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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 15:13:01 GMT
Not particularly, I hear the fight between the SNP and new Labour for who takes us back to the sunny uplands of the EU is more interesting. not really sheepy. The snp policy currently on eu membership isnt credible .Even salmond is mocking them over their nonsensical stance.
Its nothing more than a fantasy that means zilch without indy , and evne with indy isnt credble.
As for labour , in scotland , they are being mocked for allegedly supporting brexit , while they are testing the rejoin water in england. The labour party havent really caught up with the age of communication , and how ridiculous they sound saying one thing in scotland while saying another in england. Trying to face both ways at the same time never works , but you cant tell them.
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brexit-really-important-on-doorstep-says-snp-s-rutherglen-by-election-candidate/ar-AA1h9n8D?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4654a5ba13c04a1d8cb032826b868f05&ei=21No it seems they are playing the same card, I cannot see it ending well for the SNP.
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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 15:14:19 GMT
Not particularly, I hear the fight between the SNP and new Labour for who takes us back to the sunny uplands of the EU is more interesting. sheepy you should jump over to twitter and see some of the nutty remoaners being intervied on the rejoin march . Funny as hell. Dear christ above , i thought darling was one in a million , but by christ he seems typical of the nutty remoaner breed.
I think if starmer fails to win the next election there could be mass suicides in the middle class suburbs .
Dunno but the bus companies must be doing alright. With the train strikes as well.
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 15:40:21 GMT
If Labour win the next GE will we prob be on course to join the single market . If there is a Lab/ Lib coalition even more so . That’s just the way it is imo. The remainers have control of the narrative . no shit sherlock. with the single market comes the principles that underpin it , the four freedoms including freedom of movement. The very things that brexiters didint like in the first place.
Bascially starmer will take an election win as a starter gun being fired to carry on with his silly BRINO policy. it will be a public humiliation unparralleled in the uks three hundred year history. im saying this with a straight face and absolutely no intention to mock , merely post a fact.
it can be spun any way anyone wants , but it will announce to the world the final nail in the coffin of the british empire , and the uk as a mere region of a supranational europe.
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 15:44:19 GMT
sheepy , while scots are clearly pro european , the idea brexit is a major talkng point on the doorstep is nothing more than snp nonsense. What is an snp win in a by election going to do about brexit even if the guff they are talking is true?
The snp cant take the uk back into the eu , and it doesnt appear to have the balls to take scotland out the uk and into the eu.
further , as i understand it , polls show currently a narrow labour victory on the rutherglen doorsteps . So if brexit is important as they claim , then it doesnt appear to be swaying voters away from labour. I think snp ineptitude , and unionism is more of a danger than flapping gobs about englands brexit .
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Post by Bentley on Sept 23, 2023 15:44:44 GMT
If Labour win the next GE will we prob be on course to join the single market . If there is a Lab/ Lib coalition even more so . That’s just the way it is imo. The remainers have control of the narrative . no shit sherlock. with the single market comes the principles that underpin it , the four freedoms including freedom of movement. The very things that brexiters didint like in the first place.
Bascially starmer will take an election win as a starter gun being fired to carry on with his silly BRINO policy. it will be a public humiliation unparralleled in the uks three hundred year history. im saying this with a straight face and absolutely no intention to mock , merely post a fact.
it can be spun any way anyone wants , but it will announce to the world the final nail in the coffin of the british empire , and the uk as a mere region of a supranational europe.
Elementary my dear witless . The UK will move closer to the EU . This will piss in the Snat porridge and reduce the chances of FREEDOM! The British empire lives in remainers minds and Snats dreams . Nowhere else .
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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 15:45:58 GMT
sheepy , while scots are clearly pro european , the idea brexit is a major talkng point on the doorstep is nothing more than snp nonsense. What is an snp win in a by election going to do about brexit even if the guff they are talking is true?
The snp cant take the uk back into the eu , and it doesnt appear to have the balls to take scotland out the uk and into the eu.
further , as i understand it , polls show currently a narrow labour victory on the rutherglen doorsteps . So if brexit is important as they claim , then it doesnt appear to be swaying voters away from labour. I think snp ineptitude , and unionism is more of a danger than flapping gobs about englands brexit .
Exactly that thomas, they just as well say vote Labour.
