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Post by Vinny on Jul 12, 2023 13:16:27 GMT
The EU Australia FTA talks officially fell down over agricultural produce.
Australia's farming industry is efficient and does not use subsidies.
The EU's is anything but efficient and is dependent on subsidies.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 12, 2023 17:08:40 GMT
Well that's fair enough, the EU is self-sufficient in everything Australia can sell it, except perhaps for macadamia nuts.
They (Australia) will do better out of their FTA with the UK which will become increasingly anxious about post-Brexit food security as its population explodes and more and more of the best agricultural land has to be taken out of production to house that population. We're looking at probably another 20 million by 2050 if current trends continue.
An EU-Australia FTA doesn't make much strategic sense anyway.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 12, 2023 17:10:45 GMT
If anywhere is losing agricultural land to politics, it's the EU, we see that in the Netherlands where the absurdist policies of the EU enacted by Mark Rutte have backfired like a giant fart into a flame and their arses have been well and truly burned.
And now, the absurdist EU has rejected a free trade agreement with Australia which would have cut food prices.
They're mental.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 12, 2023 17:25:55 GMT
The EU is more concerned with long-term security of supply rather than simply low prices today and then nothing tomorrow as is common practice in the UK. Have you forgotten the tomato famine already?   Hahaha. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 12, 2023 17:36:31 GMT
Well that nonsense was debunked at the time...
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Post by Vinny on Jul 12, 2023 17:54:57 GMT
Exactly, Brexit was not the reason for the shortages of tomatoes, there's no tariffs on EU tomatoes, no quotas, no barriers at all. The remoaners lied, and not for the first time. Bad weather in Spain and North Africa hit the crops reducing yields, and also the supermarkets wouldn't raise prices and sellers chose other businesses to sell to. I had no problem getting tomatoes from a farm shop during the alleged 'tomato famine'.  |
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 12, 2023 19:22:41 GMT
Once again the EU's one size fits none approach to trade agreements has failed. They could have done a lot to shed their protectionist bad image, but instead they've cemented it. Bilateral agreements are more flexible than the EU's shoddy methods. LOL! Australian news anchors literally laughing out loud at the trade deal struck with them: Australian news hosts left in hysterics over UK’s lack of Brexit benefits
If you don't laugh, you'll cry. The anchors on Channel 9 news have been having a good giggle at Brexit this week.www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/watch-australian-news-hosts-laugh-brexit-deal-video-350009/ |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 12, 2023 19:42:46 GMT
Exactly, Brexit was not the reason for the shortages of tomatoes, there's no tariffs on EU tomatoes, no quotas, no barriers at all. The remoaners lied, and not for the first time. Bad weather in Spain and North Africa hit the crops reducing yields, and also the supermarkets wouldn't raise prices and sellers chose other businesses to sell to. I had no problem getting tomatoes from a farm shop during the alleged 'tomato famine'. Let them eat cake eh. My local farmshop is extremely well provisioned and I don't care about you plebs having to scavenge for scraps in Tesco, Asda or wherever it is the hoi polloi source their mangel-wurzels.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 12, 2023 21:27:37 GMT
Good job Ireland never left the EU...  |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 13, 2023 5:49:19 GMT
Fuck all to do with Brexit Dan, and there were tomato shortages in Sweden and Denmark at the same time, because some supermarkets weren't paying enough for them, and with those countries in the EU, guess what? Your argument falls apart.
Also, we now have an FTA with Australia and they grow tomatoes.
We also have tomato growers, but high energy costs hit and heated greenhouses are expensive to run. That's Putin's fault, that's the impact of the war, not Brexit.
We discussed this at the time, your claims were shown to be false, don't compound your mistake.
You erroneously backed the EU, as did some of my friends.
I back free trade agreements with civilised countries including Australia.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 13, 2023 6:13:32 GMT
I'm sorry Vinny but your rantings about the EU and international affairs in general are so cartoonish that I just can't resist responding in kind:  |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 13, 2023 7:23:16 GMT
So our immigrant, European Europhile is now resorting to lazy lies. While captured with his tomatoes Macron's citizens captured his streets.   I suspect the French actually ran out of tomatoes to lob at Macron before desecrating their home with violence and rage. I wonder what their fellow 'citizens' in Portugal thought when they saw this happening to their own nation in France? haha |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 13, 2023 7:34:55 GMT
I'm as fond of a nice bit of invective as the next bloke, but it has to be original, amusing and above all witty.
Your effort rates an F on all counts. Must try harder.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 13, 2023 9:49:47 GMT
You were debunked months ago Dan, why cling to the lies?
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 13, 2023 13:57:30 GMT
Exactly, Brexit was not the reason for the shortages of tomatoes, there's no tariffs on EU tomatoes, no quotas, no barriers at all. The remoaners lied, and not for the first time. Bad weather in Spain and North Africa hit the crops reducing yields, and also the supermarkets wouldn't raise prices and sellers chose other businesses to sell to. I had no problem getting tomatoes from a farm shop during the alleged 'tomato famine'. Just been shopping. 99 cents per kilo for beautiful firm vine tomatoes. Stuffed with lovely French beef bought at the local boucherie, one can celebrate Bastille Day in liberty, equality, fraternity and bonne cuisine. |
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