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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2023 10:27:29 GMT
Thanks for giving my thread a boost Kim, but you're not coming off ignore. That's getting a bit lame, Vinny. If you are ignoring someone, why not ignore them completely rather than play silly games. No wonder you have so many posts with banality like this. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 12, 2023 10:27:48 GMT
Iggy if it was bought with a hole in it you would fix it. Well maybe you wouldnt...you want to sink all boats. You won the right to vontrol you borders. Now bloody well do it and stop blaming someone else for your utter inability to do it. This is the UK brought to you by Brexit. An ubershambles. Any chance you could address the issue regards the difference between accommodation offered here and that in France? Thatll be a no will it? All you are able to offer in reply is shouty slogans about brexit. I would suggest that the paucity of accommodation, down to tents and tarps, dont put migrants off on French beaches. France and Germany MUST BY LAW turn migrant applications around in 6 months. Germany, Spain, France and Italy account for 74% of first-time asylum applicants. In March 2023, Germany (25 170), Spain (15 570), France (11 870) and Italy (11 335) received the highest number of first-time asylum applicants, accounting for almost three-quarters (74%) of all first-time applicants in the EU.Jun 26, 2023 ec.europa.eu › eurostat › web Almost 86 000 asylum seekers in March 2023 - Eurostat *************(( There were 75,492 asylum applications (relating to 91,047 people) in the UK in the year ending March 2023. This is 33% more applications than in the year ending March 2022 (56,560, relating to 66,838 people), and the highest number for 2 decades.May 25, 2023 www.gov.uk › statistics › ho... How many people do we grant protection to? - GOV.UK So the UK has at least 3 times the number of applicants waiting. Why? Because the orher countries limit the time taken to process them. THEN they dont have to worry about where to put them . |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 12, 2023 10:30:42 GMT
Thanks for giving my thread a boost Kim, but you're not coming off ignore. That's getting a bit lame, Vinny. If you are ignoring someone, why not ignore them completely rather than play silly games. No wonder you have so many posts with banality like this. Iggy isnt ignoring me really. He is lying. He has before now directly answered some of my posts. He is also utterly deluded to think that being ignored by him makes any tiny difference. In fact it prevents more of his drivel. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 12, 2023 11:05:11 GMT
Any chance you could address the issue regards the difference between accommodation offered here and that in France? Thatll be a no will it? All you are able to offer in reply is shouty slogans about brexit. I would suggest that the paucity of accommodation, down to tents and tarps, dont put migrants off on French beaches. France and Germany MUST BY LAW turn migrant applications around in 6 months. Germany, Spain, France and Italy account for 74% of first-time asylum applicants. In March 2023, Germany (25 170), Spain (15 570), France (11 870) and Italy (11 335) received the highest number of first-time asylum applicants, accounting for almost three-quarters (74%) of all first-time applicants in the EU.Jun 26, 2023 ec.europa.eu › eurostat › web Almost 86 000 asylum seekers in March 2023 - Eurostat *************(( There were 75,492 asylum applications (relating to 91,047 people) in the UK in the year ending March 2023. This is 33% more applications than in the year ending March 2022 (56,560, relating to 66,838 people), and the highest number for 2 decades.May 25, 2023 www.gov.uk › statistics › ho... How many people do we grant protection to? - GOV.UK So the UK has at least 3 times the number of applicants waiting. Why? Because the orher countries limit the time taken to process them. THEN they dont have to worry about where to put them . More shouting and no answers,as opposed to France are these people accommodated better or not? |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 12, 2023 21:46:06 GMT
According to French law, registered asylum seekers have the right to accommodation in reception centres while their applications are being considered.May 5, 2023 www.against-inhumanity.org › ... Asylum Seekers Crossing the English Channel: Why Don't They ... Because by law they are processed within 6 months. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 12, 2023 21:56:48 GMT
WAP
When asylum seekers to the UK stop being used as political pieces of chess, and you start to realise that ALL OVER THE WORLD people are desperately fleeing assassination, rape, theft of children,
Every time a regime changes, the only answer is to stop pretending countries can control their OWN borders and start to behave civilly and agree to an international process.
Course I realise Brexit thought each country could control its own borders but the Dublin Agreement was a start to an international effort to coordinate migration.
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The EU has come to agreements with Jordan and Turkey who take huge numbers of migrants .
The UK voted to go it alone.
