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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 17, 2023 9:20:29 GMT
One of the reasons why British beef is rarely seen anywhere on the continent is because its reputation is still tainted by BSE. The same extends unfortunately to British agri-produce generally which is considered over-industrialised and is rarely found except in highly-processed, packaged form. Heinz baked beans or something we came across recently, 'Monterey Jack' processed cheese slices made in Nantwich. You'll only find such delicacies in the 'Angleterre' section at Carrefour which also offers lots of 'British' treats made in the USA like 'Old El Paso' brand tortillas and tacos for that authentic English tea-time.
If you ever left granny's basement Vinny you'd already know about all this and more.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 17, 2023 9:25:49 GMT
Dan, through the whole of the BSE crisis France and the other members had BSE in their own herds and they covered it up. www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/yes-we-had-mad-cow-disease-too-france-confesses-6927256.htmlAnd now that the EU has legalised the very same dodgy feed that caused the problem in the first place it's going to happen again over there. Except they won't be able to cover it up. We were punished for being honest. Enjoy your EU Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease burgers. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 17, 2023 9:29:18 GMT
Exactly. What's worse, not only being lectured by a bloody vegan on eating meat but this vegan wants UK consumers to pay higher prices for their meat from Europe. I'm not a vegan and yes I think you should pay more for meat raised in higher welfare standards. I also think you should eat less of it so we don't have to use 40% of our most productive farmland growing feed for livestock. We could grow food for humans instead and not have to import so much of it from Europe and elsewhere. Rubbish. EU farming promotes big farming rather than sustainability. EU welfare standards are no better than Australian welfare standards. They hide behind this faux placard in the name of protectionism. And most UK consumers wouldn't agree with you that they should have to pay more for arguably an inferior product because a veggie like you believes this to be so. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 17, 2023 9:30:40 GMT
Europe imports comparatively little beef from the UK. We have plenty of our own thanks. I have never in the years I have been here, seen any merchant selling beef, proudly advertise British beef. We prefer to eat locally produced food. Even large supermarkets use very local producers which are indicated on the fresh meat counter where you can have your meat cut the way you want. Again, thank you for demonstrating how useless the Single Market was for British farmers, never mind how costly it was for taxpayers. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 17, 2023 9:32:26 GMT
Another reason to be glad to be out.
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 17, 2023 9:37:03 GMT
We're talking about Australia which has abundant farmland. And yes, their meat is raised in the highest welfare standards, vets agree with their policies and practices. Regarding the EU, the eco nutters are putting the Dutch livestock business out of business so there will be a shortage of Dutch beef available in the market which Australia will make up for. They don't have abundant farmland. It's mostly desert which is why their cattle is fattened on feedlots. Their welfare standards are lower and they use hormones to undercut our beef. EU use mega-sized farming factories and feedlots. All Australian cattle are raised on grass and up to 60% of Australian cattle spend all their lives on farms. You've fallen for EU propaganda. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 17, 2023 9:38:15 GMT
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 17, 2023 9:39:38 GMT
I'm not a vegan and yes I think you should pay more for meat raised in higher welfare standards. I also think you should eat less of it so we don't have to use 40% of our most productive farmland growing feed for livestock. We could grow food for humans instead and not have to import so much of it from Europe and elsewhere. Rubbish. EU farming promotes big farming rather than sustainability. EU welfare standards are no better than Australian welfare standards. They hide behind this faux placard in the name of protectionism. And most UK consumers wouldn't agree with you that they should have to pay more for arguably an inferior product because a veggie like you believes this to be so. You are out of date. Subsidies based on production have been replaced with payments for things like hedgerows and wildlife corridors. We even get paid for a rare orchid which grows on the farm. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 17, 2023 9:40:30 GMT
Dan, through the whole of the BSE crisis France and the other members had BSE in their own herds and they covered it up. www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/yes-we-had-mad-cow-disease-too-france-confesses-6927256.htmlAnd now that the EU has legalised the very same dodgy feed that caused the problem in the first place it's going to happen again over there. Except they won't be able to cover it up. We were punished for being honest. Enjoy your EU Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease burgers. I think that one would prefer his foie gras. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 17, 2023 9:42:32 GMT
EU use mega-sized farming factories and feedlots. All Australian cattle are raised on grass and up to 60% of Australian cattle spend all their lives on farms. You've fallen for EU propaganda. I took the TGV last week from the South of France to Brussels. The area north of Lyon is Europe's largest cattle-raising area. I saw thousands of beef cattle, mostly Limousin or Charolais, all grazing in green fields with nary a factory in sight. And certainly no feedlots - they're not necessary in western Europe.
Where have you seen these 'mega-sized farming factories and feedlots' in the EU?
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 17, 2023 9:46:38 GMT
Rubbish. EU farming promotes big farming rather than sustainability. EU welfare standards are no better than Australian welfare standards. They hide behind this faux placard in the name of protectionism. And most UK consumers wouldn't agree with you that they should have to pay more for arguably an inferior product because a veggie like you believes this to be so. You are out of date. Subsidies based on production have been replaced with payments for things like hedgerows and wildlife corridors. We even get paid for a rare orchid which grows on the farm. European farmers are drunk on the toxic subsidy that has harmed the environment and their ability to be self-sufficient businesses. I don't think fake green measures will dent "basic payments" for unsustainable practices. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 17, 2023 9:51:05 GMT
Dan, all these photos are of EU farms:   Do not try to pretend the EU is somehow morally superior, or hygienically superior.
It isn't.
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 17, 2023 9:52:07 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Jul 17, 2023 9:54:30 GMT
Well said.
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 17, 2023 9:55:23 GMT
All the more reason for you to become a French citizen then and stop whinging about the glory of Brexit. |
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