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Post by Vinny on Sept 23, 2023 20:06:10 GMT
In short the only thing they really don't like about the deal is that we're an independent sovereign country, a democracy.
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 20:06:11 GMT
Is that the same white feather the Irish independence movement sent you, Toejam? When are you chicken shits going to do something? At least glue your faces to a road or something. i dont think scot indy is going to take lesson in independence from the likes of you and your pro european mates who want to stab your fellow englishmen in the back. The brave irish heroes got up off their arse and did something , rahter than sitting whining about democracy not being fair .
the man who earlier told me he couldnt be bothered backing up his latest drivel on this forum demanding we do something? self awareness isnt your strong point dyno is it ?
i suppose being beaten five nil by your fellow english at election times sort of sends you over the edge .
I couldn't care less, Toejam. When are you guys going to do something more than just talk. Not saying you should use violence or anything, just something to wipe a little of the chicken shit away will be fine. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 20:06:37 GMT
no thats a nonsense post , and nothing more than a mere word salad that doesnt show anything like what you are trying to imply.
in 2014 , two years before brexit , we had 45 % of scots voters vote for independence even if it meant scotland being kicked out of the european union. Agreed?
Thats the starting point.
Your claim is now here in 2023 , and subsequently since brexit , that scottish indy is now entertwined with the brexit debate , with the implication through this thread from you and your new mate ben e the turncoat , that rejoin will end scot indy or take it off the table. Where is the proof of that fact? Its certainly not in your word salad post above despite your depserate attmpts to scour the inter webby for something anythig to back up your claim brexits reversal will make all the problems with scot indy dissapear.
Here we have the latest poll taken by the company find out now two weeks ago.
Should Scotland be an independent country? (Find Out Now / Independent Voices, 5th-12th September 2023)
Yes 49.4%
No 46.2%
A rough recalculation suggests that if Don't Knows are stripped out, and if rounding to the nearest whole number is done, the result is -
Yes 52%
No 48%
thats 52 % of scots polled wil lvote for indy tomorrow despite the side issues like brexit or the monarchy or any other fantasy you care to conjure up. We also know a further 20 % of scots arent opposed to independence in principle , those who largely support devo max , voted yes in 1997 .
Ive never met a single scot who is either supportive of scottish indy , or against it based on a single issue like brexit , or because of a single politician or political party. desperate stuff darling , but what does one expect from you and your delusions of silent majorities and simplistic fixes .
Wow! Tough crowd. All I know is that it says that the increase in support is due to Brexit. You're shit out of luck if you don't like that, Toejam. where does it say that? 52 % in the latest poll want indy tomorrow irrelevant of brexit or rejoin. im sorry you cant accept a majority of scots dont care about englands brexit , but there you go darling. I told you before , we dont exist to prop up your internal fights with the tories in england.
...but hey , at least you got ben e to turn coat.
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Post by Vinny on Sept 23, 2023 20:08:20 GMT
My point is proven over and over again.
Our sales to the EU are worth more (taking inflation into account) than when we were members.
Our sales to the rest of the world are worth more (taking inflation into account) than when we were in the EU.
Brexit is a success.
EU membership was a failure.
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 20:08:34 GMT
Wow! Tough crowd. All I know is that it says that the increase in support is due to Brexit. You're shit out of luck if you don't like that, Toejam. where does it say that? 52 % in the latest poll want indy tomorrow irrelevant of brexit or rejoin. im sorry you cant accept a majority of scots dont care about englands brexit , but there you go darling. I told you before , we dont exist to prop up your internal fights with the tories in england.
...but hey , at least you got ben e to turn coat.
Lol!!!! A poll!!! A poll!!! You spend the afternoon saying polls don't count and now you base your position on one. Have more than 90 consecutive polls told you, that, Toejam?  Is anyone keeping count of the number of u-turns Toejam can do in a single day? |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 20:09:53 GMT
im asking you to back up darlings claim , and your implication that somehow scot indy is largely all about brexit , and rejoining is going to stop scot indy in its tracks. Humza yousaf and sturgeon seem to have done a better job so far than any politician in london .
no i dont. i repetedly point out scotland is a pro european country , and most of our political parties favour rejoin or at least EFTA , but on a personal level , the eu , like the morachy and much else is a side issue.sorry if i cant get myself worked up in a passion for you ben e about the eu and rejoin , but it just isnt that important to me personally.
ive championed brexit in terms of supporting democracy for years such is my small regard for eu membership .
i know you have turncoat , but i keep telling you ben e little people always manage to have little fixes for all the big and complicated problems in the world today.
If you think the world is 6000 years old , or snakes talk , or keir starmer is going to fix all the ills of bwitian by rejoining the EU , who am i to shatter your wee dreams?
To think that snat central chose you to troll the Sassanachs. You must be a great disappointment to them 😁 Eh? thats your ego now talking ben e. are you telling the forum you think im in an underground snp bunker in cyberworld with the job of dealing with that highly important english turncoat ben e?
you are mental ben e. I will leave your fate to your former mates in england .