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 15:53:34 GMT
no shit sherlock. with the single market comes the principles that underpin it , the four freedoms including freedom of movement. The very things that brexiters didint like in the first place.
Bascially starmer will take an election win as a starter gun being fired to carry on with his silly BRINO policy. it will be a public humiliation unparralleled in the uks three hundred year history. im saying this with a straight face and absolutely no intention to mock , merely post a fact.
it can be spun any way anyone wants , but it will announce to the world the final nail in the coffin of the british empire , and the uk as a mere region of a supranational europe.
Elementary my dear witless . The UK will move closer to the EU . This will piss in the Snat porridge and reduce the chances of FREEDOM! The British empire lives in remainers minds and Snats dreams . Nowhere else . dearie me ben e . If you are an example of the voter in englandshire , then heaven help your people.
we have been thorugh all this in the long wars since 2015 havent we. The closer to the eu you go , the more rules and regulations you take on the very thing brexiters dismissed. The further way you go , the less rules and regs you take. Its just round and round in circles year after year like some stuck record.
ah! the next great jam tomorrow ,eu membership and englands humiliation is going to stop scottish indy dead. you really are a man of faith ben e arent you? brexit isnt the cause of bwitains problems , its a symptom of the ending of the uk ben e .
ok mate...my bad . Are you telling me you are a secret remainer who doesnt mind being closer to the EU after all the squealing you have done over the years regarding brexit? talk about rats and sinking ships ben e.
You wouldnt suprise me ben e if in twelve months time you declare undying loyalty to labour , and try and tell us you have always been a secret europhile . how low has mighty england fallen when the nation who won the great victories at agincourt and ruled a third of the world is now reduced to relying on turncoats like you eh ?
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 15:55:25 GMT
sheepy , while scots are clearly pro european , the idea brexit is a major talkng point on the doorstep is nothing more than snp nonsense. What is an snp win in a by election going to do about brexit even if the guff they are talking is true?
The snp cant take the uk back into the eu , and it doesnt appear to have the balls to take scotland out the uk and into the eu.
further , as i understand it , polls show currently a narrow labour victory on the rutherglen doorsteps . So if brexit is important as they claim , then it doesnt appear to be swaying voters away from labour. I think snp ineptitude , and unionism is more of a danger than flapping gobs about englands brexit .
Exactly that thomas, they just as well say vote Labour. the area has roughly been a traditional labour stronghold but with a scottish independence undercurrent. I dont think brexit is a major issue sheepy in this by election.
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Post by Bentley on Sept 23, 2023 15:58:31 GMT
Elementary my dear witless . The UK will move closer to the EU . This will piss in the Snat porridge and reduce the chances of FREEDOM! The British empire lives in remainers minds and Snats dreams . Nowhere else . dearie me ben e . If you are an example of the voter in englandshire , then heaven help your people.
we have been thorugh all this in the long wars since 2015 havent we. The closer to the eu you go , the more rules and regulations you take on the very thing brexiters dismissed. The further way you go , the less rules and regs you take. Its just round and round in circles year after year like some stuck record.
ah! the next great jam tomorrow ,eu membership and englands humiliation is going to stop scottish indy dead. you really are a man of faith ben e arent you? brexit isnt the cause of bwitains problems , its a symptom of the ending of the uk ben e .
ok mate...my bad . Are you telling me you are a secret remainer who doesnt mind being closer to the EU after all the squealing you have done over the years regarding brexit? talk about rats and sinking ships ben e.
You wouldnt suprise me ben e if in twelve months time you declare undying loyalty to labour , and try and tell us you have always been a secret europhile . how low has mighty england fallen when the nation who won the great victories at agincourt and ruled a third of the world is now reduced to relying on turncoats like you eh ?
Well your bitter verbiage doesn’t refute the fact that the closer the UK gets to the EU , the less the sweaties can use Brexit as a reason for FREEDOM! You will just be left with freedom for freedoms sake and to stop the Sassanachs getting their hands on Scottish treasure . Its not looking good toomy. Lol
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 15:58:35 GMT
further , as i understand it , polls show currently a narrow labour victory on the rutherglen doorsteps . So if brexit is important as they claim , then it doesnt appear to be swaying voters away from labour. I think snp ineptitude , and unionism is more of a danger than flapping gobs about englands brexit .
