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Post by sandypine on Nov 6, 2022 22:46:53 GMT
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 6, 2022 22:47:50 GMT
Here a radical thought by me to stop the ilegal immigrants landing on the kent coast.
And probably save lifes .
Lets legalise them no more expensive migration centers, putting them up in hotel rooms .
Stop the organized crime syndicate running illegal boat journeys.
Maybe stop them turning to the black market and drugs trade.
Its a win win situation
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Post by sheepy on Nov 6, 2022 23:47:35 GMT
Here a radical thought by me to stop the ilegal immigrants landing on the kent coast. And probably save lifes . Lets legalise them no more expensive migration centers, putting them up in hotel rooms . Stop the organized crime syndicate running illegal boat journeys. Maybe stop them turning to the black market and drugs trade. Its a win win situation Sure it is, after all we have the infrastructure in place and the resources, oh but wait! |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 6, 2022 23:58:58 GMT
Don't know how such a small number of people are going the infrastructure or put strain on the resources
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Post by sheepy on Nov 7, 2022 0:08:35 GMT
Don't know how such a small number of people are going the infrastructure or put strain on the resources Don't you, oh well you won't be complaining then and rushing around telling us how bad the poor have it. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 7, 2022 0:25:03 GMT
Immigrants who pass asylum vetting, are legal.
If you give a free pass to all, including those who really don't deserve it, then you give a free pass to terrorists, to drug smugglers, to pimps, and what's going to happen a few years from now when Russia has a new government and Russian war criminals are "seeking asylum" ?
You'd give a free pass to wanted murders wouldn't you, leftie ?
Because all they'd have to do is say to you, "I'm an asylum seeker", and you'd say, "oh, in that case come in".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 5:45:23 GMT
I suspect the BBC will regard it as terrorism against poor downtrodden refugees by a Tory voting right-wing extremist. I suppose time will tell. It is terrorism. Surely you do not support firebombing? Sadly I think he does justify firebombing of immigrants as a justified expression of legitimate anger. The sort of person who sees merit in shoving excrement in the letterboxes of immigrants. That is what we are dealing with here. I would be surprised if he hasn't been tempted to vote BNP in the past, and almost certainly was part of the lunatic fringe of UKIP supporters. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 7, 2022 8:12:47 GMT
Srb, I am disgusted by the suicide terrorist attack against the centre.
People in it are in our care, we owe them safety whilst they are in our care.
If we approve and let in, or reject and deport, they're in our care until out of our country.
I have a question though, do you believe in vetting asylum seekers before approving claims? We do after all see bogus asylum seekers trying to get into our country and some of these bogus asylum seekers have been war crime suspects.
A couple of years from now we may see people who are currently Russian soldiers "seeking asylum" in the UK who may be war criminals trying to flee justice.
And if we don't adequately vet the applicants, actual rapists and murderers could slip through the net putting British citizens and foreign nationals at risk.
One proposal has been to vet applications abroad, i.e. Rwanda.
What are your thoughts regarding this policy?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 9:28:28 GMT
I would be surprised if he hasn't been tempted to vote BNP in the past, and almost certainly was part of the lunatic fringe of UKIP supporters. The BNP and UKIP are nothing alike.
The BNP only gained some small traction because Labour were covering up child rape gangs. On the most part their small support base were old Labour supporters.
The UKIP was a eurosceptic party that barred anyone with any association with the BNP from joining the party. A party made up of disaffected Conservatives.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 7, 2022 10:07:49 GMT
Immigrants who pass asylum vetting, are legal. If you give a free pass to all, including those who really don't deserve it, then you give a free pass to terrorists, to drug smugglers, to pimps, and what's going to happen a few years from now when Russia has a new government and Russian war criminals are "seeking asylum" ? You'd give a free pass to wanted murders wouldn't you, leftie ? Because all they'd have to do is say to you, "I'm an asylum seeker", and you'd say, "oh, in that case come in". Yea let them all In.or we could bomd them out of the water vinny |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 7, 2022 10:14:24 GMT
No problem with shooting armed people smugglers who fire rifles at Navy ships.
No problem destroying boats in port so they can't be used, but actually killing people for wanting to come here ? NO.
Deporting to Rwanda for processing, to save lives, yes.
Killing asylum seekers, no.
Not even bogus ones.
If processing asylum claims in Rwanda saves lives, then who wouldn't be in favour of that ?
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Post by Orac on Nov 7, 2022 10:34:46 GMT
If processing asylum claims in Rwanda saves lives, then who wouldn't be in favour of that ? Among the general public (people who work for a living), not many. However, the sentiment that the ingress is a good in itself is not uncommon in our political class. It's hard to be sure what these people's motives might be, but they are likely to be a mixture of financial and political |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 11:03:06 GMT
I would be surprised if he hasn't been tempted to vote BNP in the past, and almost certainly was part of the lunatic fringe of UKIP supporters. The BNP and UKIP are nothing alike.
The BNP only gained some small traction because Labour were covering up child rape gangs. On the most part their small support base were old Labour supporters.
The UKIP was a eurosceptic party that barred anyone with any association with the BNP from joining the party. A party made up of disaffected Conservatives.
Yet many BNP supporters switched seemlessly to supporting UKIP which is why the rise of UKIP saw the collapse in BNP support. Like the guy in the flat opposite to mine who in every election used to have a vote BNP poster in his window, but later switched to a vote UKIP poster. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 11:05:53 GMT
The BNP and UKIP are nothing alike.
The BNP only gained some small traction because Labour were covering up child rape gangs. On the most part their small support base were old Labour supporters.
The UKIP was a eurosceptic party that barred anyone with any association with the BNP from joining the party. A party made up of disaffected Conservatives.
Yet many BNP supporters switched seemlessly to supporting UKIP which is why the rise of UKIP saw the collapse in BNP support. Like the guy in the flat opposite to mine who in every election used to have a vote BNP poster in his window, but later switched to a vote UKIP poster. Wow, that's some conclusive evidence right there. 
Guess what, the rise of UKIP support saw a decline in Labour and Conservative support.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 12:10:48 GMT
Yet many BNP supporters switched seemlessly to supporting UKIP which is why the rise of UKIP saw the collapse in BNP support. Like the guy in the flat opposite to mine who in every election used to have a vote BNP poster in his window, but later switched to a vote UKIP poster. Wow, that's some conclusive evidence right there.
Guess what, the rise of UKIP support saw a decline in Labour and Conservative support.
So what? It is no secret that some of these switched to UKIP too. The BNP vote virtually did en masse though. Many UKIP supporters - far from all, but many - were closet racists, including many former BNP voting types. |
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