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 20:10:41 GMT
To think that snat central chose you to troll the Sassanachs. You must be a great disappointment to them 😁 Eh? thats your ego now talking ben e. are you telling the forum you think im in an underground snp bunker in cyberworld with the job of dealing with that highly important english turncoat ben e?
you are mental ben e. I will leave your fate to your former mates in england .
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 20:14:55 GMT
i dont think scot indy is going to take lesson in independence from the likes of you and your pro european mates who want to stab your fellow englishmen in the back. The brave irish heroes got up off their arse and did something , rahter than sitting whining about democracy not being fair .
the man who earlier told me he couldnt be bothered backing up his latest drivel on this forum demanding we do something? self awareness isnt your strong point dyno is it ?
i suppose being beaten five nil by your fellow english at election times sort of sends you over the edge .
I couldn't care less, Toejam. When are you guys going to do something more than just talk. Not saying you should use violence or anything, just something to wipe a little of the chicken shit away will be fine. so after claiming rejoin is going to solve all your northern ills , we are back to you saying you dont care and flouncing off in a pout?
its a debating forum dyno. Thats what we do...... talk .
what should we do in your highly sought opinion dyno ? Go into a big anglo remoaner sulk , cry salty tears and pray for silent majorities that never appear?
whisper rebellion down hastings pubs with the brothers and sisters ?
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Post by Bentley on Sept 23, 2023 20:14:56 GMT
To think that snat central chose you to troll the Sassanachs. You must be a great disappointment to them 😁 Eh? thats your ego now talking ben e. are you telling the forum you think im in an underground snp bunker in cyberworld with the job of dealing with that highly important english turncoat ben e?
you are mental ben e. I will leave your fate to your former mates in england .
No. It think that you think you are . Lol I think that you are in the upstairs bedroom of your parents house with a Scottish flag design on your duvet. I’m not a turncoat toomy . Im quite happy with Brexit . I’m just telling you what is likely to happen . Don’t shoot the messenger. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 23, 2023 20:15:31 GMT
To think that snat central chose you to troll the Sassanachs. You must be a great disappointment to them 😁 Eh? thats your ego now talking ben e. are you telling the forum you think im in an underground snp bunker in cyberworld with the job of dealing with that highly important english turncoat ben e?
you are mental ben e. I will leave your fate to your former mates in england .
Wait until the latest EU laws bite and being an associate member brings all the nightmares we tried to escape, you know who they are going to blame don't you? that's right the Scottish Nationalists. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 20:16:22 GMT
I couldn't care less, Toejam. When are you guys going to do something more than just talk. Not saying you should use violence or anything, just something to wipe a little of the chicken shit away will be fine. so after claiming rejoin is going to solve all your northern ills , we are back to you saying you dont care and flouncing off in a pout?
its a debating forum dyno. Thats what we do...... talk .
what should we do in your highly sought opinion dyno ? Go into a big anglo remoaner sulk , cry salty tears and pray for silent majorities that never appear?
whisper rebellion down hastings pubs with the brothers and sisters ?
So, when are you and your mates at Chicken Wings over Scotland going to do something? I wasn't joking when I asked if the Irish sent you that white feather. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 20:16:45 GMT
Eh? thats your ego now talking ben e. are you telling the forum you think im in an underground snp bunker in cyberworld with the job of dealing with that highly important english turncoat ben e?
you are mental ben e. I will leave your fate to your former mates in england .
You'll be arguing the exact opposite in 10 minutes what ? that im not in a bunker by the banks of lock lomond? i tell you darling , things are getting desperate in la la land. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 23, 2023 20:17:17 GMT
Eh? thats your ego now talking ben e. are you telling the forum you think im in an underground snp bunker in cyberworld with the job of dealing with that highly important english turncoat ben e?
you are mental ben e. I will leave your fate to your former mates in england .
Wait until the latest EU laws bite and being an associate member brings all the nightmares we tried to escape, you know who they are going to blame don't you? that's right the Scottish Nationalists. They will welcome the attention. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 23, 2023 20:18:08 GMT
You'll be arguing the exact opposite in 10 minutes what ? that im not in a bunker by the banks of lock lomond? i tell you darling , things are getting desperate in la la land. Tee hee! Toejam spends the early afternoon rubbishing 90 consecutive polls, then spends the evening relying on a couple of polls to support his position. |
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Post by thomas on Sept 23, 2023 20:20:10 GMT
Eh? thats your ego now talking ben e. are you telling the forum you think im in an underground snp bunker in cyberworld with the job of dealing with that highly important english turncoat ben e?
you are mental ben e. I will leave your fate to your former mates in england .
Wait until the latest EU laws bite and being an associate member brings all the nightmares we tried to escape, you know who they are going to blame don't you? that's right the Scottish Nationalists. hope so sheepy. meanwhile darling will be crying about all the poor imagrunts in the channel , while ben e switches sides depending on who he thinks is going to win at the next election. |
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