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Post by patman post on Sept 1, 2023 10:26:03 GMT
It will not be moved to another location The policing minister has suggested that the Notting Hill Carnival should be moved to another location if it was recommended by the Metropolitan Police.in other words passing the buck I don't want to be accused of being a Racist. Met Police Commissioner says not his call same reason. Its actually Mayor Khans responsibility , anyone hazard a guess of what he would say ? bearing in mind he's up for election next year Didn't Ken Livingstone once try muscling in with a complementary event to Carnival in Hyde Park — and wasn't he voted out after...? |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 1, 2023 10:47:15 GMT
If it happened in 2017 what has that to do with this weeks carnival? If its a competition then what about the Harrow and Wealdstone rail crash in 1952 that killed 112? Unlike the litter from this year's Carnival, the shrouded remains of Grenfell Tower remain and are in the same London borough and are still there. Well thats because the various interested parties are still arguing the toss over what to do with it. Still fail to see what that has to do with the annual orgy of violence. |
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Post by Steve on Sept 1, 2023 10:57:17 GMT
Quite. It was stupid whataboutery by PP trying to equate recklessness with deliberately inflicted injury (some with intent to kill)
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Post by patman post on Sept 1, 2023 11:20:06 GMT
Quite. It was stupid whataboutery by PP trying to equate recklessness with deliberately inflicted injury (some with intent to kill) So deliberately choosing a cheaper option of non-fireproof cladding was not deliberate, but reckless? Had that been done commercially, and not by a Tory council, company personnel would have would up in court — just as those arrested at Carnival are likely to, and they will be dealt with more quickly than the Grenfell perpetrators... |
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Post by Orac on Sept 1, 2023 11:27:43 GMT
If you have the world's poor funneled into your city centres for political reasons, it's likely corners will be cut.
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Post by Handyman on Sept 1, 2023 11:57:40 GMT
It will not be moved to another location The policing minister has suggested that the Notting Hill Carnival should be moved to another location if it was recommended by the Metropolitan Police.in other words passing the buck I don't want to be accused of being a Racist. Met Police Commissioner says not his call same reason. Its actually Mayor Khans responsibility , anyone hazard a guess of what he would say ? bearing in mind he's up for election next year Didn't Ken Livingstone once try muscling in with a complementary event to Carnival in Hyde Park — and wasn't he voted out after...? Can't say I recall it, I took no notice of that Commie Twat |
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Post by om15 on Sept 1, 2023 12:22:50 GMT
One idea might be to encourage the cheery fun loving new British to celebrate their lively culture back in the Caribbean, they could then attack each other with gusto, set the place on fire and behave like primitive savages without any interference by the Metropolitan Police (such as it is).
One thing does occur to me, do those countries in the Caribbean encourage Morris dancing and skittle events to celebrate the culture of South West England, I though not.
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 1, 2023 12:43:46 GMT
One idea might be to encourage the cheery fun loving new British to celebrate their lively culture back in the Caribbean, they could then attack each other with gusto, set the place on fire and behave like primitive savages without any interference by the Metropolitan Police (such as it is). One thing does occur to me, do those countries in the Caribbean encourage Morris dancing and skittle events to celebrate the culture of South West England, I though not. To even suggest that traditional English pastimes like Morris dancing and skittles should be encouraged in the Caribbean would render outraged lefties numb with virtuous rage. They would say it was rubbing colonialism in their poor exploited faces and demand the guilty were thrashed, while on bended knee, obviously. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 1, 2023 16:56:08 GMT
Quite. It was stupid whataboutery by PP trying to equate recklessness with deliberately inflicted injury (some with intent to kill) So deliberately choosing a cheaper option of non-fireproof cladding was not deliberate, but reckless? Had that been done commercially, and not by a Tory council, company personnel would have would up in court — just as those arrested at Carnival are likely to, and they will be dealt with more quickly than the Grenfell perpetrators... It was not done by a Tory Council - the decision was taken by the Residents Association (KCTMO). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2023 18:36:52 GMT
So deliberately choosing a cheaper option of non-fireproof cladding was not deliberate, but reckless? Had that been done commercially, and not by a Tory council, company personnel would have would up in court — just as those arrested at Carnival are likely to, and they will be dealt with more quickly than the Grenfell perpetrators... It was not done by a Tory Council - the decision was taken by the Residents Association (KCTMO). It's thread hijacking by a black member of the forum to detract from the atrocious behaviour of other mainly black people at the Carnival, isn't it? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 1, 2023 20:01:39 GMT
I listened to a cab driver earlier, he was interviewed on GB News. He was a Londoner and had been a cabbie for years. He was asked what he thought about the carnival and his response was not what I expected. He said the carnival weekend is brilliant, he loved it. He said it was a real family day out. He then said, but as soon as it gets dark the idiots come out, that's when the crime & robbery starts which is why shops and houses are boarded up.
