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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 11, 2023 20:55:01 GMT
The Immigration Law Practitioners Association (IPLA), a registered charity which represents the 4,000 or so solicitors, barristers and others who make their living representing foreigners who run foul of the immigration regulations in one way or another, has issued an eight-page statement on 'On the Safety and Protection of Immigration Practitioners'.
Evidently a climate of hostility towards lawyers practising immigration law has arisen. This hostile climate has, per the ILPA, without doubt been fuelled by increased vilification and attacks on the legitimacy of immigration practitioners’ work from senior politicians and certain sectors of the media. Such unwarranted and inappropriate demonisation of and targeted attacks against lawyers practising immigration law by senior Government figures and their party have sanctioned and encouraged reporting by the media that is both irresponsible and dangerous, per the ILPA.
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Post by sheepy on Aug 11, 2023 20:59:07 GMT
The Immigration Law Practitioners Association (IPLA), a registered charity which represents the 4,000 or so solicitors, barristers and others who make their living representing foreigners who run foul of the immigration regulations in one way or another, has issued an eight-page statement on 'On the Safety and Protection of Immigration Practitioners'.
Evidently a climate of hostility towards lawyers practising immigration law has arisen. This hostile climate has, per the ILPA, without doubt been fuelled by increased vilification and attacks on the legitimacy of immigration practitioners’ work from senior politicians and certain sectors of the media. Such unwarranted and inappropriate demonisation of and targeted attacks against lawyers practising immigration law by senior Government figures and their party have sanctioned and encouraged reporting by the media that is both irresponsible and dangerous, per the ILPA.
Few more crying me river after being caught out then Dan. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 12, 2023 6:48:27 GMT
The Immigration Law Practitioners Association (IPLA), a registered charity which represents the 4,000 or so solicitors, barristers and others who make their living representing foreigners who run foul of the immigration regulations in one way or another, has issued an eight-page statement on 'On the Safety and Protection of Immigration Practitioners'.
Evidently a climate of hostility towards lawyers practising immigration law has arisen. This hostile climate has, per the ILPA, without doubt been fuelled by increased vilification and attacks on the legitimacy of immigration practitioners’ work from senior politicians and certain sectors of the media. Such unwarranted and inappropriate demonisation of and targeted attacks against lawyers practising immigration law by senior Government figures and their party have sanctioned and encouraged reporting by the media that is both irresponsible and dangerous, per the ILPA.
These people and organisations have long being suspected of corruption, Care4Calais a government funded charity were caught coaching illegals in Calais including telling them to throwaway any ID before they get to England, and it's hardly a secret that many publicly funded immigration lawyers/solicitors are bent. In my opinion all public and government funding should be withdrawn from any individual company or organisation who encourage any sort of immigration illegal or otherwise, particularly from the EU. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 12, 2023 7:12:14 GMT
There seems to be something very wrong with a system that grants a special interest group like the ILPA charitable status with all the privileges that that bestows. The ILPA is an intensely political organisation as its annual report shows. Amongst its achievements it lists its opposition to every government initiative to control immigration since the ILPA was founded in the mid-80s. Its charitable objectives include: To advance for the public benefit education and training on the law and related subjects and in particular in the fields of immigration, asylum and nationality law and legal advice and the representation of persons who are or may become immigrants to any part of the United Kingdom from whatever part of the world whether coming or intending to come to the UK for settlement or for some more limited purpose and for immigrants and emigrants of whatever nationality to or from any other part of the world. and
To promote for the public benefit human rights as set out in the Universal Declaration Of Human Rights and subsequent United Nations Conventions and Declarations, the European Convention On Human Rights and the Human Rights Act (1998) [and] equality and diversity as set out in the Equality Act 2010 and similar instruments
How on earth any of this has come to be regarded by the Charity Commissioners as being of benefit to the public is a very great mystery.
The legal system and the charity sector are both deeply rotten, neither delivering much if anything of benefit to the general public. However no government will touch either.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 12, 2023 7:47:03 GMT
You'll soon see how they are just doing their jobs once tax payers legal aid funding is stopped, it's all about the money, and plenty of it.
