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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 10, 2023 15:40:24 GMT
The UK is in fact still in. Of over 4000 EU laws on the UK statute books, 600 have been changed. The Brexit government says they arent going to consider anymore. The UK has decided to comply with EU quality standards in manufactured goods. If the UK wants to sell to the EU it has to comply with rules of origin. With EU veterinary checks on exporting animals. Wirh EU rules on ID if you enter the area. The agreements on fishing have not excluded EU vessels from UK waters. Farmers are still waiting for EU subsidy replacements three years on. You have to fill out reams of paparwork after being told there would be less. It is impossible not to comply with the person you trade with. You will be the loser. You may as well rejoin since leaving hasnt changed much of anything. Don't be so epically stupid. To say the UK is still in the EU is utter nonsense, it's delusional. If the government decide not to change some laws imposed when we were governed by the unelected EU, it's because they 'choose' to. It is the governments decision not the EU's decision. And the reason the government can pick and choose which laws to keep and which laws to scrap is because on 1 Feb 2020 the UK regained it's sovereignty and was no longer governed by an unelected cabal of bureaucrats who govern from behind closed doors in, of all places, Belgium. Those are the facts, please feel free to prevaricate. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 10, 2023 15:58:43 GMT
On the run already then. firstly you made out you were holding a piece of paper with some kind of undeniable evidence, which of course was a complete scam, then when I pointed out it was debatable that we had ever left anyway you denied it, then when somebody pointed it out you said it was because we were lucky being spoilt. What a lot of bollox. You're adorable, Sheeps. Some might say that, some might not, but you get a fair assessment, I still couldn't careless for some poll, which I know can easily be turned on its head whenever it is needed. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 10, 2023 16:35:19 GMT
It would certainly involve joining Schengen and the Euro. And no more cut price membership. If it were possible to have a sensible discussion on here I would say that instead of repeating the leave debacle we would need to discuss the terms of re-joining before putting that agreement to the public. It’s not a debacle. The UK has left and is looking to a future outside of the EU but with a cordial relationship with it . Not only would the terms of rejoining have to be advantageous to the UK but the terms would have to be guaranteed by the EU before the referendum. Come out from under your rock. Its been a travesty. No one even thought to discuss the Good Friday Agreement before we left. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 10, 2023 16:42:30 GMT
It’s not a debacle. The UK has left and is looking to a future outside of the EU but with a cordial relationship with it . Not only would the terms of rejoining have to be advantageous to the UK but the terms would have to be guaranteed by the EU before the referendum. Come out from under your rock. Its been a travesty. No one even thought to discuss the Good Friday Agreement before we left. Maybe take off your tin foil hat ( if you insist on using insulting idioms). NI work in progress. No one is dying,people are getting by. Just more doom mongering from the poor loser brigade. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 10, 2023 16:44:43 GMT
Still waiting for the harvest crisis due to the lack of East Europeans and the country coming to a halt because we don’t have enough migrants to drive lorries .
