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Post by zanygame on Sept 9, 2023 10:56:48 GMT
5 Minutes? Its been 7 years. Anyway your argument is that it was grossly unfair to keep the UK in the EU for so long against the will of the people. Now you are saying it is fair to keep us out of the EU for 40 years against the will of the people. Shame on you. Stop lying to yourself then you wouldn't have to lie to everyone else. Lying about what? |
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 9, 2023 10:59:59 GMT
No shame on me. You've had your own way for long enough and it didn't work. You don't like it, tough. My way? I didn't get a vote on joining the EU either, nor any say in how it developed. Stop trying to make it partisan and listen to what the public say they want. Yes, your way. You want in the EU. We've tried that. We voted for something different. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 9, 2023 11:11:10 GMT
My way? I didn't get a vote on joining the EU either, nor any say in how it developed. Stop trying to make it partisan and listen to what the public say they want. Yes, your way. You want in the EU. We've tried that. We voted for something different. But it wasn't my way was it. I had no say in it. We voted for something different 7 years ago and now we want to vote for something different again. Perhaps we should have general elections every 40 years? Of course, only once you get the result you want. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 9, 2023 11:28:16 GMT
LOL - some outfit has done a poll. That is not the voice of the people....  Come back when you have some real meat on the bones.. 62%. Consistent polls for 6 years saying the same thing. 80 plus polls saying the same thing. Put your money where your mouth is, call for a referendum. No my problem - you want a referendum then start doing some hard work.. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2023 12:00:27 GMT
LOL - some outfit has done a poll. That is not the voice of the people.... Come back when you have some real meat on the bones.. 62%. Consistent polls for 6 years saying the same thing. 80 plus polls saying the same thing. Put your money where your mouth is, call for a referendum. No need. Just vote LIB DEM at the next election and we'll be back in quicker than you can say "four freedoms". |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2023 12:07:37 GMT
62%. Consistent polls for 6 years saying the same thing. 80 plus polls saying the same thing. Put your money where your mouth is, call for a referendum. No need. Just vote LIB DEM at the next election and we'll be back in quicker than you can say "four freedoms". That's their problem, nobody is voting for pro-EUphile parties. It's more likely the openly lying Labour party will do it without democracy if people are dumb enough to elect them. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 9, 2023 12:13:29 GMT
62%. Consistent polls for 6 years saying the same thing. 80 plus polls saying the same thing. Put your money where your mouth is, call for a referendum. No my problem - you want a referendum then start doing some hard work.. What did you do to get the last one? |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 9, 2023 12:15:07 GMT
No need. Just vote LIB DEM at the next election and we'll be back in quicker than you can say "four freedoms". That's their problem, nobody is voting for pro-EUphile parties. It's more likely the openly lying Labour party will do it without democracy if people are dumb enough to elect them. That's the problem. You get all there policies alongside the re-joining. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 9, 2023 14:14:27 GMT
No need. Just vote LIB DEM at the next election and we'll be back in quicker than you can say "four freedoms". That's their problem, nobody is voting for pro-EUphile parties. It's more likely the openly lying Labour party will do it without democracy if people are dumb enough to elect them. Nobody's voting for pro-EU parties?  In 2019, 52% voted for pro-EU parties, while only 43% voted for pro-Brexit parties. The FPTP system has created the illusion of continued mass support for Brexit, which the polls dispel on an almost weekly basis. Nobody's voting for pro-EU parties!!! Get a grip!! www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-result-boris-johnson-pro-brexit-referendum-voters-conservatives-a9245866.htmlElection result: 52% of votes go to pro-referendum parties despite decisive victory for the Tories
More than half of voters backed pro-referendum parties at the polls despite Boris Johnson’s decisive general election victory.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 9, 2023 17:16:58 GMT
No my problem - you want a referendum then start doing some hard work.. What did you do to get the last one? Voted for the Political Party promising to leave the EU - what are you doing? |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 9, 2023 17:18:53 GMT
That's their problem, nobody is voting for pro-EUphile parties. It's more likely the openly lying Labour party will do it without democracy if people are dumb enough to elect them. Nobody's voting for pro-EU parties? In 2019, 52% voted for pro-EU parties, while only 43% voted for pro-Brexit parties. The FPTP system has created the illusion of continued mass support for Brexit, which the polls dispel on an almost weekly basis. Nobody's voting for pro-EU parties!!! Get a grip!! www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-result-boris-johnson-pro-brexit-referendum-voters-conservatives-a9245866.htmlElection result: 52% of votes go to pro-referendum parties despite decisive victory for the Tories
More than half of voters backed pro-referendum parties at the polls despite Boris Johnson’s decisive general election victory.
It was FPTP that took us into the EU in the first place - it's a bit late to start whinging about how unfair it is.. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 9, 2023 17:45:05 GMT
Nobody's voting for pro-EU parties? In 2019, 52% voted for pro-EU parties, while only 43% voted for pro-Brexit parties. The FPTP system has created the illusion of continued mass support for Brexit, which the polls dispel on an almost weekly basis. Nobody's voting for pro-EU parties!!! Get a grip!! www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-result-boris-johnson-pro-brexit-referendum-voters-conservatives-a9245866.htmlElection result: 52% of votes go to pro-referendum parties despite decisive victory for the Tories
More than half of voters backed pro-referendum parties at the polls despite Boris Johnson’s decisive general election victory.
It was FPTP that took us into the EU in the first place - it's a bit late to start whinging about how unfair it is.. We're making some progress at last, Doc. It looks like you're beginning to understand that Brexit isn't the will of the people anymore. You appear to have moved from 'Brexit is democracy' to 'Brexit isn't democracy, but we had to live with the will of the people being ignored for more than 20 years, so now it's your turn'. That's fine. Let's see how it works out for you. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 9, 2023 18:36:05 GMT
It was FPTP that took us into the EU in the first place - it's a bit late to start whinging about how unfair it is.. We're making some progress at last, Doc. It looks like you're beginning to understand that Brexit isn't the will of the people anymore. You appear to have moved from 'Brexit is democracy' to 'Brexit isn't democracy, but we had to live with the will of the people being ignored for more than 20 years, so now it's your turn'. That's fine. Let's see how it works out for you. What use is that? the stay away party has a much bigger majority. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 9, 2023 21:09:17 GMT
It was FPTP that took us into the EU in the first place - it's a bit late to start whinging about how unfair it is.. We're making some progress at last, Doc. It looks like you're beginning to understand that Brexit isn't the will of the people anymore. You appear to have moved from 'Brexit is democracy' to 'Brexit isn't democracy, but we had to live with the will of the people being ignored for more than 20 years, so now it's your turn'. That's fine. Let's see how it works out for you. The democratic system we have is the democratic system we have. FFS, if you cant do anything better but claim that under a different system a majority would vote to rejoin the EU you should give up now sunshine.. |
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Post by Einhorn on Sept 9, 2023 21:23:59 GMT
We're making some progress at last, Doc. It looks like you're beginning to understand that Brexit isn't the will of the people anymore. You appear to have moved from 'Brexit is democracy' to 'Brexit isn't democracy, but we had to live with the will of the people being ignored for more than 20 years, so now it's your turn'. That's fine. Let's see how it works out for you. The democratic system we have is the democratic system we have. FFS, if you cant do anything better but claim that under a different system a majority would vote to rejoin the EU you should give up now sunlight.. Right, but a majority is in favour of rejoining. A majority voted for pro-referendum parties in 2019 and a majority wishes to rejoin now. |
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