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Post by bancroft on Aug 3, 2023 10:36:09 GMT
This corresponds with other articles I have been watching too.
I see a connection with the oil crisis in '73 that crippled a lot of UK car manufacturing and that never recovered.
Did you notice this chap had a picture of Napoleon in the background.
Germany will still be big in finance and pharmaceuticals yet the downward economic spirals in the EU will hurt the EU as a group.
They will try and respond and how will that look, they might push out green energy schemes like in the past govts doing infrastructure projects to kick-start the economic cycles after a shock.
Will be interesting to see how they try to adapt.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 3, 2023 11:02:05 GMT
I don't agree with everything he said, but it was a very interesting vid. He was absolutely right about the effect of energy costs. Nothing will have a more adverse effect on the economy than high energy costs, and nothing will ensure we have high energy costs more than relying on renewables. So what do you suggest? Coal is arguably the best carbon capture on the planet and Sunak is supporting the increase in releasing the carbon back into the atmosphere while bragging that he is leading the world in using renewables. There doesnt seem to be any joined up thinking. If the UK can eventually do without coal altogether, it can cancel import cintracts. Closing a mine and restoring the local environmental damage plus unemployment is far slower and more expensive. If all the time and money used to creatz this mine had been invested in nuclear energy, you would be laughing by now. The Tory government can justifiably go into the history books as wasting the biggest number of billions of pounds in one (3) administrations, including HS2, the third Heathrow runway, covid and now a new coalmine. Sunak can blame inflation on strikes and oil costs but rhe Tories have, as one infamous idiot said, spaffing tens of billions of unnecessary quid up the wall. I don't quite follow! What do you mean by 'Coal is arguably the best carbon capture on the planet'? Sunak has committed to invest in carbon capture. By the way, are you aware that the EU state of Germany is heavily reliant on coal and one of the largest coal producers in the world. |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 3, 2023 12:14:56 GMT
So what do you suggest? Coal is arguably the best carbon capture on the planet and Sunak is supporting the increase in releasing the carbon back into the atmosphere while bragging that he is leading the world in using renewables. There doesnt seem to be any joined up thinking. If the UK can eventually do without coal altogether, it can cancel import cintracts. Closing a mine and restoring the local environmental damage plus unemployment is far slower and more expensive. If all the time and money used to creatz this mine had been invested in nuclear energy, you would be laughing by now. The Tory government can justifiably go into the history books as wasting the biggest number of billions of pounds in one (3) administrations, including HS2, the third Heathrow runway, covid and now a new coalmine. Sunak can blame inflation on strikes and oil costs but rhe Tories have, as one infamous idiot said, spaffing tens of billions of unnecessary quid up the wall. I don't quite follow! What do you mean by 'Coal is arguably the best carbon capture on the planet'? Sunak has committed to invest in carbon capture. By the way, are you aware that the EU state of Germany is heavily reliant on coal and one of the largest coal producers in the world. Here's a good vid mate....The EUSSR holds the record for largest monumental f@ckup the world has ever seen.....The reference starts at 9.44 in the vid...
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 3, 2023 12:16:29 GMT
Where is the EUSSR?
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 3, 2023 12:20:20 GMT
@ RR
Coal is made of vegetation which stored carbon ans gave out oxygen. That is why scouts and communities are running about planting trees.
Coal is stored carbon.