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Post by jonksy on Aug 12, 2023 7:48:10 GMT
The Immigration Law Practitioners Association (IPLA), a registered charity which represents the 4,000 or so solicitors, barristers and others who make their living representing foreigners who run foul of the immigration regulations in one way or another, has issued an eight-page statement on 'On the Safety and Protection of Immigration Practitioners'.
Evidently a climate of hostility towards lawyers practising immigration law has arisen. This hostile climate has, per the ILPA, without doubt been fuelled by increased vilification and attacks on the legitimacy of immigration practitioners’ work from senior politicians and certain sectors of the media. Such unwarranted and inappropriate demonisation of and targeted attacks against lawyers practising immigration law by senior Government figures and their party have sanctioned and encouraged reporting by the media that is both irresponsible and dangerous, per the ILPA.
These people and organisations have long being suspected of corruption, Care4Calais a government funded charity were caught coaching illegals in Calais including telling them to throwaway any ID before they get to England, and it's hardly a secret that many publicly funded immigration lawyers/solicitors are bent. In my opinion all public and government funding should be withdrawn from any individual company or organisation who encourage any sort of immigration illegal or otherwise, particularly from the EU. These are the arseholes who chase ambulances mate and try and pin bullshit on our military. The lot of them should be struck off. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 12, 2023 9:38:30 GMT
Another of ILPA's activities is management of the so-called 'Strategic Legal Fund' which provides grants to fund 'strategic' legal work, in any area of law where vulnerable young migrants experience disadvantage or discrimination because of their migration status.
In 2022 the SLF was funded to the tune of £175,000 by a consortium of charitable foundations, including: the Esmee Fairbairn Foundation, Trust for London, Unbound Philanthropy, Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust and Paul Hamlyn Foundation. Among the organisations which received grants to pursue immigration-related litigation were:
Migrants' Rights Network
Women for Refugee Women
Here for Good
RAMFEL (Refugee and Migrant Forum of Essex and London)
Migrant Legal Project
Bhatt Murphy Solicitors
Deighton Pierce Glynn
CPAG —Child Poverty Action Group
Southwark Law Centre
Doctors of the World
Public Interest Law Centre
Migrants Organise Ltd
Asylum Aid
Coram Childrens Legal Centre
Joint Committee for the Welfare of Immigrants
All donations and funds were of course tax-exempt.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 12, 2023 9:45:19 GMT
ILPA membership:
559 organisations plus 262 individuals. Each organisation has on average six individual memberships.
Includes 1910 solicitors, 649 OISC-regulated advisers, 646 Citizens Advice Bureaux and law centres, and 381 barristers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2023 9:58:14 GMT
Two former Conservative law officers have criticised the political rhetoric against “lefty lawyers” as damaging and wrong as the head of the Law Society warned it could lead to physical attacks on immigration solicitors.
Dominic Grieve, a former attorney general, and Edward Garnier, a Conservative peer and former solicitor general, said lawyers should not be attacked for doing their jobs, regardless of who they represent or their personal views.
There is a very clear divide between what is .. and what is not acceptable and lawful or within the remit of what any lawyer is responsible for. Advising people to "throw away ID" ( if indeed lawyers do this ) is clearly way out of order, as is making up stories etc.
Rishi Sunak and others are playing with fire, and it proves just how unprofessional they are, they are using divisive and caustic rhetoric, and if they were anything like decent politicians, they would not use terms like "Leftie Lawyers".
