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Post by patman post on Jul 19, 2023 15:15:57 GMT
Susan Hall is the Tory candidate for mayor.
Everyone has heard of Sadiq Khan — but who has heard of Susan Hall?
A short while ago, the current mayor’s uselessness and posturing would have lost him the race against any reasonably known and personable opponent. Now it looks like another term of unremarkable mayoralty is his for the taking against an unknown. London is mostly Labour, but the Boris years showed they can be wooed away from party — and Boris wasn’t a bad mayor, I mean he didn’t actually fuck stuff up.
Khan on the other hand has snarled up local traffic, caused traffic hotspots, and created isolated enclaves because of his pandering to ignorant populist Greenies. The guy might be sincere, but he appears to lack the ability to reason for himself.
So it’s now Susan whatsername as the Tory hope…
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 19, 2023 16:04:36 GMT
I think that ULEZ is going to fuck Labour in London. Khan has kicked his core voters, the poorest, in the nuts and the rest of us aren't keen to be surveilled everywhere we go.
The Tories only need to say "No to ULEZ" and they're home and dry. If they can't manage that, they don't deserve to run a whelk stall.
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Post by patman post on Jul 19, 2023 18:30:04 GMT
I like whelks, but they’re difficult to find in London.
But it’s only the outer boroughs that seem to be complaining about Ulez, so I don’t think it’ll bring that many votes.
Campaign against the blanket 20mph speed limits on major roads, and the ridiculous road closures, and I reckon the Tories could have the edge, even though the majority of London is Labour…
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 19, 2023 18:57:40 GMT
Yes but the outer boroughs are where most voters actually live.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 19, 2023 21:16:06 GMT
It's only the outer Boroughs where people actually eat Whelks.... thats where the real Londoners have migrated to. Apart from those that have escaped to Essex...
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Post by borchester on Jul 19, 2023 21:26:42 GMT
With the exception of outliers such as Boris Johnson, the Tories never had London.
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Post by Handyman on Jul 20, 2023 7:46:26 GMT
Susan Hall is the Tory candidate for mayor. Everyone has heard of Sadiq Khan — but who has heard of Susan Hall? A short while ago, the current mayor’s uselessness and posturing would have lost him the race against any reasonably known and personable opponent. Now it looks like another term of unremarkable mayoralty is his for the taking against an unknown. London is mostly Labour, but the Boris years showed they can be wooed away from party — and Boris wasn’t a bad mayor, I mean he didn’t actually fuck stuff up. Khan on the other hand has snarled up local traffic, caused traffic hotspots, and created isolated enclaves because of his pandering to ignorant populist Greenies. The guy might be sincere, but he appears to lack the ability to reason for himself. So it’s now Susan whatsername as the Tory hope… I know her brothers Albert Hall, Bugger Hall and Fuck All, nice lads  |
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Post by Handyman on Jul 20, 2023 7:53:04 GMT
I think that ULEZ is going to fuck Labour in London. Khan has kicked his core voters, the poorest, in the nuts and the rest of us aren't keen to be surveilled everywhere we go. The Tories only need to say "No to ULEZ" and they're home and dry. If they can't manage that, they don't deserve to run a whelk stall. I think that Khan may struggle to stay in place due to his incompetence and trying to force ULEZ on all London Boroughs , but at the end of the day Labour controls the majority of the Boroughs |
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Post by dappy on Jul 20, 2023 8:58:51 GMT
Remember the Tories changed the voting system for the London Mayor back to a FPTP system from the previous more democratic transferrable vote system.
There will be some fringe candidates no doubt but if the real contest is between Khan and Hall, Khan will surely win. If however there were to be a left of centre third candidate seen as reasonably credible by the electorate (say Corbyn), who knows he could split Khan's vote and let the Tory through.
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Post by dappy on Jul 20, 2023 9:21:33 GMT
The nature of the campaign Hall is intending to run is already becoming clear. Its the good old Trumpian "infamy infamy they've all got it in for me" approach. They are today moaning that its not fair for london's newspaper to use a staged press shoot pose as it "makes her look silly". Shouldn't have struck the pose then Sarah....
