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Post by johnofgwent on Sept 6, 2023 12:07:42 GMT
I don't think so, she left school with more kids than O levels and her only recent achievement was to spend 12 hours drinking vodka with children in a foreign night spot. To be a grandmother at 29 might be considered an achievement by some, but it is stretching things a bit to claim that she is much respected. The foul mouthed trollop. 37 actually. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42078457how nice for her. The average (and i mean the mathematical mode not the mean or median, but the age most commonly seen) age for grandparenthood was, when i was born back in the fifties, about 45-50. Apart from a brief stint where under Labour single mum pregnancy guaranteed you a house so 30 year old grannies suddenly became a thing (yes, i mean what i said) the average age has rather rocketed of late certainly amount the white population as only a certain ethnic and religious group seem able to ‘afford’ kids In 1986 i was shocked to find Moira categorised as being ‘at particular risk’ by antenatal for leaving it until her 27th year to get pregnant for the first time. I asked what the reason for this was, and was told there was an increased risk of toxaemia caused by BP problems in first time mothers over 23 and indeed this was the case. Moira had to be induced when things started to go a bit turbo when Sarah was two and a half weeks overdue. I also asked what the average age of new mums was. I expected to be told about 20. It was rather a shock to be told deadpan by Moira’s midwife that some in the ward this month were barely 15 It also amused me looking back, Sarah’s Health Visitor after she had Melissa recruited her to go around the groups she held. One in particular was girls younger than Sarah. Most of the questions were obvious to do with feeding, weaning and progress in learning etc as in ‘when do they do such and such’ One delightful not yet legally of the age to get knocked up utter chav looked sarah straight in the face and asked ‘how long before the bump shrinks and i can go back clubbing’ To which Sarah said deadpan ‘your clubbing days are over, girl’
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 6, 2023 12:20:44 GMT
I don't think so, she left school with more kids than O levels and her only recent achievement was to spend 12 hours drinking vodka with children in a foreign night spot. To be a grandmother at 29 might be considered an achievement by some, but it is stretching things a bit to claim that she is much respected. The foul mouthed trollop...... LOL
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Post by jonksy on Sept 6, 2023 13:36:52 GMT
I don't think so, she left school with more kids than O levels and her only recent achievement was to spend 12 hours drinking vodka with children in a foreign night spot. To be a grandmother at 29 might be considered an achievement by some, but it is stretching things a bit to claim that she is much respected. The foul mouthed trollop...... LOL I tell you what mate, I and the other half are seriously considering Utah. I never thought in a thousand years that I would even contemplate leaving this once great country of ours. I can only imagine Rayner on the world stage. I wonder if she thinks a ginger growler will get her some kind of deal from the globe?
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 6, 2023 14:00:45 GMT
I tell you what mate, I and the other half are seriously considering Utah. I never thought in a thousand years that I would even contemplate leaving this once great country of ours. I can only imagine Rayner on the world stage. I wonder if she thinks a ginger growler will get her some kind of deal from the globe? I've heard loads of people say the same thing, what people don't realize they wont be getting Starmer they will be getting Rayner as Prime Minister.
She hasn't got a hope in hell's chance of winning a General Election herself, so the patsy Starmer is just a figure head, then if they win the GE he wont last the year, he'll be kicked out with a coup like Johnson and Truss, then they'll install their far left Union mouth piece... Rayner.
It's game over for the UK, the lefty mob will destroy this country, while their salaries, perks, expenses, fat pension pots are as safe as houses.
Me and my other half might be joining you Jonks, well we've done our best to warn everyone, it's up to them if they listen.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 6, 2023 14:10:11 GMT
I tell you what mate, I and the other half are seriously considering Utah. I never thought in a thousand years that I would even contemplate leaving this once great country of ours. I can only imagine Rayner on the world stage. I wonder if she thinks a ginger growler will get her some kind of deal from the globe? I've heard loads of people say the same thing, what people don't realize they wont be getting Starmer they will be getting Rayner as Prime Minister.
She hasn't got a hope in hell's chance of winning a General Election herself, so the patsy Starmer is just a figure head, then if they win the GE he wont last the year, he'll be kicked out with a coup like Johnson and Truss, then they'll install their far left Union mouth piece... Rayner.
It's game over for the UK, the lefty mob will destroy this country, while their salaries, perks, expenses, fat pension pots are as safe as houses.
Me and my other half might be joining you Jonks, well we've done our best to warn everyone, it's up to them if they listen.
Like you stated previously mate Be afraid be very afraid.