No matter who you are, no matter where you come from or what your circumstances, everyone is entitled to access to legal advice and representation.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 12, 2023 10:01:49 GMT
Two former Conservative law officers have criticised the political rhetoric against “lefty lawyers” as damaging and wrong as the head of the Law Society warned it could lead to physical attacks on immigration solicitors. Dominic Grieve, a former attorney general, and Edward Garnier, a Conservative peer and former solicitor general, said lawyers should not be attacked for doing their jobs, regardless of who they represent or their personal views. There is a very clear divide between what is .. and what is not acceptable and lawful or within the remit of what any lawyer is responsible for. Advising people to "throw away ID" ( if indeed lawyers do this ) is clearly way out of order, as is making up stories etc. Rishi Sunak and others are playing with fire, and it proves just how unprofessional they are, they are using divisive and caustic rhetoric, and if they were anything like decent politicians, they would not use terms like "Leftie Lawyers". No matter who you are, no matter where you come from or what your circumstances, everyone is entitled to access to legal advice and representation. Indeed everyone is entitled but I have to pay for mine and if I have not got enough money I cannot get it. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 12, 2023 10:05:54 GMT
"No matter who you are, no matter where you come from or what your circumstances, everyone is entitled to access to legal advice and representation"
The problem arises when legal advice and representation become a political act. As in using the act of representation as a means of changing the law.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2023 10:44:20 GMT
If justice means anything it means a FAIR hearing or trial, whether it be an Industrial Tribunal, a Criminal Court, a Civil Court or Tribunal.
To say, or to suggest that you cannot have legal representation, or access to advice because you cannot aford it, makes a mockery of Justice, and in actual fact it IS NOT Justice.
It is why in the fairer, more civilised societies such as here in Europe and in other countries, we give access to legal representation to those that cannot aford it.
If "The Law" is sound and fair, and if an asylum applicant REALLY is not fleeing war, persecution, torture or danger, then we have nothing to worry about, and in such instances the applicant should be sent packing.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 12, 2023 15:41:49 GMT
If justice means anything it means a FAIR hearing or trial, whether it be an Industrial Tribunal, a Criminal Court, a Civil Court or Tribunal. To say, or to suggest that you cannot have legal representation, or access to advice because you cannot aford it, makes a mockery of Justice, and in actual fact it IS NOT Justice. It is why in the fairer, more civilised societies such as here in Europe and in other countries, we give access to legal representation to those that cannot aford it. If "The Law" is sound and fair, and if an asylum applicant REALLY is not fleeing war, persecution, torture or danger, then we have nothing to worry about, and in such instances the applicant should be sent packing. I do not mind them having access, what I object to is having to pay for their access and mine. I would say if their claim is successful then their legal aid received is a debt with a repayment requirement through higher tax, after all they are mostly doctors, rocket scientists, IT experts and Industrial Chemists. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 12, 2023 16:38:02 GMT
That could be one approach but an even better one would be to abolish legal aid for immigration and asylum cases. More often than not such actions are initiated in an effort to thwart the immigration regulations anyway.
Claimants could turn for funding to any of the many deep-pocketed charitable foundations which concern themselves with 'migrant rights' (a very small sample was cited above). Or alternatively, lawyers who feel deeply about this cause could handle their cases pro bono. There's no rational reason for the burden to be placed on the taxpayer.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 12, 2023 17:36:43 GMT
To return to the ILPA, there is one statistic that it shies away from highlighting in its various publications, and that is the ethnic composition of its membership. It's long been empirically obvious that persons of migration background tend to gravitate to business sectors where others of the same characteristics tend to cluster and providing immigration advice and legal advice has always been one such area. As noted above the second largest cohort of members, after solicitors, are professional immigration advisors regulated by the Office of the Immigration Services Commissioner (OISC), whose role we touched on here. As also noted even a cursory view of the Register of Advisers indicates an overwhelming majority of officially certified advisers are of migration background. As for solicitors, there is no central register that can be searched to determine how many of the 160,000-odd practising solicitors specialise in immigration and related fields. It does seem likely, however, that a majority of those that do are also of migration background. An interesting datapoint is provided by Duncan Lewis Solicitors one of the largest law firms outside the ‘Magic Circle’. Their website indicates they have almost 600 employees, 55% of whom are of migration background. 67% of senior staff are BAME, as are 80% of the 120+ staff who specialise in immigration work. Duncan Lewis also claims on its website to be the largest provider of legal aid services in the UK, which also means it is the largest in Europe. |
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