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Post by wapentake on Jul 28, 2023 15:26:27 GMT
No amount of money will give him those lost years. Maybe not, but any compensation should be sufficient to ensure he has a comfortable lifestyle for the rest of his life. Aye but the cheeky sods want to deduct bed and board,the bloke feared for his safety in prison labelled a nonce by criminals rightfully incarcerated who for some reason believe they’re better than him they’re not. |
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Post by om15 on Jul 28, 2023 16:40:09 GMT
Let's look at this more closely, it costs £46,696 per annum to keep a prisoner in jail, this gentlemen has spent 17 years in prison for a crime that he didn't commit, with great strength of character he maintained his innocence until it was confirmed by DNA evidence. By this time the costs of his incarceration had risen to £793,832.
I don't know what job he had, but let's assume that he would have earned £30,000 per annum, his lost earnings amount to an estimated £510,000. If we follow the logic of these cretins and he is compensated for lost earnings he will then actually owe them £283,832.
Every day we read news which demonstrates just how much our Country has gone down the plug hole, that is under the Tories, never mind what Labour would do to us.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2023 17:21:41 GMT
He's lost the best years of his life, through no fault of his own. He should be compensated £100,000 a year inside for that, which is why I agreed with the £2 million suggestion.
The idea he should pay for his own detention is abhorrent.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 28, 2023 17:29:16 GMT
He's lost the best years of his life, through no fault of his own. He should be compensated £100,000 a year inside for that, which is why I agreed with the £2 million suggestion. The idea he should pay for his own detention is abhorrent. I agree. A couple of million would go someway to compensate him for 17 years of his life. And the thought of making him pay for his own wrongful imprisonment is as you say, abhorrent. |
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Post by dappy on Jul 28, 2023 17:39:34 GMT
Strictly speaking he is not paying for his time in jail but having a deduction made for costs he has avoided that he would have incurred as a free man.
I agree though, it is a very odd law which doesn’t seem just.
Actually his case highlights a far more iniquitous law affecting sex offenders. He claimed his innocence and was proven right. Had he admitted guilt (wrongly) he would have been eligible for courses in jail that would likely have resulted in his release several years ago. Because he didn’t admit guilt, he couldn’t do the courses and hence wasnt eligible for release. That can’t be right.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 28, 2023 17:46:54 GMT
Strictly speaking he is not paying for his time in jail but having a deduction made for costs he has avoided that he would have incurred as a free man. I agree though, it is a very odd law which doesn’t seem just. Actually his case highlights a far more iniquitous law affecting sex offenders. He claimed his innocence and was proven right. Had he admitted guilt (wrongly) he would have been eligible for courses in jail that would likely have resulted in his release several years ago. Because he didn’t admit guilt, he couldn’t do the courses and hence wasnt eligible for release. That can’t be right. Wonders never cease. Something we actually agree on. |
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Post by dappy on Jul 28, 2023 17:55:56 GMT
Listen and learn Red. I’ll show you the error of your ways and you will see the correct path on all matters in time….
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 28, 2023 18:09:56 GMT
Listen and learn Red. I’ll show you the error of your ways and you will see the correct path on all matters in time…. LOL. |
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Post by sheepy on Jul 28, 2023 18:32:56 GMT
I was listening yesterday and on the radio it was all about this, if there ever was a reason for being wise after a conviction, this must be it.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 28, 2023 21:06:46 GMT
Remember that these things happen the next time you start calling for the reintroduction of the death penalty. I don't think anyone is calling for rapists to be executed. i beg to differ. Sadly AIDS did the job for me before i could pull the trapdoor handle |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 28, 2023 21:09:30 GMT
Let's look at this more closely, it costs £46,696 per annum to keep a prisoner in jail, this gentlemen has spent 17 years in prison for a crime that he didn't commit, with great strength of character he maintained his innocence until it was confirmed by DNA evidence. By this time the costs of his incarceration had risen to £793,832. I don't know what job he had, but let's assume that he would have earned £30,000 per annum, his lost earnings amount to an estimated £510,000. If we follow the logic of these cretins and he is compensated for lost earnings he will then actually owe them £283,832. Every day we read news which demonstrates just how much our Country has gone down the plug hole, that is under the Tories, never mind what Labour would do to us. no that isn’t actually the ligic they apply. The amount you quote includes the cost of the guards and keeping him secured. I am fairly sure the house of lords ruling removed those costs from the fees deducted from the compensation award |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 28, 2023 21:11:31 GMT
I don't think anyone is calling for rapists to be executed. i beg to differ. Sadly AIDS did the job for me before i could pull the trapdoor handle JoG! I don't quite follow... |
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Post by wapentake on Jul 28, 2023 21:22:04 GMT
i beg to differ. Sadly AIDS did the job for me before i could pull the trapdoor handle JoG! I don't quite follow... I do and it’s quite sad and I understand why he feels as he does even if I disagree. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 28, 2023 21:43:32 GMT
JoG! I don't quite follow... I do and it’s quite sad and I understand why he feels as he does even if I disagree. All has been explained. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 29, 2023 11:50:23 GMT
No amount of money will give him those lost years. Maybe not, but any compensation should be sufficient to ensure he has a comfortable lifestyle for the rest of his life. That’s a difficukt thing to work out though The issue of course is what would you have been doing were you not banged up. And what would you have earned ? What if you used the time banged up to some educational advantage ? You hear of people getting degrees while behind bars (and in general i applaud that if they can) but when released as an innocent would they slap you a £30,000 bill ?? The other thing to bear in mind is a million is only £50,000 a year over a twenty year stretch, most train drivers get that do they not ? |
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