Suck it up.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 12, 2023 22:25:58 GMT
Thanks for giving my thread a boost Kim, but you're not coming off ignore. That's getting a bit lame, Vinny. If you are ignoring someone, why not ignore them completely rather than play silly games. No wonder you have so many posts with banality like this. Months ago I got a very very snotty PM from her, rather abusive PM in fact. I won't repeat the contents as I deleted it. But it was an absurd message. If I hadn't put her on iggy, which blocked her from being able to send more, one of us would have got a ban by now. And it wouldn't have been me. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 12, 2023 22:26:42 GMT
WAP When asylum seekers to the UK stop being used as political pieces of chess, and you start to realise that ALL OVER THE WORLD people are desperately fleeing assassination, rape, theft of children, Every time a regime changes, the only answer is to stop pretending countries can control their OWN borders and start to behave civilly and agree to an international process. Course I realise Brexit thought each country could control its own borders but the Dublin Agreement was a start to an international effort to coordinate migration. Th The EU has come to agreements with Jordan and Turkey who take huge numbers of migrants . The UK voted to go it alone. Suck it up. Orible, the Dublin agreement has been superseded,you’re shouting again and talking about brexit. Best get your hoover out and suck up the nonsense you talk.  |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 12, 2023 23:17:58 GMT
It hasnt been "superceded".
That means something has replaced it.
In truth it was eliminated when the UK left the EU.
It doesnt exist anymore.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 12, 2023 23:21:00 GMT
That's getting a bit lame, Vinny. If you are ignoring someone, why not ignore them completely rather than play silly games. No wonder you have so many posts with banality like this. Months ago I got a very very snotty PM from her, rather abusive PM in fact. I won't repeat the contents as I deleted it. But it was an absurd message. If I hadn't put her on iggy, which blocked her from being able to send more, one of us would have got a ban by now. And it wouldn't have been me. I have no idea what this liar is talking about. I dont know how to send a PM in this forum. I do know it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic entitled "slavery in the European Union". |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 12, 2023 23:37:18 GMT
It hasnt been "superceded". That means something has replaced it.In truth it was eliminated when the UK left the EU. It doesnt exist anymore. Something is replacing it when they finally agree Do try and keep up.  |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 13, 2023 0:22:48 GMT
I said every country has border restrictions. Therefore they ARE sovereign. Get it together, numpty. The FOM in the EU is the same principle as travelling across state lines in the USA. Do you suggest each state, which in the constitition has considerable soveteignty, close all 50 borders and that will stop illegal activity? Not on this planet So we agree, EU states are not sovereign independent countries, they are borderless EU states governed by an unelected cabal of bureaucrats from behind closed doors in Brussels. Having said that, I assume you are aware of the primacy of EU law? For your benefit - Quote: The principle of the primacy (also referred to as 'precedence' or 'supremacy') of European Union (EU) law. Where a conflict arises between an aspect of EU law and an aspect of law in an EU Member State (national law), EU law will prevail. link
Sovereign and independent countries cannot have their laws overruled, however EU states can and do have their laws overruled because EU law is superior to national laws and EU states cede sovereignty to the EU. Here to help.  Numpty lol. Aww bless. So not sovereign then. Silly Kim, what a numpty.🤣 |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 13, 2023 0:26:12 GMT
RR i am not now, 7 years aafter the Great Deception, attempt change history or explain to you about EU legislation. If you prefer not to live your life according to lying inept greedy political imbeciles, spend ten minutes reading this. commission.europa.eu/law/law-making-process/types-eu-law_enThere is FAR more national law in active UK statute that is completely outside the aegis of the EU. 7 years on and you still dont know what you voted for, or against. Sad. Really sad. Christ, not that nonsense again Letd be clear. You didnt know what the EU was. Still dont. The irony.🙄 |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 13, 2023 0:30:35 GMT
That's getting a bit lame, Vinny. If you are ignoring someone, why not ignore them completely rather than play silly games. No wonder you have so many posts with banality like this. Iggy isnt ignoring me really. He is lying. He has before now directly answered some of my posts. He is also utterly deluded to think that being ignored by him makes any tiny difference. In fact it prevents more of his drivel. And yet here you are responding to him. What a numpty!🤣 |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 13, 2023 5:14:30 GMT
Meanwhile there are actual slaves in the EU, some of them are from Eastern Europe.
Freedom of movement is a slavers dream. A smugglers charter. However well intentioned it may originally have been, it provides for a limitless flow of the cheapest labour.
Whatever the EU say they are doing about modern slavery, the fact is in practice they are compressing wages and causing poverty.
They have systems which allow gangs to cross borders and trade in slaves.
They allow agencies to advertise jobs in one country for work in another.
There are serious flaws in policy and the execution of policy. They do not legislate strongly enough to prevent modern slavery and by design, the system is quite accommodating towards it.
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