There you have two very different sides of the same coin. My opinion hasn't changed, it should be banned. I know it wont be.
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Post by Handyman on Sept 3, 2023 8:29:09 GMT
I listened to a cab driver earlier, he was interviewed on GB News. He was a Londoner and had been a cabbie for years. He was asked what he thought about the carnival and his response was not what I expected. He said the carnival weekend is brilliant, he loved it. He said it was a real family day out. He then said, but as soon as it gets dark the idiots come out, that's when the crime & robbery starts which is why shops and houses are boarded up. There you have two very different sides of the same coin. My opinion hasn't changed, it should be banned. I know it wont be. Every year its costs the London Taxpayers a fortune even on the children's day it is not free of some violence arrests were made for possession of weapons, etc Police Officers were injured, thousands of them are drafted in from the London Boroughs to Police it leaving skeleton crews in the Boroughs , they don't want to be there they know what is likely to happen, all leave is cancelled. The same thing has happened year after year it is time to stop it or move it , if they stop it or move that may well cause a violent backlash and accusations of racism as per usual , how many more murders and serious injuries does it take for the Government to do something. Armed Officers had to be sent into the crowd this year, , Officers working on the Carnival perimeter responded quickly to information suggesting a group was in possession of a firearm, the group were intercepted, a firearm seized and a man arrested in connection with it I dread to think what may happen if a serious incident happens in another part of London for example a terrorist attack and Officers at the Carnival are taken away from the Carnival to deal with it |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 7, 2023 13:23:57 GMT
A meeting to discuss the future of Notting Hill Carnival descended into chaos as angry residents voiced safety concerns for their children but united against suggestions it should be moved to a different location.
Notting Hill Carnival organisers Carnival Village Trust on Wednesday held a post-event residents meeting to discuss the future of the festival, which saw multiple arrests, non-fatal stabbings, and attacks on police officers including one female PC who was sexually assaulted, this year.
Attendees criticised the meeting, held at The Tabernacle in Notting Hill, as a “tick box exercise”, presided over by “condescending” representatives, according to a report by MailOnline.
They raised concerns about “another Grenfell” as housing associations complained they had been locked in during the course of the carnival.
The meeting also heard from the mother of a stabbing victim, while another woman said she was scared for her 13-year-old daughter’s well-being, urging officials to “work with us” to safeguard the community during the carnival.
However, the suggestion that Notting Hill Carnival be moved to a different location, such as nearby Hyde Park, was met with a 40-second-long chorus of boos and “No!” and “Never!” as the chief of the Carnival Village Trust Matthew Phillip tried to control the crowd.
As expected
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Post by dappy on Sept 7, 2023 15:06:56 GMT
What the fact that even the residents do not want to see it moved?
Surely it can't be right that housing association tenants are locked in their flats during carnival?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2023 16:35:36 GMT
I listened to a cab driver earlier, he was interviewed on GB News. He was a Londoner and had been a cabbie for years. He was asked what he thought about the carnival and his response was not what I expected. He said the carnival weekend is brilliant, he loved it. He said it was a real family day out. He then said, but as soon as it gets dark the idiots come out, that's when the crime & robbery starts which is why shops and houses are boarded up. There you have two very different sides of the same coin. My opinion hasn't changed, it should be banned. I know it wont be. The Woke virtue signalling alone outweighs everything else, so I can't see it even being officially questioned.
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