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Post by see2 on Sept 6, 2023 14:13:51 GMT
God help us if that shower gets in...If this is his "top team" now, which are good for a laugh, Smarmer is going to do a re-shuffle, which usually means, same fools doing a different job, "this should be hilarious"
Angela Rayner is shifted to Levelling Up brief - with shadow deputy PM title - while Lisa Nandy is demoted as Keir Starmer reshuffles his top team TODAY
Smarmer is reshuffling his top team today with Angela Rayner shifted to the Levelling Up brief - and officially made shadow deputy PM.
Deputy leader Ms Rayner looks to be the big winner from the shake-up so far, despite an at-times tense relationship with Sir Keir.
She has agreed to be removed from her Cabinet Office beat, where she has been directly shadowing deputy PM Oliver Dowden.
Lisa Nandy has been effectively demoted from Levelling Up to shadow international development secretary - a post that has no equivalent in government.
Jonathan Ashworth also seems to have suffered a setback, being moved from work and pensions to shadow paymaster general - although sources stressed he is still a full shadow cabinet member and will 'play a big role in the general election campaign'.
Crucially Ms Rayner has also formally been named shadow deputy PM, suggesting she will get the title should Labour win power.
Although Ms Rayner cannot be removed as deputy leader - having been directly elected by the party - allies have been warning against any bid to sideline her.
Meanwhile, Steve Reed has been shifted from Justice to replace shadow environment secretary Jim McMahon, who is standing down for personal reasons.
That makes space for rising star Shabana Mahmood to be elevated from campaigns coordinator. Liz Kendall has also been pushed up to the top rank as shadow work and pensions secretary.
He didn't help us when the last shower got in.
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Post by see2 on Sept 6, 2023 14:18:33 GMT
Lisa Nandy has been effectively demoted from Levelling Up to shadow international development secretary - a post that has no equivalent in government.
I believe the plan is to have a separate International development department when Labour get into power - which it was until 2020 when it was merged with the Foreign Office. You can guarantee that there are going to be more Public Sector jobs created by Labour - they have to protect their core vote after all. Says Mr. (ever one sided) Cynical.
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Post by see2 on Sept 6, 2023 14:22:51 GMT
Proof that the picture is not a spoof made up by some sicko Righty. Please.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 6, 2023 14:27:30 GMT
Proof that the picture is not a spoof made up by some sicko Righty. Please. PMSL .. proof it's made up...
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Post by see2 on Sept 6, 2023 14:45:59 GMT
Proof that the picture is not a spoof made up by some sicko Righty. Please. PMSL .. proof it's made up... Your post gave me a chuckle, I imagined you standing in a puddle of unnecessary piss LOL
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Post by see2 on Sept 6, 2023 14:49:19 GMT
It's interesting that Shabana Mahmood has been made Shadow Justice Minister - she was one of the Labour MP's who campaigned to stop a plane full of Jamaican criminals from being sent back to the Caribbean. And then some of those she 'saved' went on to Murder and Rape in this country.. Welcome to Justice Labour style... Having NO EVIDENCE of your accusation or the surrounding picture, I take it that it is just you being cynical AGAIN.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 6, 2023 17:36:20 GMT
I believe the plan is to have a separate International development department when Labour get into power - which it was until 2020 when it was merged with the Foreign Office. You can guarantee that there are going to be more Public Sector jobs created by Labour - they have to protect their core vote after all. Says Mr. (ever one sided) Cynical. It's called experience..
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 6, 2023 17:37:55 GMT
It's interesting that Shabana Mahmood has been made Shadow Justice Minister - she was one of the Labour MP's who campaigned to stop a plane full of Jamaican criminals from being sent back to the Caribbean. And then some of those she 'saved' went on to Murder and Rape in this country.. Welcome to Justice Labour style... Having NO EVIDENCE of your accusation or the surrounding picture, I take it that it is just you being cynical AGAIN. What evidence are you looking for? - its a fact that several Labour MP's campaigned against deporting Jamaican criminals and its a fact that some of those criminals went on to commit further offences..
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Post by see2 on Sept 8, 2023 13:07:24 GMT
Says Mr. (ever one sided) Cynical. It's called experience.. Nope, its called being the victim of fixed opinions.
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Post by see2 on Sept 8, 2023 13:10:04 GMT
Having NO EVIDENCE of your accusation or the surrounding picture, I take it that it is just you being cynical AGAIN. What evidence are you looking for? - its a fact that several Labour MP's campaigned against deporting Jamaican criminals and its a fact that some of those criminals went on to commit further offences.. So you say, you also refer to "Labour justice", not to the opinions of a few Labour members.
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