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Post by sheepy on Sept 10, 2023 17:20:25 GMT
The UK is in fact still in. Of over 4000 EU laws on the UK statute books, 600 have been changed. The Brexit government says they arent going to consider anymore. The UK has decided to comply with EU quality standards in manufactured goods. If the UK wants to sell to the EU it has to comply with rules of origin. With EU veterinary checks on exporting animals. Wirh EU rules on ID if you enter the area. The agreements on fishing have not excluded EU vessels from UK waters. Farmers are still waiting for EU subsidy replacements three years on. You have to fill out reams of paparwork after being told there would be less. It is impossible not to comply with the person you trade with. You will be the loser. You may as well rejoin since leaving hasnt changed much of anything. Don't be so epically stupid. To say the UK is still in the EU is utter nonsense, it's delusional. If the government decide not to change some laws imposed when we were governed by the unelected EU, it's because they 'choose' to. It is the governments decision not the EU's decision. And the reason the government can pick and choose which laws to keep and which laws to scrap is because on 1 Feb 2020 the UK regained it's sovereignty and was no longer governed by an unelected cabal of bureaucrats who govern from behind closed doors in, of all places, Belgium. Those are the facts, please feel free to prevaricate. I am not so sure after recent events the gospel according to Boris is actually the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 10, 2023 17:57:29 GMT
Come out from under your rock. Its been a travesty. No one even thought to discuss the Good Friday Agreement before we left. Maybe take off your tin foil hat ( if you insist on using insulting idioms). NI work in progress. No one is dying,people are getting by. Just more doom mongering from the poor loser brigade. Apologies. You got under y skin for a moment. Yes its a work in progress. That was never considered before asking the public to vote on leaving. A debacle. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 10, 2023 17:58:34 GMT
Still waiting for the harvest crisis due to the lack of East Europeans and the country coming to a halt because we don’t have enough migrants to drive lorries . Still looking at the ploughed up orchards all around me because no one would pick the fruit for a price it could be sold for. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 10, 2023 18:35:49 GMT
Maybe take off your tin foil hat ( if you insist on using insulting idioms). NI work in progress. No one is dying,people are getting by. Just more doom mongering from the poor loser brigade. Apologies. You got under y skin for a moment. Yes its a work in progress. That was never considered before asking the public to vote on leaving. A debacle. Which takes us back to my first point “The public would want to know the exact terms of re joining before committing themselves . Unless the re joiners could do that then they would be just as hypocritical and misleading as they claim the leavers were .” |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 10, 2023 18:39:13 GMT
Still waiting for the harvest crisis due to the lack of East Europeans and the country coming to a halt because we don’t have enough migrants to drive lorries . Still looking at the ploughed up orchards all around me because no one would pick the fruit for a price it could be sold for. You must be unlucky . I have an orchard yards from my house . No problems there. What next?Is there a lorry parked up in your street because of the lack of migrants to drive it ? Maybe a leaky tap because of a lack of polish plumbers ? |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 10, 2023 20:08:23 GMT
Still waiting for the harvest crisis due to the lack of East Europeans and the country coming to a halt because we don’t have enough migrants to drive lorries . Don't forget supressed wages. We'll have no more wage rises thank you very much, there's nothing better than a surplus of cheap labour for the remainer middle-class. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 10, 2023 20:11:09 GMT
Still waiting for the harvest crisis due to the lack of East Europeans and the country coming to a halt because we don’t have enough migrants to drive lorries . Don't forget supressed wages. We'll have no more wage rises thank you very much, there's nothing better than a surplus of cheap labour for the remainer middle-class. Indeed. The remainer solution to an understaffed NHS is to ship in boatloads of migrants . With a bit of luck enough of them will be nurses. |
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 10, 2023 20:35:47 GMT
Don't forget supressed wages. We'll have no more wage rises thank you very much, there's nothing better than a surplus of cheap labour for the remainer middle-class. Indeed. The remainer solution to an understaffed NHS is to ship in boatloads of migrants . With a bit of luck enough of them will be nurses. Well they used to be until you told them they werent welcome. As for those vaulting wages due to lack of employees...along with the nurses strike you have jr doctors AND consultants on strike due to understaffing etc and the government still wont negotiate. Do hospitals have to close for those wages to go up? Just more lies. More kool aid. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 10, 2023 20:43:54 GMT
Indeed. The remainer solution to an understaffed NHS is to ship in boatloads of migrants . With a bit of luck enough of them will be nurses. Well they used to be until you told them they werent welcome. As for those vaulting wages due to lack of employees...along with the nurses strike you have jr doctors AND consultants on strike due to understaffing etc and the government still wont negotiate. Do hospitals have to close for those wages to go up? Just more lies. More kool aid. Lol. So you are one of those remainers who believe the answer to an understaffed NHS is to ship in a load of migrants . And you accuse me of drinking the kool aid ? Remainers like you make the case for Brexit . |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 10, 2023 21:04:33 GMT
Person living in France advocates poverty wages in the UK... Thats it - I'm convinced Brexit was a bad idea..  |
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