As an aside looks like dear old Nigel is also following a (more sophisticated) infamy infamy campaign at present, strongly suggesting he is at least flirting with getting involved at the next election. Bless.
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Post by patman post on Jul 20, 2023 9:31:03 GMT
I think that ULEZ is going to fuck Labour in London. Khan has kicked his core voters, the poorest, in the nuts and the rest of us aren't keen to be surveilled everywhere we go. The Tories only need to say "No to ULEZ" and they're home and dry. If they can't manage that, they don't deserve to run a whelk stall. I think that Khan may struggle to stay in place due to his incompetence and trying to force ULEZ on all London Boroughs , but at the end of the day Labour controls the majority of the Boroughs Problem for us sensible people round here is the large number of earth-mother types and all-out vegan-greenies who only buy wooden bicycles, scooters and trikes for their offspring, support every road closure and parklet, and insist all local deliveries should be by pedal cycle — all without thinking any of this through. More unreasonably, some insist on transporting their children in dangerously modified bicycles which are difficult to control on a clear road but must be potentially lethal in traffic along the A10. If only we could clear out those useless Hackney councillors who guarantee their seats with blanket support for unreasoning Gaia types… |
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Post by Handyman on Jul 20, 2023 11:10:16 GMT
I think that Khan may struggle to stay in place due to his incompetence and trying to force ULEZ on all London Boroughs , but at the end of the day Labour controls the majority of the Boroughs Problem for us sensible people round here is the large number of earth-mother types and all-out vegan-greenies who only buy wooden bicycles, scooters and trikes for their offspring, support every road closure and parklet, and insist all local deliveries should be by pedal cycle — all without thinking any of this through. More unreasonably, some insist on transporting their children in dangerously modified bicycles which are difficult to control on a clear road but must be potentially lethal in traffic along the A10. If only we could clear out those useless Hackney councillors who guarantee their seats with blanket support for unreasoning Gaia types… There is only one way to remove them , don't vote for them if enough people don't they are gone, |
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Post by patman post on Jul 20, 2023 11:35:26 GMT
Problem for us sensible people round here is the large number of earth-mother types and all-out vegan-greenies who only buy wooden bicycles, scooters and trikes for their offspring, support every road closure and parklet, and insist all local deliveries should be by pedal cycle — all without thinking any of this through. More unreasonably, some insist on transporting their children in dangerously modified bicycles which are difficult to control on a clear road but must be potentially lethal in traffic along the A10. If only we could clear out those useless Hackney councillors who guarantee their seats with blanket support for unreasoning Gaia types… There is only one way to remove them , don't vote for them if enough people don't they are gone, Not so easy — enough people have to vote for an opponent before an incumbent can be removed, and Labour supporters probably make up 75% of the electorate around here. Most of them routinely tick the Labour box, plus mostly weird choices for any transferable option… |
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Post by Handyman on Jul 20, 2023 13:24:28 GMT
There is only one way to remove them , don't vote for them if enough people don't they are gone, Not so easy — enough people have to vote for an opponent before an incumbent can be removed, and Labour supporters probably make up 75% of the electorate around here. Most of them routinely tick the Labour box, plus mostly weird choices for any transferable option… Who would have thought that  it is normal practice when they hold any election the one with the most votes win, if you don't like the person or the party they represent you have to lump it or move |
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Post by patman post on Jul 20, 2023 15:00:32 GMT
Not so easy — enough people have to vote for an opponent before an incumbent can be removed, and Labour supporters probably make up 75% of the electorate around here. Most of them routinely tick the Labour box, plus mostly weird choices for any transferable option… Who would have thought that it is normal practice when they hold any election the one with the most votes win, if you don't like the person or the party they represent you have to lump it or move Not always necessary to move. Sometimes, local authorities can be persuaded of the error of their thinking (not that there’s too much of that on display in Hackney). Local groups can also gain concessions for their particular interests. But it becomes a struggle when every authority decision is initially couched in socialist language — even though councillors and officers obviously don’t understand the centrally-approved words and phrases they’re using… |
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it is normal practice when they hold any election the one with the most votes win, if you don't like the person or the party they represent you have to lump it or move