a green light or was it his decision in the moment? Of course we do not know what the Police said over the radio at this point in time it is highly likely to be a commentary by the Police Officers following him giving directions to other Police Vehicles getting in place to stop him, the decision to open fire is made by the Firearms Officer and any Officer that does open fire has to justify it in full. In normal circumstances no Armed Officer can be ordered by a Senior Officer to open fire, in recent times a Senior Officer Cressida Dick did give the order to open fire in the Menendez case and a totally innocent man was shot dead |
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Post by wapentake on Sept 23, 2023 19:58:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 20:07:25 GMT
At least it will prevent more shootings by those "Dirty Harry" and "gung-ho cops" that some posters on here imagine exist in the Met. |
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Post by bancroft on Sept 23, 2023 20:56:41 GMT
Yes that part was consistent yet we do not know what was said over the police air waves, did he have a green light or was it his decision in the moment? Of course we do not know what the Police said over the radio at this point in time it is highly likely to be a commentary by the Police Officers following him giving directions to other Police Vehicles getting in place to stop him, the decision to open fire is made by the Firearms Officer and any Officer that does open fire has to justify it in full. In normal circumstances no Armed Officer can be ordered by a Senior Officer to open fire, in recent times a Senior Officer Cressida Dick did give the order to open fire in the Menendez case and a totally innocent man was shot dead Well that was meant to be a terrorist decision, though having watched the Ripple effect and remembering the press at the time at Canary Wharf suggesting one got away. Guess we will never know, a mate had a friend at CW and said two body bags were removed there though later Reuters changed their story. I was travelling to CW by cab at times and it was strange when they had the guards out with assault rifles and when they did not. |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 24, 2023 10:05:12 GMT
Of course we do not know what the Police said over the radio at this point in time it is highly likely to be a commentary by the Police Officers following him giving directions to other Police Vehicles getting in place to stop him, the decision to open fire is made by the Firearms Officer and any Officer that does open fire has to justify it in full. In normal circumstances no Armed Officer can be ordered by a Senior Officer to open fire, in recent times a Senior Officer Cressida Dick did give the order to open fire in the Menendez case and a totally innocent man was shot dead Well that was meant to be a terrorist decision, though having watched the Ripple effect and remembering the press at the time at Canary Wharf suggesting one got away. Guess we will never know, a mate had a friend at CW and said two body bags were removed there though later Reuters changed their story. I was travelling to CW by cab at times and it was strange when they had the guards out with assault rifles and when they did not. It was a complete balls up from start to finish |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 24, 2023 11:00:25 GMT
Well that was meant to be a terrorist decision, though having watched the Ripple effect and remembering the press at the time at Canary Wharf suggesting one got away. Guess we will never know, a mate had a friend at CW and said two body bags were removed there though later Reuters changed their story. I was travelling to CW by cab at times and it was strange when they had the guards out with assault rifles and when they did not. It was a complete balls up from start to finish I have though for a long time now our armed policemen are on a no winner. They are dambed if they do and dammend if they don't. What a thankless task they have. |
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