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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 30, 2022 7:17:56 GMT
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Post by Toreador on Oct 30, 2022 7:29:41 GMT
I think Khan is being blamed for not doing enough about crime.
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 30, 2022 7:49:17 GMT
Couldn't the same be said about other council's who have a higher level of knife crime.
Or if you want potion blame of increased knife/violent crime I could blame the present Government has it has increased under there tenure
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Post by Toreador on Oct 30, 2022 7:59:34 GMT
Couldn't the same be said about other council's who have a higher level of knife crime. Or if you want potion blame of increased knife/violent crime I could blame the present Government has it has increased under there tenure I think Khan is being blamed for not doing enough about crime and that's because a mayor has a responsibility for running his territory, whether it's London or some other crime ridden area. To say the police are entirely responsible for handling crime, you need to ask why councils chose some of their members to sit on police committees.
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Post by thomas on Oct 30, 2022 8:29:59 GMT
Knife crime and the labour party seem to go hand in hand . Glasgow my home city as everyone knows was labour run for eight decades , and at one time the labour party had glasgow the murder capital and knife crime hotspot of the developed world , with stabbings being on a par with third world cities.
Your article though doesnt do you any favours if this is an attempt to defend labour. It mentions Cleveland , with many of the areas there being traditional labour areas. Middlesborough for example , is a traditional labour council currently having labour as the largest party.
Stockton on tees is again a labour council with labours bob cook the leader. Steve siddons in labour leader of scarborough council.
From all reports i have read , saddo khan is a terrible london mayor , with knife crime through the roof sadly but unsurprisngly. When confronted with his lamentable record , he retreats onto the well worn labour excuse of blaming tory austerity and governance.
Everywhere the labour party gain control of , they run the area down into the dirt .
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 30, 2022 9:29:04 GMT
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 30, 2022 9:37:18 GMT
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Post by thomas on Oct 30, 2022 9:59:40 GMT
and yet in latest scottish subsample , heres what the people think of labour and keir starmer...
Keir Starmer's poor personal ratings could be the Tories' get out of jail free card
The datasets from the GB-wide YouGov poll I mentioned earlier are now available, and there are two little nuggets of interest. Firstly, the Scottish subsample is much more 'normal' looking than many we've seen of late, with Labour back down to the mid-20s, and with the SNP enjoying a commanding lead. That may be a fluke caused by the small sample size, but it's an intriguing straw in the wind nonetheless.
Scottish subsample: SNP 46%, Labour 25%, Conservatives 19%, Liberal Democrats 5%, Greens 3%, Reform UK 1%
And secondly, Keir Starmer's GB-wide personal ratings in direct comparison to Rishi Sunak are astonishingly underwhelming in the context of Labour's mammoth lead over the Tories.
Which of the following do you think would make the best Prime Minister? Keir Starmer 34% Rishi Sunak 30%
I said earlier that I thought we were now in a 1992-97 type scenario where we're just waiting for an inevitable Labour general election victory. But those personal ratings might just give me pause for thought, because Tony Blair, and even John Smith for that matter, didn't generally find themselves in a virtual tie with John Major on personal popularity.
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Post by thomas on Oct 30, 2022 10:03:05 GMT
LMFAO. Your own link backs up my comments about how knife crime has decreased since 2004/05 when labour were in charge of scotland to the low point in 2018 under the snp goivernment...
i quote....
He added: “Over more than a decade we have seen a substantial decrease in violence. One of the clearest measures of this is the number of homicides in Scotland.
These have decreased from a peak in 2004/5 of 137 lives lost to 59 in 2017/18. That’s the joint-lowest figure since 1976.
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Post by thomas on Oct 30, 2022 10:06:17 GMT
heres even labour mayor saddo khan copying the snp in glasgow to try and reduce london knife crime under labour...
Last year London Mayor Sadiq Khan set up his own Violence Reduction Unit.
He said he had “learned lessons” from how the Scots scheme “delivered large reductions in violence” — especially in Glasgow.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery lefty.
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 30, 2022 10:23:22 GMT
Yes there no denying that knife crime decreased but its rising again .
Just like knife crime in England has dramatically increase under the conservative government.
And wales under labour governance is the lowest rate for knife crime
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Post by thomas on Oct 30, 2022 10:28:34 GMT
Yes there no denying that knife crime decreased but its rising again . Just like knife crime in England has dramatically increase under the conservative government. And wales under labour governance is the lowest rate for knife crime Sure , there will always be small fluctuations , and many people are talking about the effects of lockdown on mental health etc etc, but the overall crime trends are way below what labour had them during their inglorious reign as rulers of scotland , and when you look at the uk as a whole , the crime hospots unsurprisngly are often labour run fiefdoms.
You cant trust labour clearly over law and order. As your own links reveal.....
The area of Wales which is one of the most violent places in the UK
Figures show that North Wales has one of the highest rates of violent crime per 1,000 people in the UK
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 30, 2022 10:31:40 GMT
Urm yes north wales might have 8ne of the highest rate ot crime but that doesn't discount Wales has a lower crime rate.
Oh by the way conservative controlled kent has a higher rate of crime then London.
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Post by borchester on Oct 30, 2022 10:37:57 GMT
Which won't bother Tommy. He is supports Alba and loathes Ms Sturgeon with a passion.
The figures for knife crime seem to run at 1 in every 2000.
I have more chance of cutting myself on the Sunday joint.
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Post by thomas on Oct 30, 2022 10:38:06 GMT
Yes there no denying that knife crime decreased but its rising again . Just like knife crime in England has dramatically increase under the conservative government. And wales under labour governance is the lowest rate for knife crime The majority of what you say in defence of labour seems at odds with reality.In one of the below articles , a welsh labour mp was even calling for help from the uk tory government rising knife crime was that bad in wales....
The alarming rise of knife crime in Wales and exactly what is being done about it
Young lives are being cut short by knife crime across Wales. We've looked at the causes of Wales' growing knife crime problem and what the authorities are doing
Knife crime: Cardiff stabbings prompt government help call from MP
Knife crime has risen to record levels in Wales - with half of incidents in 2018 in the south Wales force area - and Ms Stevens, the Cardiff Central Labour MP, wants help to tackle the problem from the Conservative UK government.
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