Burning coal takes far less time than growing vegetation and it releases all that carbon that is stored in it.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 3, 2023 12:25:08 GMT
It's a borderless migrant infested shit tip governed by unelected commissars in Brussels and stretches from Romania in the east to Portugal in the west, and from Sweden in the north to Greece in the south.  |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 3, 2023 12:34:44 GMT
@ RR Coal is made of vegetation which stored carbon ans gave out oxygen. That is why scouts and communities are running about planting trees. Coal is stored carbon. Burning coal takes far less time than growing vegetation and it releases all that carbon that is stored in it. Oh I see what you mean, lol. Aaaaaanyhoo, back to reality. Carbon capture is the way to go, the Norwegians have been making a fortune from carbon capture since 1996. They collect CO2 from other countries in specially adapted ships and inject it into the seabed off western Norway, where it came from. So, that's that one sorted. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 3, 2023 12:38:58 GMT
@ RR Coal is made of vegetation which stored carbon ans gave out oxygen. That is why scouts and communities are running about planting trees. Coal is stored carbon. Burning coal takes far less time than growing vegetation and it releases all that carbon that is stored in it. Oh I see what you mean, lol. Aaaaaanyhoo, back to reality. Carbon capture is the way to go, the Norwegians have been making a fortune from carbon capture since 1996. They collect CO2 from other countries in specially adapted ships and inject it into the seabed off western Norway, where it came from. So, that's that one sorted. THey also sell you a great deal of natural gas and make a nice little earner while Sunak is investing in releasing all that carbon back 9nto the air. If carbon CAPTURE is the way to go why is he releasing more carbon ?? |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 3, 2023 12:40:44 GMT
It's a borderless migrant infested shit tip governed by unelected commissars in Brussels and stretches from Romania in the east to Portugal in the west, and from Sweden in the north to Greece in the south. Does it have a seat in the UN, a largz posirion in NATO and a voice in the WTO? THE EU does Are you confused? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 3, 2023 12:55:05 GMT
Oh I see what you mean, lol. Aaaaaanyhoo, back to reality. Carbon capture is the way to go, the Norwegians have been making a fortune from carbon capture since 1996. They collect CO2 from other countries in specially adapted ships and inject it into the seabed off western Norway, where it came from. So, that's that one sorted. THey also sell you a great deal of natural gas and make a nice little earner while Sunak is investing in releasing all that carbon back 9nto the air. If carbon CAPTURE is the way to go why is he releasing more carbon ?? Sunak has committed the UK to investing in carbon capture, and lets not forget the UK produces just 1% of global carbon emissions. The EU produce 17% with the EU state of Germany producing a massive 8%. Are you criticising the EU? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 3, 2023 12:58:50 GMT
It's a borderless migrant infested shit tip governed by unelected commissars in Brussels and stretches from Romania in the east to Portugal in the west, and from Sweden in the north to Greece in the south. Does it have a seat in the UN, a largz posirion in NATO and a voice in the WTO? THE EU does Are you confused? The EU should not have a seat at the UN, it's not a nation state and for the same reason the EU should not have ambassadors. It's a nonsense. The unelected commissars are just trying to big themselves up. Edit: The EU does not have a seat at the UN, quite right too. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 3, 2023 13:01:37 GMT
Then why is he cpmmitted to carbon capture while releasing carbon into the air??
The Eu has nothing to do with this. This instead is about the "destruction of the EU economy," not carbon policy.
I already posted one of many pieces of information which prove you very wrong.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 3, 2023 13:02:59 GMT
Does it have a seat in the UN, a largz posirion in NATO and a voice in the WTO? THE EU does Are you confused? The EU should not have a seat at the UN, it's not a nation state and for the same reason the EU should not have ambassadors. It's a nonsense. The unelected commissars are just trying to big themselves up. Edit: The EU does not have a seat at the UN, quite right too. European Union (EU) has had permanent observer status at the United Nations (UN) since 1974, and has had enhanced participation rights since 2011. The EU itself does not have voting rights but it is represented alongside its 27 members, one of which, France, is a permanent member of the Security Council. en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki European Union and the United Nations - Wikipedia |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 3, 2023 13:04:39 GMT
The EU should not have a seat at the UN, it's not a nation state and for the same reason the EU should not have ambassadors. It's a nonsense. The unelected commissars are just trying to big themselves up. Edit: The EU does not have a seat at the UN, quite right too. European Union (EU) has had permanent observer status at the United Nations (UN) since 1974, and has had enhanced participation rights since 2011. The EU itself does not have voting rights but it is represented alongside its 27 members, one of which, France, is a permanent member of the Security Council. en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki European Union and the United Nations - Wikipedia Correct. So the EU does not have a permanent seat at the UN. Quite right too, stroppy upstarts. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 3, 2023 13:05:34 GMT
I am quite convinced that far too many people in here live in a world of their own preferences, not of reality.
Check before you post. Yoy might learn something.
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