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Post by Pacifico on Aug 19, 2023 21:56:12 GMT
Voluntary or not, they are still part of another powers sphere of influence. The United States' sphere of influence includes most of Latin America as well as its tributary and vassal states that form NATO. China's sphere of influence includes several neighbouring states and, increasingly, client-states in Africa. Russia's includes the territories of the FSU and the former Warsaw Pact, although everybody is in denial about the latter. Even the EU could be said to have its own sphere of influence which includes the Balkans and former Francophone colonies in Africa and elsewhere.
Here, have a read, it's not something I just made up
I know you didn't make it up - it is an idea as old as colonialism. But those days are over - the countries in the East of Europe are Sovereign States who make their own decisions - the idea that they have to prostrate themselves before Russia died in 1989/90. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 19, 2023 21:57:47 GMT
No country is forced to be part of any of those institutions - membership is voluntary. They are certainly not forced into them by foreign nations who dont have their interests in mind. In one reply you have completely changed your question to which I replied. You asked if it were possible for one country to overcome another. No I did not. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Sept 4, 2023 6:57:52 GMT
What do you believe the role of a 'realistic' EDF ought to be? I've asked the question several times but nobody seems to want to take a stab at it. Why not have a go? well if the french are in it, it’s job will be to threaten to invade us. Fact is the EU have been mouthing off about an ‘EU Army’ for as ling as i can remember but i’m not even sure the 20 odd separate states even use the same size bullets… |
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Post by johnofgwent on Sept 4, 2023 7:05:43 GMT
Why do you imagine the Russians would want to invade Sweden and Finland? A relatively undefended way into Europe. Since April though it would start WW3. Finland, even more than Norway, would have been the path of choice for a madman to start rebuilding the glorious soviet socialist republic. Having stood there personally i can attest to the area near the border being pretty much bugger all except forest and near - tundra. Finland in particular had nothing marking chunks of its border with Russia save Russian conscripts wandering in the woods the Russian side of the border happy to use Finns who wander near it while berry picking for target practice |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 4, 2023 7:13:33 GMT
The Yanks are already in WW3 it is just a matter of talking everyone else into it, without realising there is nothing in it for them anyway.
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Post by oracle75 on Sept 4, 2023 7:55:13 GMT
What do you believe the role of a 'realistic' EDF ought to be? I've asked the question several times but nobody seems to want to take a stab at it. Why not have a go? well if the french are in it, it’s job will be to threaten to invade us. Fact is the EU have been mouthing off about an ‘EU Army’ for as ling as i can remember but i’m not even sure the 20 odd separate states even use the same size bullets… And that is why the EU have been thinking zbout coordinating national military forces. In addition the cost of modern hardware such as aircraft carriers and submarines is high so pooling resources seems logical. There are arguments for and against. There is no sense of needing to hurry to make a decision. |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 4, 2023 8:30:25 GMT
The Yanks are already in WW3 it is just a matter of talking everyone else into it, without realising there is nothing in it for them anyway. You win the "Ridiculous post of the year" award. Quite plainly not true. The Yanks are merely helping an invaded victim of unwarranted aggression. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2023 12:27:52 GMT
The Yanks are already in WW3 it is just a matter of talking everyone else into it, without realising there is nothing in it for them anyway. You win the "Ridiculous post of the year" award. Quite plainly not true.The Yanks are merely helping an invaded victim of unwarranted aggression. You might think so, but as we say, follow the money. The USA will want some value for their 42.8 billion dollars. Other countries only put half of that in, between them. Thinking that the USA is the world's friendly policeman is a nice idea, but that is all it is. |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 4, 2023 12:52:18 GMT
They're getting value for what they've spent.
Russia's military is already ruined.
When this is over, Putin's regime will crumble.
Someone else will get in and they'll try to do business.
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Post by sheepy on Sept 4, 2023 13:45:15 GMT
The Yanks are already in WW3 it is just a matter of talking everyone else into it, without realising there is nothing in it for them anyway. You win the "Ridiculous post of the year" award. Quite plainly not true. The Yanks are merely helping an invaded victim of unwarranted aggression. You think? compared with say a punter with a war obsession telling us we must win a war we were never in. |
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Post by Vinny on Sept 4, 2023 15:03:09 GMT
A war obsession you say?
So siding with the victim of an illegal invasion and opposing the people who started the fucking war is a war obsession is it?
Don't make such fucking daft comments.
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