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Aug 6, 2023 11:49:40 GMT
Post by jonksy on Aug 6, 2023 11:49:40 GMT
Londonistan beats Paris and Rome to be crowned culture capital of Europe!......
Europe is awash with cultural gems - and there's still time to book a trip to soak them all up this summer.
From the ancient Roman ruins of Italy, the Gothic cathedrals of France, the Baroque master painters of the Netherlands or the seafood culinary treats of Spain, there's almost too much to choose from.
Lucking, global hospitality brand The Social Hub has brushed passed the emotional connections and national rivalries that colour our thoughts on different countries to get down to the numbers.
The result? A definitive list of European cities ranked based on cold, hard metrics such as the number of museums, theatre events and Michelin-starred restaurants.
Brits, it turns out, don't have far to go at all. So book your flights, or, more likely, your train.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 6, 2023 12:22:47 GMT
I fail to see how 'The Social Hub' has come to the conclusion that 21st century immigrant infested crime ridden London could be considered the European capital of culture. Unless of course this is an indication of how in recent years under the stewardship of the EU and their policy of mass immigration, European cities have also gone to the dogs. Perhaps the European city of culture should be renamed, the best of what's left, city of culture.
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Aug 6, 2023 12:43:18 GMT
Post by Dan Dare on Aug 6, 2023 12:43:18 GMT
While it may be a nice place to visit, London isn't much cop when it comes to nice places to live. The current EIU Global Liveability Index ranks it 46th out of 176. Manchester ranks 44th.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 6, 2023 13:30:10 GMT
While it may be a nice place to visit, London isn't much cop when it comes to nice places to live. The current EIU Global Liveability Index ranks it 46th out of 176. Manchester ranks 44th. Whether London is a nice place to visit or not is at best arguable, in my opinion. |
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Aug 6, 2023 13:38:42 GMT
Post by Dan Dare on Aug 6, 2023 13:38:42 GMT
Certainly England is unique in having practically all its cultural patrimony located in a single city. In other countries the goodies are much more widely (and fairly) dispersed.
But that still doesn't make London a desirable place to live when you rank it for stability, healthcare, culture and environment, education, and infrastructure as the Economist has just done.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 6, 2023 13:51:31 GMT
Certainly England is unique in having practically all its cultural patrimony located in a single city. In other countries the goodies are much more widely (and fairly) dispersed. But that still doesn't make London a desirable place to live when you rank it for stability, healthcare, culture and environment, education, and infrastructure as the Economist has just done. Maybe that's because many British/English people these days regard London as a crime ridden foreign city in which they have very little in common with. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2023 16:37:00 GMT
I don't think anyone on this thread, including me has lived in London. However, my daughter lived there for a few years around Fulham, moved a couple of times, Camberwell and Lewisham. We stayed at her flats and never felt threatened when out and about. Having lived in both very rural and very urban areas, the urban does have some advantages. Access to shops, public transport and services is so much easier in an urban area.
London is a huge area and has very poor areas and very rich ones. I wouldn't want to live there, especially, and my daughter has moved to Kent although she still works in the City.
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Aug 6, 2023 19:34:24 GMT
Post by Dan Dare on Aug 6, 2023 19:34:24 GMT
Certainly England is unique in having practically all its cultural patrimony located in a single city. In other countries the goodies are much more widely (and fairly) dispersed. But that still doesn't make London a desirable place to live when you rank it for stability, healthcare, culture and environment, education, and infrastructure as the Economist has just done. Maybe that's because many British/English people these days regard London as a crime ridden foreign city in which they have very little in common with. That might well be the case but as far as foreign visitors are concerned London still contains the historical and cultural attractions that England is famous for even though, as many Americans have said to me, there don't seem to be many actual English people around to interact with.
Where've they gone is the usual question?
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Aug 6, 2023 20:59:49 GMT
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 6, 2023 20:59:49 GMT
Leaving aside the details of some arty farty award i think it quite likely most of London’s population have no idea what goes on and what went on inside the city walls in the past.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 6, 2023 21:27:09 GMT
Maybe that's because many British/English people these days regard London as a crime ridden foreign city in which they have very little in common with. That might well be the case but as far as foreign visitors are concerned London still contains the historical and cultural attractions that England is famous for even though, as many Americans have said to me, there don't seem to be many actual English people around to interact with.
Where've they gone is the usual question?
They emigrate to France and other places in Europe only to pop up on forums like this and whinge about Brexit. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 7, 2023 7:34:08 GMT
Despite Khan's efforts, London is still a great place to live. Unless you're poor & black.
Like any huge city, it has some very nice areas and some not so nice areas and, as long as you can afford to stay out of the latter, it's perfectly safe.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 7, 2023 7:34:21 GMT
That might well be the case but as far as foreign visitors are concerned London still contains the historical and cultural attractions that England is famous for even though, as many Americans have said to me, there don't seem to be many actual English people around to interact with.
Where've they gone is the usual question?
They emigrate to France and other places in Europe only to pop up on forums like this and whinge about Brexit. LOL!  |
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Aug 7, 2023 9:52:43 GMT
Post by Dan Dare on Aug 7, 2023 9:52:43 GMT
Wherever they've gone there aren't many of them left. The White British inhabitants of London have been voting with their feet in the millions.
The 2021 census confirmed there are now around five million fewer white Britons in London than in 1950. On the other hand the non-white British population has increased by over five million over the same period.
It's no wonder Yanks are puzzled!
PS They're not all in France so have another go.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 7, 2023 10:09:53 GMT
I don't think anyone on this thread, including me has lived in London. However, my daughter lived there for a few years around Fulham, moved a couple of times, Camberwell and Lewisham. We stayed at her flats and never felt threatened when out and about. Having lived in both very rural and very urban areas, the urban does have some advantages. Access to shops, public transport and services is so much easier in an urban area. London is a huge area and has very poor areas and very rich ones. I wouldn't want to live there, especially, and my daughter has moved to Kent although she still works in the City. I have lived in London for 52 years and lived in and worked in various different Boroughs some are better than others seen all the sites, but now we do not go into parts of London at night or come home on the Tube late at night Finsbury Park Station is not a place to be at anytime of day or night, that is why we are getting out. Its too crowded, too noisy, too dirty, too expensive and now getting too dangerous |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 7, 2023 11:37:16 GMT
I don't think anyone on this thread, including me has lived in London. However, my daughter lived there for a few years around Fulham, moved a couple of times, Camberwell and Lewisham. We stayed at her flats and never felt threatened when out and about. Having lived in both very rural and very urban areas, the urban does have some advantages. Access to shops, public transport and services is so much easier in an urban area. London is a huge area and has very poor areas and very rich ones. I wouldn't want to live there, especially, and my daughter has moved to Kent although she still works in the City. I have lived in London for 52 years and lived in and worked in various different Boroughs some are better than others seen all the sites, but now we do not go into parts of London at night or come home on the Tube late at night Finsbury Park Station is not a place to be at anytime of day or night, that is why we are getting out. Its too crowded, too noisy, too dirty, too expensive and now getting too dangerous We have very many true Londoners moving down here to the westcountry mate and they are only too glad to be here. Khan has run London into the ground and before long it will only be criminals who dare live there. |
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