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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2023 13:57:06 GMT
My 6 year old healthy grandson was made to have the jab by his father, despite having actually had Covid months earlier. Some people were taken in by the jab sales people saying their jab was better than natural immunity after infection. I thought it was outrageous in the extreme.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 24, 2023 14:01:28 GMT
There is one common denominator that stands out by these young vaccine deaths, almost every single one describes the victim as previously being 'fit and healthy'. They young people who are victims of the vaccine it never says they already had underlining health issues, or they had COVID, they almost always say 'previously fit and healthy', so why the hell did they have the jab in the first place? They may have had it out of a sense of social responsibility as the jab sales people said it would stop their granny getting it, whilst the jab neither prevented infection or transmission. Despite the fact Pfizer had earlier said that theirs did. Evidence suggests that the jab may have reduced the effects of the virus, however there was a constant watering down of scariant variants as time progressed. Absolutely, they put people on guilt trips, you must have the jab otherwise you are a very bad person, everyone will point the finger at you, and if people die because you didn't get the vaccine then it's .... Your fault they died, not COVID fault .... yours.
They emotionally blackmailed fit and healthy young people in to having the jab out of a sense of duty, most people I know including myself the jab made no difference what so ever, I caught COVID 'after' the jab, people who I know caught COVID after the jab, ... to be honest I know people who point blank refused to have it, and they appear to be the healthiest of us all, just relying on their own natural immune system to kick in for them.
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Post by see2 on Aug 24, 2023 16:06:18 GMT
Personal opinions as apposed 228,622 deaths down to Covid. As they privy to the advice of ‘ experts’ at the time , their opinions would have reflected the advice of the experts , so not ‘ personal’ opinions so much as informed opinions . Every covid rule , every piece of advice , every decision to heed that advice would have been subject to opinion . You like to use the word ‘ opinion’ as a rebuttal in the same way as the uninformed use the word’ theory ‘. based upon personal experiences. I for one have never had Covid. I could easily have said its not a problem and enjoyed a party or two. BUT 1. that would have ignored the deaths that were taking place from Covid. 2. It would have ignored the uncertainty at the time of just how bad Covid could get AND NO ONE KNEW HOW BAD IT COULD GET AT THE TIME. Making assumptions over who knew what at that time is simply just that, an assumption. as·sump·tion [əˈsʌm(p)ʃ(ə)n] NOUN a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof: |
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Post by see2 on Aug 24, 2023 16:11:28 GMT
Personal opinions as apposed 228,622 deaths down to Covid. Yeah, well, maybe. Covid seems to have killed or been involved in the deaths of less than 1 in a thousand people in the world. The pandemic in 1920 killed 7 times more people of a population that was about a quarter of what it is now. Therefore it was about 28 times more lethal and mostly killed young people, not the old. 1920 was a really nasty pandemic. Covid was not, hence partygate and MPs with Covid on trains, exceptions for government and essential workers kids to go to school. Oh, and the use of psy-ops to tell us how deadly it all was and frighten us to stay indoors. Hindsight is so reassuring. No one knew just how devastating the Covid pandemic would turn out to be, all people had to go on was the devastating affects of previous pandemics. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 24, 2023 16:23:58 GMT
Yeah, well, maybe. Covid seems to have killed or been involved in the deaths of less than 1 in a thousand people in the world. The pandemic in 1920 killed 7 times more people of a population that was about a quarter of what it is now. Therefore it was about 28 times more lethal and mostly killed young people, not the old. 1920 was a really nasty pandemic. Covid was not, hence partygate and MPs with Covid on trains, exceptions for government and essential workers kids to go to school. Oh, and the use of psy-ops to tell us how deadly it all was and frighten us to stay indoors. Hindsight is so reassuring. No one knew just how devastating the Covid pandemic would turn out to be, all people had to go on was the devastating affects of previous pandemics. NO ...Wrong.... all we had to go on was what we were brainwashed in to believing, out of a matter of interest, how many dead COVID bodies did you walk over in the streets, how many of your family members died due to COVID, how many people do you personally know who 'OFFICIALLY' death certificate died of COVID?
