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Post by Steve on Aug 29, 2023 15:47:52 GMT
Fuck apologies, will correct
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Post by jonksy on Aug 29, 2023 15:49:37 GMT
Fuck apologies, will correct I bet those words tasted like vinegar. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 29, 2023 15:50:03 GMT
Understood. No need to correct anything. We all goof up in this forum
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 29, 2023 17:00:09 GMT
I see it was the usual celebration of Caribbean culture...   |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 29, 2023 17:16:19 GMT
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Post by om15 on Aug 29, 2023 17:28:27 GMT
If the Metropolitan Police had started off years ago when this multi cultural nightmare started by wading in and cracking a few heads there might have been a chance of maintaining control, but they didn't, they painted their faces in homo hues and danced about with the murdering rioters, so no sympathy if they now get bitten.
Perhaps they might go in with dogs, horses, water cannon and truncheons next year and actually do what they are paid to do, instead of trying to encourage the mobs.
I wonder what a Policeman tastes of?
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Post by om15 on Aug 29, 2023 17:35:14 GMT
No I didn't.
Banks will "de-bank" people who don't align with their values, proven fact, it appears that their values include letting the New British run amuck without comment and not raising eyebrows at school children being sexually interfered with at places like the Tavistock Hospital.
I think that you need to become more aware of current affairs before you accuse people of posting false stories, or is it simply rejecting anything that is critical of your support for the New British?
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Post by Steve on Aug 29, 2023 18:26:13 GMT
No I didn't. Banks will "de-bank" people who don't align with their values, proven fact, it appears that their values include letting the New British run amuck without comment and not raising eyebrows at school children being sexually interfered with at places like the Tavistock Hospital. I think that you need to become more aware of current affairs before you accuse people of posting false stories, or is it simply rejecting anything that is critical of your support for the New British? Ignored, take you mistaken ideas to the correct thread ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/3217/establishment-close-farages-bank-accounts |
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Post by Handyman on Aug 30, 2023 7:14:49 GMT
I guess it isn't a fun day out for all the family then? I suppose that depends what you mean by a fun day out. Clearly people who are boarding up their homes or forced to leave the area for the weekend aren't looking forward to it. Notting Hill council forced to defend Carnival scheme where elderly locals are shipped out during the weekend - link If this carnival was not billed as a "celebration of Caribbean culture" * do you think the council would allow this level of noise and disruption to the point where residents are forced to board up their homes? Or would the council ban such anti social behaviour? It's a poser innit... *What is Caribbean culture? Jerk chicken a 'Jamaican Woodbine' and a stabbing perhaps? If you think what goes on at the Notting Hill Carnival is bad and not acceptable to many people IMO what happens in Jamaica is far more dangerous and unacceptable , last year the Jamaican Government once again had to declare a State of Emergency due to the escalating violence from Gangs over the Drugs Trade, they even had to ban broadcasts from the Gangs , that operate from Jamaica in America across the Caribbean here in the UK and elsewhere. Our Police the majority of which are unarmed as pointed out by the Police Federation hate going to Carnival they know that they are at great risk as are up close and among the crowd some of which are very hostile towards the Police and other gang members, the Police are outnumbered , even the children's day is dangerous to Police, Monday is even worse. If you look on YouTube enough clips to show you what takes place in Jamacia , Police up against Semi Automatic Weapons their Police are heavily armed because they have to be shoot outs are common |
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Post by Orac on Aug 30, 2023 8:47:46 GMT
The political gaslighting on this is pretty intense.
The figure of two million 'participants' is (of course) an estimate and I'd say the estimate defies common sense.
It turns out the crime figures are manipulated down - only crimes that happen exactly on the route are counted as tied to the event.
Comparisons are regularly made using the 'number of arrests' which is an irrelevant statistic - comparing machete attacks to drunk and disorderly
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Post by jonksy on Aug 30, 2023 13:20:28 GMT
Calls to move Notting Hill Carnival to a park after 'unsustainable' violence saw eight stabbings - the most since 2016 - as well as sexual offences and assaults on police Met Police said it made 308 arrests across Sunday and Monday Shocking photos show men wielding machetes in broad daylight on Monday Stabbings have reach the highest levels since 2016 as event's future is called into question over 'unsustainable' violence after eight knife attacks, sexual offences and assaults on police. The Metropolitan Police said it made 308 arrests across Sunday and Monday and more than 50 officers were assaulted by being kicked, punched, spat on, bitten, head-butted and even urinated on from upper floor windows. A 29-year-old man is in a critical condition after being stabbed and another 19-year-old victim is in a 'serious but stable condition'. Six other men, aged 18, 19, 20, 25, 28 and 40, were also stabbed over the weekend - they sustained non life-threatening injuries. Both a Met Police union boss and the Conservative Party's London mayoral candidate Susan Hall have called for the Notting Hill Carnival to be moved elsewhere. 'You can't have it that every single year come Tuesday morning we're contemplating these types of injuries, this numbers of injuries and sexual assaults and stabbings. It really is awful,' Rick Prior, vice chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, told The Daily Telegraph. With arrests at the carnival are up by a third on last year, Mr Prior says the level of violence is 'unsustainable'. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12460261/Notting-Hill-carnival-violence-Met-Police-officers.html |
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Post by Steve on Aug 31, 2023 9:26:29 GMT
When a major football match is on the clubs have to pay for the extra policing and/or provide sufficient stewarding at their expense. Do the Notting Hill organisers do anything like such? I'm betting not.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 31, 2023 9:33:42 GMT
Yes they do have Stewards at the Carnival they have to apply via the local Council, if paid or not no idea I would certainly not do it
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Post by Steve on Aug 31, 2023 10:19:51 GMT
Yes they do have Stewards at the Carnival they have to apply via the local Council, if paid or not no idea I would certainly not do it Nor I and there clearly weren't enough. I suspect the organisers believe their obligations are limit to stopping people falling under the processions and not dealing with the worst of the (supposed) 2 million it attracts until they've gone home. I wonder who licences this 'carnival' and what criteria they use (or rather don't) |
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Post by Handyman on Aug 31, 2023 10:38:02 GMT
It is organised by the Notting Hill Trust Ltd registered with Companies House, which is registered in Westbourne Gove , I am not certain but it will probably be allowed to take place by the Local Council
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