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Post by Pacifico on Jul 14, 2023 7:31:09 GMT
The UK has flatlined but the Eurozone is in recession. Expectation for higher rates comes as economic clouds loom over the eurozone. The bloc is already in a “technical recession”, with gross domestic product contracting by 0.1 percentage points in each of the past two quarters.
FTI cant access the site.i have no idea of the date or context. I note no comment on my two links.I agreed with the link - the UK is flatlining. But that is better than recession. So the claim that the EU is outgrowing the UK is rather weird.. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 14, 2023 7:34:29 GMT
What is the issue with transporting animals half way around the world to slaughter them? The EU is inhumane. Slaughter animals without ridiculously long journeys then transport the meat in refrigerated containers. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 14, 2023 8:04:02 GMT
I cant access the site.i have no idea of the date or context. I note no comment on my two links.I agreed with the link - the UK is flatlining. But that is better than recession. So the claim that the EU is outgrowing the UK is rather weird.. As is the comment that the EU is in recession while not referencing my links. GERMANY was briefly in recession because of its heavy reliance on Russian gas. The EU is far from recession. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 14, 2023 8:06:47 GMT
What is the issue with transporting animals half way around the world to slaughter them? The EU is inhumane. Slaughter animals without ridiculously long journeys then transport the meat in refrigerated containers. Then why are you supporting even more live animal transport half way around the world? |
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 14, 2023 8:13:29 GMT
What is the issue with transporting animals half way around the world to slaughter them? The EU is inhumane. Slaughter animals without ridiculously long journeys then transport the meat in refrigerated containers. The hashtag Vinny offers is about the policies of press and internet content supported by the Guardian as under UK and US law. OF COURSE THERE ARE MANY LIVE ANIMALS TRANSPORTED ACROSS BORDERS IN THE EU. There are 27 borders in the EU. Passeges could be as short as a couple of miles. NONE are of three weeks. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 14, 2023 8:17:38 GMT
Yes, well if you think the EU are going to get a trade deal that isn't reciprocal, and one all of its own way then you've got another thing coming with your the offer of an unlevel playing field. It is of no use to Australia. Plus, you get to pay more for your heavily subsidised beef. Lucky you! I never said the EU thinks it will get its own way. However there are some things which are non negotiable and one is the deliberate competitition from other nations which transport animals half way around the world to slaughter them. We have enough of our own thanks. If the UK wants to import animals which have spent 3 weeks confined on ships, and lower the income of its own farmers, then Australia has the right to laugh. That's why the EU's golden era of making trade deals is well and truly over. You're just left with expensive prices, and in the case of Aussie beef an inferior product. There's no laughing at you. Only pity for you based on that. You as a consumer are being robbed just to pay for inefficient farming. Enjoy. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 14, 2023 8:29:40 GMT
I never said the EU thinks it will get its own way. However there are some things which are non negotiable and one is the deliberate competitition from other nations which transport animals half way around the world to slaughter them. We have enough of our own thanks. If the UK wants to import animals which have spent 3 weeks confined on ships, and lower the income of its own farmers, then Australia has the right to laugh. That's why the EU's golden era of making trade deals is well and truly over. On you're left with expensive prices, and in the case of Aussie beef and inferior product. There's no laughing at you. Only pity for you based on that. You as a consumer are being robbed just to pay for inefficient farming. Enjoy. I see Bubbles is back full of burped air. I dont understand the phrase " golden era of making trade deals." The EU has agreements with half the number of countries in the world WHICH YOU ALSO STILL ENJOY. Of the rest some are unstable countries, some supported by Russia or China and some struggling to feed itself without being able to export to any meaningful degree, The EU trades when necessary via the WTO. I can also tell you that the market for Australian beef in the EU is tiny. We support our own product. Instead of discussing beef, be it known that Australia's major exports are minerals and wheat. Beef is not in the top 10 of its exports. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 14, 2023 8:48:59 GMT
Thanks for boosting the thread and showing how bad the EU is at doing trade deals.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 14, 2023 10:44:28 GMT
I agreed with the link - the UK is flatlining. But that is better than recession. So the claim that the EU is outgrowing the UK is rather weird.. As is the comment that the EU is in recession while not referencing my links. GERMANY was briefly in recession because of its heavy reliance on Russian gas. The EU is far from recession.Take it up with Eurostat if you dont like the way they measure the economy. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 14, 2023 11:15:32 GMT
That's why the EU's golden era of making trade deals is well and truly over. On you're left with expensive prices, and in the case of Aussie beef and inferior product. There's no laughing at you. Only pity for you based on that. You as a consumer are being robbed just to pay for inefficient farming. Enjoy. I see Bubbles is back full of burped air. I dont understand the phrase " golden era of making trade deals." The EU has agreements with half the number of countries in the world WHICH YOU ALSO STILL ENJOY. Of the rest some are unstable countries, some supported by Russia or China and some struggling to feed itself without being able to export to any meaningful degree, The EU trades when necessary via the WTO. I can also tell you that the market for Australian beef in the EU is tiny. We support our own product. Instead of discussing beef, be it known that Australia's major exports are minerals and wheat. Beef is not in the top 10 of its exports. If the market is tiny as you say, your negotiators wouldn't be as frightened (of French farming lobbyists), and as protectionist as they are of your very heavily subsidised agri-food products. Enjoy paying a higher price for an inferior product. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 14, 2023 11:18:36 GMT
As is the comment that the EU is in recession while not referencing my links. GERMANY was briefly in recession because of its heavy reliance on Russian gas. The EU is far from recession.Take it up with Eurostat if you dont like the way they measure the economy. Klueless Kim |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 14, 2023 11:27:08 GMT
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 14, 2023 11:28:53 GMT
As is the comment that the EU is in recession while not referencing my links. GERMANY was briefly in recession because of its heavy reliance on Russian gas. The EU is far from recession.Take it up with Eurostat if you dont like the way they measure the economy. The article makes it clear that the stats are an average of all the nations in the Eurozone. "Economic development in eurozone countries varied with Luxembourg achieving the strongest quarterly growth with 2.0% and Portugal with 1.6%. Sharp declines were registered in Ireland, with a drop of 4.6%, Lithuania was dow 2.1%, and Germany's quarterly GDP fell by 0.3%.". OTOH growth in the Eurozone outstrips the growth of the UK. "EU GDP growth is revised up to 1.0% in 2023 (from 0.8%) and 1.7% in 2024 (from 1.6%), virtually closing the gap with potential output by the end of the forecast horizon (see Special Issue I.4.1).May 15, 2023" economy-finance.ec.europa.eu › ... Spring 2023 Economic Forecast: an improved outlook amid persistent ... As opposed to: "Although the United Kingdom is expected to avoid a recession this year, the country faces a challenging economic outlook. The energy price shock due to Russia's war in Ukraine has disrupted the recovery, with growth projected at a modest 0.4 percent in 2023 and 1 percent in 2024.3 days ago" www.imf.org › 2023/07/11 United Kingdom's Long-Run Prosperity Hinges on Ambitious .... Look to your own. We're fine. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 14, 2023 12:19:31 GMT
Thanks for boosting this thread and showing how shit the EU are at doing trade deals.
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 14, 2023 12:28:29 GMT
Well my dear Iggy, the UK depends on them and i am told , doing well.
How about dumping all the trade deals you have thanks to the EU and renegotiating all 80 plus of them.
I mean you did so well with Australia...😂😂😵💫
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