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Post by patman post on Nov 5, 2022 13:45:58 GMT
I agree no one in the Holding Centre or Staff were injured, the only casualty was the man who carried out the attack who in his state of mind took his own life Poor crazy sod. Poor crazy radicalised sod… |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 5, 2022 13:56:54 GMT
Whay makes you think he was radicalised? and by whom?
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Post by borchester on Nov 5, 2022 14:02:59 GMT
Whay makes you think he was radicalised? and by whom?
No info as such, but most of these guys seem to have had long conversations with God, Marx, Ayn Rand and the Tooth Fairy and end up radicalising themselves.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 5, 2022 14:10:00 GMT
Whay makes you think he was radicalised? and by whom? For me the fire bombs were a big hint. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2022 14:16:32 GMT
Whay makes you think he was radicalised? and by whom? My guess would be the open border crazy types and institutional corruption. |
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Post by colbops on Nov 5, 2022 14:17:12 GMT
Rather than worrying about what will or won't upset the apologists on here, I'd be more concerned about the potential consequences of sitting by and gleefully embracing the practice of applying the terrorism label evermore liberally. In most things harmful, I tend to leave definitions to experts and not partisan apologists and excusers. That way it becomes easier for them to mount protective counter measures… There you go again. Who cares what your so called 'apologists and excusers' think. Why let them bias you in any way. shouldn't you be more worried about the tenuous application of 'terrorism' given the consequences of such a label both in terms of the erosion of rights to people suspected of / accused of / being investigated for / convicted of, and erosion of rights / consequences / stigma to those related to or otherwise associated to the same. Its a slippery slope we are on here, and letting it slide is a risky game. How long before protests (lets face it most have some element of political motivation) become an act of terrorism, with anyone in attendance who falls foul of the law, or is suspected of doing so, is branded a potential terrorist with due process that would usually apply going out of the window. |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 5, 2022 14:19:03 GMT
Whay makes you think he was radicalised? and by whom? For me the fire bombs were a big hint. Rather crudely made Molotov Cocktails that many people know how to make, he made his with fireworks attached to them I think two did not work, he was not playing with a full deck |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 5, 2022 14:20:54 GMT
Whay makes you think he was radicalised? and by whom? My guess would be the open border crazy types and institutional corruption. Too deep for me |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2022 14:31:39 GMT
My guess would be the open border crazy types and institutional corruption. Too deep for me It's just causality. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 5, 2022 15:01:51 GMT
Whay makes you think he was radicalised? and by whom? For me the fire bombs were a big hint. 'Fire bombs', sounds very emotive doesn't it. I suppose it depends what you consider a bomb is. |
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Post by sword on Nov 5, 2022 15:07:04 GMT
Well its been on news after a search of the mans home he was a home grown fascist and racist,wouldn't be surprised if they found a copy of Mein Kampf and a shrine to Hitler.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2022 15:31:45 GMT
For me the fire bombs were a big hint. 'Fire bombs', sounds very emotive doesn't it. I suppose it depends what you consider a bomb is. It sounds like he was treated quite bad and was even writing about the problems on and off line. Of course, he was ignored and probably called names so he ended up doing this before taking his own life.
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Post by sword on Nov 5, 2022 15:43:39 GMT
'Fire bombs', sounds very emotive doesn't it. I suppose it depends what you consider a bomb is. It sounds like he was treated quite bad and was even writing about the problems on and off line. Of course, he was ignored and probably called names so he ended up doing this before taking his own life.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 5, 2022 15:44:00 GMT
For me the fire bombs were a big hint. Rather crudely made Molotov Cocktails that many people know how to make, he made his with fireworks attached to them I think two did not work, he was not playing with a full deck It wasn't the construction I was considering but his desire to throw his bombs at people he didn't even know. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2022 15:46:31 GMT
For me the fire bombs were a big hint. Rather crudely made Molotov Cocktails that many people know how to make, he made his with fireworks attached to them I think two did not work, he was not playing with a full deck "mental health issues following the death of his son and had his penis removed because of cancer."
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