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Post by Steve on Sept 16, 2023 9:57:53 GMT
YouGov .... rigged
In June 2022, former employee Chris Curtis, who at this time worked for competitor Opinium, said that during the 2017 United Kingdom general election, a YouGov poll was suppressed by the company because it was "too positive about Labour", under pressure from the Conservative co-founder of YouGov Nadhim Zahawi. YouGov denied that the poll was spiked for political reasons, instead arguing that the poll was based on a "skewed sample". Former YouGov president Peter Kellner confirmed last-minute small methodology changes which transferred 2% from Labour to Conservative and increased the predicted Conservative lead from 3% to 7%. A day later, Curtis withdrew his allegations, saying that he now accepted "YouGov's position that in fact the results were pulled because of concerns other members of the team had about the methodology", and that he had not intended to allege that Nadhim Zahawi had had any bearing on the decision, and apologised for any confusion caused by his previous statements
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Did you actually read that? It seems to be saying the opposite to you? 🤷🏻 He'll call you a plant pot for pointing out that bleeding obvious point |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 16, 2023 10:13:46 GMT
YouGov .... rigged
In June 2022, former employee Chris Curtis, who at this time worked for competitor Opinium, said that during the 2017 United Kingdom general election, a YouGov poll was suppressed by the company because it was "too positive about Labour", under pressure from the Conservative co-founder of YouGov Nadhim Zahawi. YouGov denied that the poll was spiked for political reasons, instead arguing that the poll was based on a "skewed sample". Former YouGov president Peter Kellner confirmed last-minute small methodology changes which transferred 2% from Labour to Conservative and increased the predicted Conservative lead from 3% to 7%. A day later, Curtis withdrew his allegations, saying that he now accepted "YouGov's position that in fact the results were pulled because of concerns other members of the team had about the methodology", and that he had not intended to allege that Nadhim Zahawi had had any bearing on the decision, and apologised for any confusion caused by his previous statements
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Did you actually read that? It seems to be saying the opposite to you? 🤷🏻 I read it clearly, but only wanted to point out the part that struck me the most ....."a YouGov poll was suppressed by the company because it was "too positive about Labour" ... Zahawi being involved says it all. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 16, 2023 10:19:41 GMT
Here's all you need to know about YouGov (the name suggests it's run by the government) it isn't it's pay for market research.
I’m sharing my honest YouGov surveys review to explain how this cool survey site can earn you money.
Since getting started with YouGov a few years ago I’ve earned over £400.
I wanted to be able to tell you exactly how long it can take to cash out and give a thorough overview of how it all works.
YouGov
YouGov is a market research and polling company. You can create a profile with YouGov as long as you live in the UK and are over 16.
YouGov does have a presence in other countries including:
Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Italy, Malaysia, Mexico, Middle East, Norway, Pakistan, Philippines, Poland, Singapore, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, US, Vietnam.
It is a market research who 'pays' and I bet they are 'set up' people who are actually connect to YouGov, paying themselves to survey .... LOL
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Post by Steve on Sept 16, 2023 10:23:13 GMT
All the polling companies are research for money operations. Surely no one thinks they're some sort of charity.
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Post by Steve on Sept 16, 2023 10:25:40 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 16, 2023 10:26:50 GMT
All the polling companies are research for money operations. Surely no one thinks they're some sort of charity. The fact they use 'Gov' in their name is very misleading, it has nothing to do with the government, and in fact the government should make them remove 'Gov', as it suggests the government have endorsed this market research company, when in fact it is independent from the government, as a market research company. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 11:41:58 GMT
Polling companies are all very aware of been at odds with trends - trends meaning what other polls are showing. My advice is - never read too much into one single poll, but instead look for the trend, and the trend is rarely ever wrong. A poll which shows something a lot different to recent other polls, can either be the begining of a widening / narrowing of voting intention, or something called an "outliner", usually meaning there is some kind of calculation error. A really good and fairly reliable way of looking at polls is to view a Poll Tracker such as for example Electoral Calculous. LINK: www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.htmlBUt best not look if you are a Tory supporter, it may make you suicidal |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 16, 2023 13:46:45 GMT
Polling companies are all very aware of been at odds with trends - trends meaning what other polls are showing. My advice is - never read too much into one single poll, but instead look for the trend, and the trend is rarely ever wrong. A poll which shows something a lot different to recent other polls, can either be the begining of a widening / narrowing of voting intention, or something called an "outliner", usually meaning there is some kind of calculation error. A really good and fairly reliable way of looking at polls is to view a Poll Tracker such as for example Electoral Calculous. LINK: www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.htmlBUt best not look if you are a Tory supporter, it may make you suicidal Why would tory supporters feel suicidal when starmer makes sure that labour are a lying shower of shit and unelectable when ever he gets the opportunity? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2023 15:02:45 GMT