...Or did we just all fall in to the ....... 'War of the worlds syndrome' ?
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Post by see2 on Aug 24, 2023 16:25:59 GMT
The moment this sort of information is exaggerated or misrepresented it becomes a conspiracy theory. Nothing wrong with the actual information and concern shown by the BMJ. You seem to have a poor grasp on what a conspiracy theory is A conspiracy theory is not false or misleading information. We already have a traditional word for that category - it's called 'wrong' A conspiracy theory is a significant world view which has as its central premise a conspiracy. A conspiracy is a belief that some secret but influential organization is responsible for an event or phenomenon. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 24, 2023 16:30:19 GMT
As they privy to the advice of ‘ experts’ at the time , their opinions would have reflected the advice of the experts , so not ‘ personal’ opinions so much as informed opinions . Every covid rule , every piece of advice , every decision to heed that advice would have been subject to opinion . You like to use the word ‘ opinion’ as a rebuttal in the same way as the uninformed use the word’ theory ‘. based upon personal experiences. I for one have never had Covid. I could easily have said its not a problem and enjoyed a party or two. BUT 1. that would have ignored the deaths that were taking place from Covid. 2. It would have ignored the uncertainty at the time of just how bad Covid could get AND NO ONE KNEW HOW BAD IT COULD GET AT THE TIME. Making assumptions over who knew what at that time is simply just that, an assumption. as·sump·tion [əˈsʌm(p)ʃ(ə)n] NOUN a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof: Nope. They had access to the opinions of covid experts and concluded that the disease was not enough of a threat to themselves so that they had to follow the instructions that they themselves compelled others to follow. It was all in the post that you replied to but you decided to ignore this and misrepresent the post you replied to . You regularly try to use ‘ opinions’ to refute a point . You rarely succeed. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 24, 2023 16:33:02 GMT
You seem to have a poor grasp on what a conspiracy theory is A conspiracy theory is not false or misleading information. We already have a traditional word for that category - it's called 'wrong' A conspiracy theory is a significant world view which has as its central premise a conspiracy. A conspiracy is a belief that some secret but influential organization is responsible for an event or phenomenon. Nope. That’s more of a conspiracy THEORY . As Peter Hitchens once pointed out “ of course there are political conspiracies. It’s called lunch.”. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 24, 2023 16:33:16 GMT
You seem to have a poor grasp on what a conspiracy theory is A conspiracy theory is not false or misleading information. We already have a traditional word for that category - it's called 'wrong' A conspiracy theory is a significant world view which has as its central premise a conspiracy. A conspiracy is a belief that some secret but influential organization is responsible for an event or phenomenon. and then a conspiracy theory
a significant world view or set of opinions requiring the assumption of some sizeable conspiracy
? that's my stab anyway |
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Post by see2 on Aug 24, 2023 16:36:00 GMT
Hindsight is so reassuring. No one knew just how devastating the Covid pandemic would turn out to be, all people had to go on was the devastating affects of previous pandemics. NO ...Wrong.... all we had to go on was what we were brainwashed in to believing, out of a matter of interest, how many dead COVID bodies did you walk over in the streets, how many of your family members died due to COVID, how many people do you personally know who 'OFFICIALLY' death certificate died of COVID?
...Or did we just all fall in to the ....... 'War of the worlds syndrome' ?
