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Post by dappy on Jul 10, 2023 9:26:48 GMT
The murder of Kriss Donald was indeed horrific.
Who exactly are you saying should not be in this country - it reads as all black people. Is that what you are saying?
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Post by dappy on Jul 10, 2023 14:18:54 GMT
You seem to have missed the question Red.
I have bumped the thread.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 10, 2023 14:38:58 GMT
The murder of Kriss Donald was indeed horrific. Who exactly are you saying should not be in this country - it reads as all black people. Is that what you are saying? You mentioned black people, not me. You're comming across as a bit of a racist tbh Dappy. |
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Post by dappy on Jul 10, 2023 14:42:44 GMT
Fair enough. Perhaps I misunderstood.
Who were you referring too when you said "Their only concern is to appease an aggressive minority who consistently refuse to integrate and should not be in this country."
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Post by patman post on Jul 10, 2023 14:43:07 GMT
I also remember during the Brixton riots of the 80s a young moped driver was pulled off his bike and beaten to death, never mentioned again. I recall a site that brought up white murders by Blacks and Asians and they had over a 100 not sure they were all that simple yet I too think the ongoing Lawrence charade is a bit too much as it seems so one sided. Remember Kris Donald? He was a 15 year old school boy who was kidnapped by a gang of Pakistanis in Glasgow. They tortured him, tied him up poured petrol over him and burnt him alive. It was an horrendous murder, but it's never mentioned. Next year is the 20th anniversary Kriss Donald's death, will the BBC mention it? Ha, not a chance. Their only concern is to appease an aggressive minority who consistently refuse to integrate and should not be in this country. Kris Donald's killers were caught, tried and convicted in under three years, even though it meant chasing a couple to Pakistan — which is as it should have been.
No such effort in chasing Stephen Lawrence's killers.
Stephen Lawrence was murdered in 1993. Nineteen years later, only two people were convicted and Police corruption and mishandling is still unresolved 30 years later...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2023 14:58:04 GMT
It's the story of Jesus.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 10, 2023 14:59:31 GMT
Remember Kris Donald? He was a 15 year old school boy who was kidnapped by a gang of Pakistanis in Glasgow. They tortured him, tied him up poured petrol over him and burnt him alive. It was an horrendous murder, but it's never mentioned. Next year is the 20th anniversary Kriss Donald's death, will the BBC mention it? Ha, not a chance. Their only concern is to appease an aggressive minority who consistently refuse to integrate and should not be in this country. Kris Donald's killers were caught, tried and convicted in under three years, even though it meant chasing a couple to Pakistan — which is as it should have been.
No such effort in chasing Stephen Lawrence's killers.
Stephen Lawrence was murdered in 1993. Nineteen years later, only two people were convicted and Police corruption and mishandling is still unresolved 30 years later...
Ref the BBC's coverage of Kriss Donald's kidnap, torture and horrific murder. Courtesy of Wiki: The BBC has been criticised because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself. Although admitting that the BBC had "got it wrong", the organisation's Head of Newsgathering, Fran Unsworth, largely rejected the suggestion that Donald's race played a part in the lack of reportage, instead claiming it was mostly a product of "Scottish blindness". In preference to reporting the verdict the BBC found the time to report the opening of a new arts centre in Gateshead in its running order. The BBC again faced criticisms for its failure to cover the second trial in its main bulletins, waiting until day 18 to mention the issue, on this occasion Peter Horrocks of the BBC apologised for the BBC's further failings. Peter Fahy, spokesman of race issues for the Association of Chief Police Officers, said that "it was a fact that it was harder to get the media interested where murder victims were young white men". A March 2004 an article in The Scotsman newspaper alleged a lack of response by authorities to concerns of rising racial tensions and that Strathclyde Police had felt pressured to abandon Operation Gather, an investigation into Asian gangs in the area, for fear of offending ethnic minorities. [Sounds familiar] In a January 2005 interview with a Scottish newspaper, prominent Pakistani Glaswegian Bashir Maan claimed that "fear and intimidation" had allowed problems with Asian gangs in some parts of the city to go unchecked. The article also quoted a former senior Strathclyde police officer who criticised "a culture of political correctness" which had allowed gang crime to "grow unfettered". Pat, you know perfectly well that if Kriss Donald had been Asian or black, and murdered by a white gang, the BBC would have regarded him as another Stephen Lawrence and spent the next twenty years shoving it down our throats. |
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Post by dappy on Jul 10, 2023 15:38:37 GMT
Seems like Red is evading the question who exactly he was referring too when he said
"Their only concern is to appease an aggressive minority who consistently refuse to integrate and should not be in this country."
