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Post by Vinny on Jul 12, 2023 15:18:55 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Jul 13, 2023 9:55:06 GMT
7,000 potentially harmful / very harmful substances, that the EU said they'd ban, continue to be allowed by the EU because lobbyists can influence the Commission but voters cannot.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 13, 2023 10:20:11 GMT
7,000 potentially harmful / very harmful substances, that the EU said they'd ban, continue to be allowed by the EU because lobbyists can influence the Commission but voters cannot. I was going to say the measures in the OP look sensible, and the one about one regulation process per chemical is probably for reasons of production efficiency to avoid problems where the chemical is a member of a class and a rule makes a rule for that class that may not be needed for all chemicals in the class, hence overly strict and wasteful. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 13, 2023 10:20:13 GMT
7,000 potentially harmful / very harmful substances, that the EU said they'd ban, continue to be allowed by the EU because lobbyists can influence the Commission but voters cannot. LOL! The 60% figure has really rattled Iggy. It goes without saying that the above is just another lie. European citizens can petition the Commission to propose a legal act. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Citizens%27_InitiativeThe European Citizens' Initiative (ECI) is a European Union (EU) mechanism aimed at increasing direct democracy by enabling "EU citizens to participate directly in the development of EU policies",[1] introduced with the Treaty of Lisbon in 2007. The initiative enables one million citizens of the European Union,[2] who are nationals of at least seven member states, to call directly on the European Commission to propose a legal act (notably a Directive or Regulation) in an area where the member states have conferred powers onto the EU level. This right to request the commission to initiate a legislative proposal puts citizens on the same footing as the European Parliament and the European Council, who enjoy this right according to Articles 225 and 241 TFEU, respectively. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 13, 2023 10:31:18 GMT
Thanks for boosting the thread and helping to show that the EU is shit.
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Post by wapentake on Jul 13, 2023 10:36:13 GMT
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 13, 2023 10:37:09 GMT
I just checked and this is the 10th anti-EU thread Vinny has started in this forum section already this month (there may be others elsewhere).
A Suitable Case for Treatment? It looks like a particularly chronic case of buyer's remorse which usually follows after buying a pig in a poke.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 13, 2023 10:44:23 GMT
I'm actually discussing the policies and practices of the EU rather than spamming this board with remoaning.
Do you have anything to say about the EU dropping the ban on 7000 substances they boasted they'd ban?
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Post by wapentake on Jul 13, 2023 10:44:31 GMT
I just checked and this is the 10th anti-EU thread Vinny has started in this forum section already this month (there may be others elsewhere). A Suitable Case for Treatment? It looks like a particularly chronic case of buyer's remorse which usually follows after buying a pig in a poke. Well like everyone you have the choice not to reply,having an opinion is what the forum is about isn’t it? People do have issues they concentrate on there’s nothing wrong with that. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 13, 2023 10:47:55 GMT
I'm more concerned about Vinny's deeply obsessional behaviour than I am about my own threshold of boredom.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 13, 2023 10:51:08 GMT
I'm actually discussing the policies and practices of the EU rather than spamming this board with remoaning. Do you have anything to say about the EU dropping the ban on 7000 substances they boasted they'd ban? No. It doesn't affect my life any more than it does yours.
Why not have a whinge instead about something closer to home, like the filthy state of England's rivers and coast?
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Post by Vinny on Jul 13, 2023 13:15:30 GMT
Speaking of our rivers:  Remember when rivers in Somerset burst their banks because EU policies had caused a situation where rivers were no longer dredged? All the sewage that spilled out? Do you think we should go back to that sort of arrangement Dan? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 13, 2023 17:41:16 GMT
I just checked and this is the 10th anti-EU thread Vinny has started in this forum section already this month (there may be others elsewhere). A Suitable Case for Treatment? It looks like a particularly chronic case of buyer's remorse which usually follows after buying a pig in a poke. Nonsense, there's nothing wrong with being anti EU. In fact, wasn't it our greatest ever hero Admiral Lord Nelson who said... ...You must consider every man your enemy who speaks ill of your king, and you must hate the EU as you hate the devil. I'm fairly sure that's accurate, more or less. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 13, 2023 20:51:01 GMT
Haha, I'm pretty sure it wasn't Red but gone on yer, it's all grist to the Brexiteer mill right? Whether it's true or not. After all it's all you've got to go on now the deed is done and you've got to live with the consequences.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 13, 2023 21:14:13 GMT
And so far the consequences are rather good.
£340 billion in exports to the EU last year.
£223.3 billion in exports to the EU in the last year before the referendum.
Above inflation sales.
Lower unemployment.
And taking inflation into account, higher GDP than before the referendum.
We'd be in recession now, if we had stayed in it.
We'd be paying £12,392,500,478.10 a year to be part of a political customs union in which we couldn't make our own laws on immigration, agriculture, fisheries, or industrial policy, and in which we couldn't set our own customs tariffs, or negotiate our own free trade agreements.
As for migrants who want to live in the EU, people still can. All they have to do is get visas.
Their desire to have free movement across the entire EU, to be an immigrant in any country they want, is not worth us paying £12,392,500,478.10 a year to the EU for.
And were were to go back, we'd be paying £23,480,527,221.66 as we wouldn't get a rebate.
And like before, businesses dumping us for cheaper countries, would resume.
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