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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 3, 2023 8:15:26 GMT
This is what the petty EU are really like behind closed doors...
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Post by Vinny on Aug 3, 2023 8:25:46 GMT
He's right.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 4, 2023 7:03:01 GMT
He is zn ignorant idiot.
It is illegal for individual countries to make agreements to trade independently.
It runs counter to the fundamental underlying principle and identity of the single market.
Why do you give credence to such idiots?
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 4, 2023 7:09:29 GMT
He is zn ignorant idiot. It is illegal for individual countries to make agreements to trade independently.It runs counter to the fundamental underlying principle and identity of the single market. Why do you give credence to such idiots? That's the problem right there. Nowhere else on the planet is it "illegal" for a nation to discuss with another nation how it plans to check goods going to/from its nation. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 4, 2023 7:20:10 GMT
That is because the members want it that way and others are lining up to join. A single market including quality control and supply means the group containing half a billion condumers can be sure of better trade deals and assured quality, plus coordinated production, supply and equal protection of workers rights and opportunities across the area. No one in the EU wants to trade individually since they get a chance to formulate and vote on the community trade deals in their own interests. Ate you seriously telling me that you have assumed you are taken seriously in discussions about Brexit and dont know some of the fundmental facts about it?  Or are you so desperate in ypur opposition to the EU that what you think is your bubble brain has popped. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2023 7:38:08 GMT
All that matters is that the EU is a centralised dictatorship where the commission, which the people have no influence over, calls all of the shots. It's completely top-down, which is why the authoritarian lefties on here support it and hurl abuse toward those who don't. The UK is far more open and dynamic, so would never have been happy under the EU, and I suspect we're not alone. I recommend the UK continue to try build bridges with the people and governments of countries who'd also like to be shown a little respect.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 4, 2023 7:45:36 GMT
That is because the members want it that way and others are lining up to join. A single market including quality control and supply means the group containing half a billion condumers can be sure of better trade deals and assured quality, plus coordinated production, supply and equal protection of workers rights and opportunities across the area. No one in the EU wants to trade individually since they get a chance to formulate and vote on the community trade deals in their own interests. Ate you seriously telling me that you have assumed you are taken seriously in discussions about Brexit and dont know some of the fundmental facts about it? Or are you so desperate in ypur opposition to the EU that what you think is your bubble brain has popped. The EU struggles to make trade deals, and your exceptionalism to your quality is misguided as much as it is insular. Yes, I know how the EU operates, and it certainly didn't make community trade deals in the interests of Britain. It couldn't even form a single market for financial services. You couldn't even coordinate a vaccine properly. You can't even coordinate support for Ukraine properly. You're pretty fucking useless geopolitically in the grand scheme of things. The EU's outdated and behind the times. Its model has failed. Low growth and stagnation with high regulation is all the EU is left with. Yes, the UK has low-growth too, our establishment have their heads conditioned by the technocrats in Brussels. That's what 40 odd years of being a member of that cesspit produced. The Whitehall Blob. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2023 7:59:15 GMT
That is because the members want it that way and others are lining up to join. The EU expands with uncertainty and fear, where war appears to be their greatest benefactor. The EU expanded big time during the war in Iraq and war of terrorism, which was overseen in the UK by a EUphile who encouraged the West to become more dependent on Russian gas. At the time most people were too distracted to take notice, and the EU just wasn't something the BBC covered back then. The Russian/Ukraine war today has had the same effect, especially on smaller countries in Europe who feel threatened under this uncertainty. This has been played on by the EU by them posing with NATO, even though the EU does not sit in NATO - the individual countries, or members, do. I hope you can work out the hypocrisy for yourself, because I hate long lectures. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 4, 2023 8:10:12 GMT
That is because the members want it that way and others are lining up to join. A single market including quality control and supply means the group containing half a billion condumers can be sure of better trade deals and assured quality, plus coordinated production, supply and equal protection of workers rights and opportunities across the area. No one in the EU wants to trade individually since they get a chance to formulate and vote on the community trade deals in their own interests. Ate you seriously telling me that you have assumed you are taken seriously in discussions about Brexit and dont know some of the fundmental facts about it? Or are you so desperate in ypur opposition to the EU that what you think is your bubble brain has popped. The EU struggles to make trade deals, and your exceptionalism to your quality is misguided as much as it is insular. Yes, I know how the EU operates, and it certainly didn't make community trade deals in the interests of Britain. It couldn't even form a single market for financial services. You couldn't even coordinate a vaccine properly. You can't even coordinate support for Ukraine properly. You're pretty fucking useless geopolitically in the grand scheme of things. The EU's outdated and behind the times. Its model has failed. Low growth and stagnation with high regulation is all the EU is left with. Yes, the UK has low-growth too, our establishment have their heads conditioned by the technocrats in Brussels. That's what 40 odd years of being a member of that cesspit produced. The Whitehall Blob. Yep. The UK struggled to make ovrr 80 trade deals, all of which you kept. Piss off. You dont have a clue and i am not going all over this again. You convince your farmers that your swinging your doors widecopen to australian sheep and beef is a good deal. That should keep you busy, Bubbles. |
