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Post by sheepy on Sept 10, 2023 11:23:20 GMT
I guess you will telling that to all those who have an abusive partner then! Just go home, the abuse is fine, you will get over it. The UK was given special concessions by the EU (opt-outs). This is why the press has sometimes referred to the UK as the 'spoilt brat of Europe'. Abused victim or spoilt brat? Depends on your politics, I suppose. Very big of them I am sure. Sort of a Chinese burn rather than straight for the throat.
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 10, 2023 11:26:53 GMT
The UK was given special concessions by the EU (opt-outs). This is why the press has sometimes referred to the UK as the 'spoilt brat of Europe'. Abused victim or spoilt brat? Depends on your politics, I suppose. Very big of them I am sure. Sort of a Chinese burn rather than straight for the throat. I enjoy your cryptic responses, Sheeps. I think it's a good thing that only you understand what you mean. Let's buck the trend, though - how's about you explain your above comment? I'll accept English or a good faith attempt at English. Please don't respond in your normal incomprehensible way.
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Post by sheepy on Sept 10, 2023 11:33:02 GMT
Very big of them I am sure. Sort of a Chinese burn rather than straight for the throat. I enjoy your cryptic responses, Sheeps. I think it's a good thing that only you understand what you mean. Let's buck the trend, though - how's about you explain your above comment? I'll accept English or a good faith attempt at English. Please don't respond in your normal incomprehensible way. On the run already then. firstly you made out you were holding a piece of paper with some kind of undeniable evidence, which of course was a complete scam, then when I pointed out it was debatable that we had ever left anyway you denied it, then when somebody pointed it out you said it was because we were lucky being spoilt. What a lot of bollox.
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 10, 2023 11:45:20 GMT
I enjoy your cryptic responses, Sheeps. I think it's a good thing that only you understand what you mean. Let's buck the trend, though - how's about you explain your above comment? I'll accept English or a good faith attempt at English. Please don't respond in your normal incomprehensible way. On the run already then. firstly you made out you were holding a piece of paper with some kind of undeniable evidence, which of course was a complete scam, then when I pointed out it was debatable that we had ever left anyway you denied it, then when somebody pointed it out you said it was because we were lucky being spoilt. What a lot of bollox. You're adorable, Sheeps.
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Post by zanygame on Sept 10, 2023 13:35:06 GMT
I see polls as masses. I see the results as mass opinion. People can be individuals and still share views, as they did when thy voted leave. Your allusion to Communism is a classic Rebirth tactic and I wont pursue it as its a banal insult. Thankfully you're irrelevant. It's just a shame that you're unable to understand even the basics. Thankfully I don't value your opinion.
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Post by zanygame on Sept 10, 2023 13:42:46 GMT
This could solve it for you all anyway. “On the one hand, people in the EU bubble would be content with the idea of a redemption story, with the UK having left the EU, realising it didn’t work out and rejoining,” he says. “But in practical terms I can’t imagine key EU decision makers would want the UK to rejoin the EU before there was a substantial lasting change in British public opinion. You don’t want to start rejoining negotiations and then have a new government end them. There would have to be cross-party consensus.” The current 65% approval for rejoining wouldn’t be enough.
www.theneweuropean.co.uk/would-europe-want-us-back-dave-keating/
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2023 13:50:30 GMT
Thankfully you're irrelevant. It's just a shame that you're unable to understand even the basics. Thankfully I don't value your opinion. Of course you don't, and I wouldn't even pretend to care either way. It's like talking to a child.
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Post by Bentley on Sept 10, 2023 13:51:12 GMT
This could solve it for you all anyway. “On the one hand, people in the EU bubble would be content with the idea of a redemption story, with the UK having left the EU, realising it didn’t work out and rejoining,” he says. “But in practical terms I can’t imagine key EU decision makers would want the UK to rejoin the EU before there was a substantial lasting change in British public opinion. You don’t want to start rejoining negotiations and then have a new government end them. There would have to be cross-party consensus.” The current 65% approval for rejoining wouldn’t be enough.
www.theneweuropean.co.uk/would-europe-want-us-back-dave-keating/
That’s part of the problem . The public would want to know the exact terms of re joining before committing themselves . Unless the re joiners could do that then they would be just as hypocritical and misleading as they claim the leavers were . The point posted assumes that the post Brexit UK has failed and will continue to fail. The truth is that we need a few years more to find out .