Q. When do polls carry any authority? A. When Toejam quotes them. He will be the first to tell you that only polls he quotes have any validity. 90 consecutive polls by people he disagrees with are just wishful thinking. Do you have more than 90 consecutive polls to support your thoughts, Toejam?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 16:06:43 GMT
Those 2,000 people must have been representing the fabled 62% sheeps.
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 16:10:51 GMT
Those 2,000 people must have been representing the fabled 62% sheeps. That will have been the one million in 2017. After that, they learned that they just have to wait. That's the new strategy, Ned.
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 16:17:13 GMT
dearie me ben e . If you are an example of the voter in englandshire , then heaven help your people.
we have been thorugh all this in the long wars since 2015 havent we. The closer to the eu you go , the more rules and regulations you take on the very thing brexiters dismissed. The further way you go , the less rules and regs you take. Its just round and round in circles year after year like some stuck record.
ah! the next great jam tomorrow ,eu membership and englands humiliation is going to stop scottish indy dead. you really are a man of faith ben e arent you? brexit isnt the cause of bwitains problems , its a symptom of the ending of the uk ben e .
ok mate...my bad . Are you telling me you are a secret remainer who doesnt mind being closer to the EU after all the squealing you have done over the years regarding brexit? talk about rats and sinking ships ben e.
You wouldnt suprise me ben e if in twelve months time you declare undying loyalty to labour , and try and tell us you have always been a secret europhile . how low has mighty england fallen when the nation who won the great victories at agincourt and ruled a third of the world is now reduced to relying on turncoats like you eh ?
Well your bitter verbiage doesn’t refute the fact that the closer the UK gets to the EU , the less the sweaties can use Brexit as a reason for FREEDOM! You will just be left with freedom for freedoms sake and to stop the Sassanachs getting their hands on Scottish treasure . Its not looking good toomy. Lol but buccy you arent making any sense. you told me on the old forum if scotland had of voted for indy in 2014 we would have been thrown out of europe . so 45 % of the scottish voters were prepared to do just that to get out the uk.
Now you claim englands humiliating rejoin is going to stop scots leaving. do you see the disconnect here?
i personally dont think england rejoining the eu and becoming a mere small vassal region of brusells is going to save your uk , but you have to grasp all the straws you can clutch i suppose.
How the mighty have fallen though. 2016 , you were telling us the return of empire was just around the corner , now its back begging to be let back into the mighty eu to stop the jocks leaving and little england being left friendless.
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 16:19:36 GMT
further , as i understand it , polls show currently a narrow labour victory on the rutherglen doorsteps . So if brexit is important as they claim , then it doesnt appear to be swaying voters away from labour. I think snp ineptitude , and unionism is more of a danger than flapping gobs about englands brexit .
Q. When do polls carry any authority? A. When Toejam quotes them. He will be the first to tell you that only polls he quotes have any validity. 90 consecutive polls by people he disagrees with are just wishful thinking. Do you have more than 90 consecutive polls to support your thoughts, Toejam? They dont dyno. What matters for labour in this by election is the vote on the day , as i keep telling you about rejoin mate. you have to turn your imginary polls into electoral successes as i keeep telling you , not take them to bed like some comfort blanket .
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Post by Bentley on Sept 23, 2023 16:19:38 GMT
Well your bitter verbiage doesn’t refute the fact that the closer the UK gets to the EU , the less the sweaties can use Brexit as a reason for FREEDOM! You will just be left with freedom for freedoms sake and to stop the Sassanachs getting their hands on Scottish treasure . Its not looking good toomy. Lol but buccy you arent making any sense. you told me on the old forum if scotland had of voted for indy in 2014 we would have been thrown out of europe . so 45 % of the scottish voters were prepared to do just that to get out the uk.
Now you claim englands humiliating rejoin is going to stop scots leaving. do you see the disconnect here?
i personally dont think england rejoining the eu and becoming a mere small vassal region of brusells is going to save your uk , but you have to grasp all the straws you can clutch i suppose.
How the mighty have fallen though. 2016 , you were telling us the return of empire was just around the corner , now its back begging to be let back into the mighty eu to stop the jocks leaving and little england being left friendless.
You’ve been eating too many scotch eggs toomy . I didn’t tell you that.
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