Polling companies are all very aware of been at odds with trends - trends meaning what other polls are showing. My advice is - never read too much into one single poll, but instead look for the trend, and the trend is rarely ever wrong. A poll which shows something a lot different to recent other polls, can either be the begining of a widening / narrowing of voting intention, or something called an "outliner", usually meaning there is some kind of calculation error. A really good and fairly reliable way of looking at polls is to view a Poll Tracker such as for example Electoral Calculous. LINK: www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.htmlBUt best not look if you are a Tory supporter, it may make you suicidal Why would tory supporters feel suicidal when starmer makes sure that labour are a lying shower of shit and unelectable when ever he gets the opportunity? I shall tell you why Jonksy, because according to the Poll Tracker ( the poll of polls ) the Tories are on course towards a spectacular defeat, with Labour predicted to win a Parliamentary majority similar to that of 1997 when they won their biggest ever majority in history. And according to YouGov the gap has got wider I will grant you however that there is anything up to perhaps 14 months to go, but its not looking good is it for Rishi. ? |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 16, 2023 15:22:07 GMT
Why would tory supporters feel suicidal when starmer makes sure that labour are a lying shower of shit and unelectable when ever he gets the opportunity? I shall tell you why Jonksy, because according to the Poll Tracker ( the poll of polls ) the Tories are on course towards a spectacular defeat, with Labour predicted to win a Parliamentary majority similar to that of 1997 when they won their biggest ever majority in history. And according to YouGov the gap has got wider I will grant you however that there is anything up to perhaps 14 months to go, but its not looking good is it for Rishi. ? I hope labour does get in. There are a great number of people who were not around or old enough to remembr the last time they infested No10. and what a total shower of incompetent shit they were. They will soon realise their mistake in voting labour and labour will yet again be cast into the wilderness or even better disapear alltogether. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 16, 2023 17:43:20 GMT
Why would tory supporters feel suicidal when starmer makes sure that labour are a lying shower of shit and unelectable when ever he gets the opportunity? I shall tell you why Jonksy, because according to the Poll Tracker ( the poll of polls ) the Tories are on course towards a spectacular defeat, with Labour predicted to win a Parliamentary majority similar to that of 1997 when they won their biggest ever majority in history. And according to YouGov the gap has got wider I will grant you however that there is anything up to perhaps 14 months to go, but its not looking good is it for Rishi. ? Talking of polls SF....
Tories and Labour neck and neck in battle for Nadine Dorries seat, poll shows
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Labour and the Conservatives are neck and neck in the byelection battle for Nadine Dorries’ old constituency of Mid Bedfordshire, new polling has revealed.
The Survation survey offers evidence that a split in the “progressive” vote could allow Rishi Sunak’s party to hold onto the seat despite wider unpopularity.
Campaigners are pushing Labour and the Liberal Democrats to form an unofficial electoral pact so only one of the big parties pushes to take the blue wall stronghold.
The new poll for Labour Together – which puts Labour and the Tories on 29 per cent – will add to pressure on Ed Davey to accept that Keir Starmer’s party has the best chance of overturing a 24,000 Tory majority.
The Lib Dems are languishing in third place on 22 per cent in the contest, set to take place on 19 October. Reform UK is on 7 per cent, while independent candidate Gareth Mackey has 6 per cent.
The Survation found poll also found that large proportion – 27 per cent – of people in the seat who are planning to vote remain undecided, with Labour activists pouncing upon the results to encourage Lib Dem supporters to switch to Sir Keir’s party.
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Post by Steve on Sept 16, 2023 22:43:48 GMT
For the Tories to even come close to losing that seat would just confirm they are in deep trouble and Starmer is getting it right. In 2019 the Tories won it with nearly 3 times the votes Labour got.
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Post by sheepy on Sept 17, 2023 5:53:52 GMT
For the Tories to even come close to losing that seat would just confirm they are in deep trouble and Starmer is getting it right. In 2019 the Tories won it with nearly 3 times the votes Labour got. Tosh, it is just Westminster politics catching up with them all, except this time, they won't have enough people conned it is for their own good. Or their vote actually means a thing. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 17, 2023 8:00:51 GMT
I shall tell you why Jonksy, Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â because according to the Poll Tracker ( the poll of polls ) the Tories are on course towards a spectacular defeat, with Labour predicted to win a Parliamentary majority similar to that of 1997 when they won their biggest ever majority in history. And according to YouGov the gap has got wider I will grant you however that there is anything up to perhaps 14 months to go, but its not looking good is it for Rishi. ? I hope labour does get in. There are a great number of people who were not around or old enough to remembr the last time they infested No10. and what a total shower of incompetent shit they were. They will soon realise their mistake in voting labour and labour will yet again be cast into the wilderness or even better disapear alltogether. It seems that every generation has to learn the lesson of voting Labour. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 17, 2023 9:57:14 GMT
I hope labour does get in. There are a great number of people who were not around or old enough to remembr the last time they infested No10. and what a total shower of incompetent shit they were. They will soon realise their mistake in voting labour and labour will yet again be cast into the wilderness or even better disapear alltogether. It seems that every generation has to learn the lesson of voting Labour. That it does mate. And then they live to regret their choice. |
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