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Post by zanygame on Sept 10, 2023 14:09:47 GMT
Thankfully I don't value your opinion. Of course you don't, and I wouldn't even pretend to care either way. It's like talking to a child. Yes it is. Calling anyone who disagrees with you a communist shows a very childish understanding of what communism is.
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Post by zanygame on Sept 10, 2023 14:13:47 GMT
This could solve it for you all anyway. “On the one hand, people in the EU bubble would be content with the idea of a redemption story, with the UK having left the EU, realising it didn’t work out and rejoining,” he says. “But in practical terms I can’t imagine key EU decision makers would want the UK to rejoin the EU before there was a substantial lasting change in British public opinion. You don’t want to start rejoining negotiations and then have a new government end them. There would have to be cross-party consensus.” The current 65% approval for rejoining wouldn’t be enough.
www.theneweuropean.co.uk/would-europe-want-us-back-dave-keating/
That’s part of the problem . The public would want to know the exact terms of re joining before committing themselves . Unless the re joiners could do that then they would be just as hypocritical and misleading as they claim the leavers were . The point posted assumes that the post Brexit UK has failed and will continue to fail. The truth is that we need a few years more to find out . It would certainly involve joining Schengen and the Euro. And no more cut price membership. If it were possible to have a sensible discussion on here I would say that instead of repeating the leave debacle we would need to discuss the terms of re-joining before putting that agreement to the public.
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Post by Bentley on Sept 10, 2023 14:20:47 GMT
That’s part of the problem . The public would want to know the exact terms of re joining before committing themselves . Unless the re joiners could do that then they would be just as hypocritical and misleading as they claim the leavers were . The point posted assumes that the post Brexit UK has failed and will continue to fail. The truth is that we need a few years more to find out . It would certainly involve joining Schengen and the Euro. And no more cut price membership. If it were possible to have a sensible discussion on here I would say that instead of repeating the leave debacle we would need to discuss the terms of re-joining before putting that agreement to the public. It’s not a debacle. The UK has left and is looking to a future outside of the EU but with a cordial relationship with it . Not only would the terms of rejoining have to be advantageous to the UK but the terms would have to be guaranteed by the EU before the referendum.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2023 14:28:58 GMT
Of course you don't, and I wouldn't even pretend to care either way. It's like talking to a child. Yes it is. Calling anyone who disagrees with you a communist shows a very childish understanding of what communism is. Perhaps it is. The fact that I have never done this only leaves me to conclude that you're now telling lies. Like I said, it's like talking to a child, and all because I disagreed with you. I have no idea how you can convince others with this level of immaturity.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2023 14:55:54 GMT
I guess you will telling that to all those who have an abusive partner then! Just go home, the abuse is fine, you will get over it. The UK was given special concessions by the EU (opt-outs). This is why the press has sometimes referred to the UK as the 'spoilt brat of Europe'. Abused victim or spoilt brat? Depends on your politics, I suppose. 52% said Abused victim.
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 10, 2023 15:05:35 GMT
The UK was given special concessions by the EU (opt-outs). This is why the press has sometimes referred to the UK as the 'spoilt brat of Europe'. Abused victim or spoilt brat? Depends on your politics, I suppose. 52% said Abused victim. 62% now say that was a lie.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2023 15:13:15 GMT
The UK was given special concessions by the EU (opt-outs). This is why the press has sometimes referred to the UK as the 'spoilt brat of Europe'. Abused victim or spoilt brat? Depends on your politics, I suppose. 52% said Abused victim. I have the EU on ignore. Im now considering an injunction.
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