YOU are so wrong, what we had to go on was the deaths down to Covid 19, the actual cause of deaths being increasingly demonstrated as Covid deaths. As I posted, hindsight is so reassuring. And all you have is hindsight. So please, I am not influenced by your fixed opinions on how things work, so don't waste my time on your conspiracy theories. |
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Post by see2 on Aug 24, 2023 16:42:21 GMT
Yes personal opinions based upon personal experiences. I for one have never had Covid. I could easily have said its not a problem and enjoyed a party or two. BUT 1. that would have ignored the deaths that were taking place from Covid. 2. It would have ignored the uncertainty at the time of just how bad Covid could get AND NO ONE KNEW HOW BAD IT COULD GET AT THE TIME. Making assumptions over who knew what at that time is simply just that, an assumption. as·sump·tion [əˈsʌm(p)ʃ(ə)n] NOUN a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof: Nope. They had access to the opinions of covid experts and concluded that the disease was not enough of a threat to themselves so that they had to follow the instructions that they themselves compelled others to follow. It was all in the post that you replied to but you decided to ignore this and misrepresent the post you replied to . You regularly try to use ‘ opinions’ to refute a point . You rarely succeed. "they concluded that the disease was not enough of a threat to themselves so that they had to follow the instructions that they themselves compelled others to follow". Is that what they actually said, or is that just the assumptions made by people like yourself? Or are you just taking the piss? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 24, 2023 16:46:21 GMT
Hindsight is so reassuring. No one knew just how devastating the Covid pandemic would turn out to be, all people had to go on was the devastating affects of previous pandemics. NO ...Wrong.... all we had to go on was what we were brainwashed in to believing, out of a matter of interest, how many dead COVID bodies did you walk over in the streets, how many of your family members died due to COVID, how many people do you personally know who 'OFFICIALLY' death certificate died of COVID?
...Or did we just all fall in to the ....... 'War of the worlds syndrome' ?
NO ...Wrong.... all we had to go on was what we were brainwashed in to believing, out of a matter of interest, how many dead COVID bodies did you walk over in the streets, how many of your family members died due to COVID, how many people do you personally know who 'OFFICIALLY' death certificate died of COVID?
...Or did we just all fall in to the ....... 'War of the worlds syndrome' ?
YOU are so wrong, what we had to go on was the deaths down to Covid 19, the actual cause of deaths being increasingly demonstrated as Covid deaths. As I posted, hindsight is so reassuring. And all you have is hindsight. So please, I am not influenced by your fixed opinions on how things work, so don't waste my time on your conspiracy theories. You still haven't answered my questions? |
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Post by see2 on Aug 24, 2023 16:49:48 GMT
A conspiracy is a belief that some secret but influential organization is responsible for an event or phenomenon. Nope. That’s more of a conspiracy THEORY . As Peter Hitchens once pointed out “ of course there are political conspiracies. It’s called lunch.”. Nope, its the English Language. I think Hitchens got it slightly wrong, his comment would have made sense if he had indicated that there are political conspirators at wok during lunch. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 24, 2023 16:51:06 GMT
Nope. That’s more of a conspiracy THEORY . As Peter Hitchens once pointed out “ of course there are political conspiracies. It’s called lunch.”. Nope, its the English Language. I think Hitchens got it slightly wrong, his comment would have made sense if he had indicated that there are political conspirators at wok during lunch. Did you chow mein to say that? |
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Post by see2 on Aug 24, 2023 16:59:00 GMT
NO ...Wrong.... all we had to go on was what we were brainwashed in to believing, out of a matter of interest, how many dead COVID bodies did you walk over in the streets, how many of your family members died due to COVID, how many people do you personally know who 'OFFICIALLY' death certificate died of COVID?
...Or did we just all fall in to the ....... 'War of the worlds syndrome' ?
YOU are so wrong, what we had to go on was the deaths down to Covid 19, the actual cause of deaths being increasingly demonstrated as Covid deaths. As I posted, hindsight is so reassuring. And all you have is hindsight. So please, I am not influenced by your fixed opinions on how things work, so don't waste my time on your conspiracy theories. You still haven't answered my questions? I posted "the actual cause of deaths being increasingly demonstrated as Covid deaths." Answer your questions? of course not, because they are silly irrelevant questions contrived by yourself and designed to deviate from the actuality of which few people fully understand. |
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