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 4, 2023 8:27:44 GMT
The EU struggles to make trade deals, and your exceptionalism to your quality is misguided as much as it is insular. Yes, I know how the EU operates, and it certainly didn't make community trade deals in the interests of Britain. It couldn't even form a single market for financial services. You couldn't even coordinate a vaccine properly. You can't even coordinate support for Ukraine properly. You're pretty fucking useless geopolitically in the grand scheme of things. The EU's outdated and behind the times. Its model has failed. Low growth and stagnation with high regulation is all the EU is left with. Yes, the UK has low-growth too, our establishment have their heads conditioned by the technocrats in Brussels. That's what 40 odd years of being a member of that cesspit produced. The Whitehall Blob. Yep. The UK struggled to make ovrr 80 trade deals, all of which you kept. Piss off. You dont have a clue and i am not going all over this again. You convince your farmers that your swinging your doors widecopen to australian sheep and beef is a good deal. That should keep you busy, Bubbles. What would keep a rude little bint like you busy then apart from displaying constant bitterness about Brexit free-ing itself from a technocratic empire, the dishes? |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 4, 2023 8:50:58 GMT
That is because the members want it that way and others are lining up to join. A single market including quality control and supply means the group containing half a billion condumers can be sure of better trade deals and assured quality, plus coordinated production, supply and equal protection of workers rights and opportunities across the area. No one in the EU wants to trade individually since they get a chance to formulate and vote on the community trade deals in their own interests. Ate you seriously telling me that you have assumed you are taken seriously in discussions about Brexit and dont know some of the fundmental facts about it? Or are you so desperate in ypur opposition to the EU that what you think is your bubble brain has popped. The EU struggles to make trade deals, and your exceptionalism to your quality is misguided as much as it is insular. Yes, I know how the EU operates, and it certainly didn't make community trade deals in the interests of Britain. It couldn't even form a single market for financial services. You couldn't even coordinate a vaccine properly. You can't even coordinate support for Ukraine properly. You're pretty fucking useless geopolitically in the grand scheme of things. The EU's outdated and behind the times. Its model has failed. Low growth and stagnation with high regulation is all the EU is left with. Yes, the UK has low-growth too, our establishment have their heads conditioned by the technocrats in Brussels. That's what 40 odd years of being a member of that cesspit produced. The Whitehall Blob. Exactly, it's one thing to have a free trade agreement, but the all encompassing, but not a country, Commission run mess simply does not work. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 4, 2023 9:53:41 GMT
Well ot has made the UK a fairly wealthy country for 70 years.
If EU treade deals are a mess, dump them.
I note the Brexit Tory government has syepped back from doing so
Dont bite the hznd 5hat feeds you.
In fact the UK is now nnegotizting how much it will cost to rejoin s9me EU projects.
Meanwhile thete is a new issye concerning quality marks
If the Uk doesnt carry the EU approved quality mark the UK cant sell into the cEU or other countries who have qgreed to the EU mark as a condition of trade.
So the UK now has to have its exports zpprov3d by th4 EU.
So much for sovereignty!!
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You may as well rejoin 5he single market now and save yourselves all that angst.
It will happen anyway...
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Post by Vinny on Aug 4, 2023 10:12:27 GMT
You're still on ignore but you've boosted my post and helped me to make the point that the EU is a Commission run mess.
It simply does not work. It never has.
We were dragged out of the EEC and into the EU by John Major in the 1990's without a referendum, and our industries declined whilst we were in whilst living costs soared.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 4, 2023 10:39:44 GMT
You're still on ignore but you've boosted my post and helped me to make the point that the EU is a Commission run mess. It simply does not work. It never has. We were dragged out of the EEC and into the EU by John Major in the 1990's without a referendum, and our industries declined whilst we were in whilst living costs soared. Talk about mess . Vinny is replying to something he says he hasnt read !! He is actually admitting he is an idiot! Sooner or later it had to happen. |
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 4, 2023 11:17:21 GMT
You're still on ignore but you've boosted my post and helped me to make the point that the EU is a Commission run mess. It simply does not work. It never has. We were dragged out of the EEC and into the EU by John Major in the 1990's without a referendum, and our industries declined whilst we were in whilst living costs soared. You're best off ignoring it. It's barely legible. |
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