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Post by sandypine on Jul 10, 2023 16:39:44 GMT
Remember Kris Donald? He was a 15 year old school boy who was kidnapped by a gang of Pakistanis in Glasgow. They tortured him, tied him up poured petrol over him and burnt him alive. It was an horrendous murder, but it's never mentioned. Next year is the 20th anniversary Kriss Donald's death, will the BBC mention it? Ha, not a chance. Their only concern is to appease an aggressive minority who consistently refuse to integrate and should not be in this country. Kris Donald's killers were caught, tried and convicted in under three years, even though it meant chasing a couple to Pakistan — which is as it should have been.
No such effort in chasing Stephen Lawrence's killers.
Stephen Lawrence was murdered in 1993. Nineteen years later, only two people were convicted and Police corruption and mishandling is still unresolved 30 years later...
Keith Blakelock's killers were never found, in fact a Community leader said the police got bloody good hiding the day after Blakelock was hacked to death. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 10, 2023 17:22:52 GMT
The 'community leader' in question was the future MP Bernie Grant. Clearly the remarks about the police getting a good hiding resonated strongly with local voters
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Post by patman post on Jul 10, 2023 18:03:45 GMT
Kris Donald's killers were caught, tried and convicted in under three years, even though it meant chasing a couple to Pakistan — which is as it should have been.
No such effort in chasing Stephen Lawrence's killers.
Stephen Lawrence was murdered in 1993. Nineteen years later, only two people were convicted and Police corruption and mishandling is still unresolved 30 years later...
Ref the BBC's coverage of Kriss Donald's kidnap, torture and horrific murder. Courtesy of Wiki: The BBC has been criticised because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself. Although admitting that the BBC had "got it wrong", the organisation's Head of Newsgathering, Fran Unsworth, largely rejected the suggestion that Donald's race played a part in the lack of reportage, instead claiming it was mostly a product of "Scottish blindness". In preference to reporting the verdict the BBC found the time to report the opening of a new arts centre in Gateshead in its running order. The BBC again faced criticisms for its failure to cover the second trial in its main bulletins, waiting until day 18 to mention the issue, on this occasion Peter Horrocks of the BBC apologised for the BBC's further failings. Peter Fahy, spokesman of race issues for the Association of Chief Police Officers, said that "it was a fact that it was harder to get the media interested where murder victims were young white men". A March 2004 an article in The Scotsman newspaper alleged a lack of response by authorities to concerns of rising racial tensions and that Strathclyde Police had felt pressured to abandon Operation Gather, an investigation into Asian gangs in the area, for fear of offending ethnic minorities. [Sounds familiar] In a January 2005 interview with a Scottish newspaper, prominent Pakistani Glaswegian Bashir Maan claimed that "fear and intimidation" had allowed problems with Asian gangs in some parts of the city to go unchecked. The article also quoted a former senior Strathclyde police officer who criticised "a culture of political correctness" which had allowed gang crime to "grow unfettered". Pat, you know perfectly well that if Kriss Donald had been Asian or black, and murdered by a white gang, the BBC would have regarded him as another Stephen Lawrence and spent the next twenty years shoving it down our throats. Face it — that’s all blah blah blah to justify a totally inequitable racist position by the establishment. Kriss Donald’s killers were pursued to the Asian subcontinent and the case was done and dusted in three years. Case closed. Stephen Lawrence’s killing was regarded by Police as just another Black Kid into drugs, probably a bit mouthy, and got what he deserved. When local Police became aware of the identities of his killers, favours may have been called in, and murderers were on the streets under Police protection for years. When a judge reported that the Police showed racism and prejudice and probably more, news outlets carried the findings. Some thirty years after his murder, some Stephen Lawrence killers are still at large. Biased and racist Police currently face no charges. These are items of interest and, new evidence continues to be uncovered. So unlike the Kriss Donald case where nobody culpable is still free, there are still facets of the Stephen Lawrence case worthy of investigation.. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 10, 2023 22:28:55 GMT
Ref the BBC's coverage of Kriss Donald's kidnap, torture and horrific murder. Courtesy of Wiki: The BBC has been criticised because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself. Although admitting that the BBC had "got it wrong", the organisation's Head of Newsgathering, Fran Unsworth, largely rejected the suggestion that Donald's race played a part in the lack of reportage, instead claiming it was mostly a product of "Scottish blindness". In preference to reporting the verdict the BBC found the time to report the opening of a new arts centre in Gateshead in its running order. The BBC again faced criticisms for its failure to cover the second trial in its main bulletins, waiting until day 18 to mention the issue, on this occasion Peter Horrocks of the BBC apologised for the BBC's further failings. Peter Fahy, spokesman of race issues for the Association of Chief Police Officers, said that "it was a fact that it was harder to get the media interested where murder victims were young white men". A March 2004 an article in The Scotsman newspaper alleged a lack of response by authorities to concerns of rising racial tensions and that Strathclyde Police had felt pressured to abandon Operation Gather, an investigation into Asian gangs in the area, for fear of offending ethnic minorities. [Sounds familiar] In a January 2005 interview with a Scottish newspaper, prominent Pakistani Glaswegian Bashir Maan claimed that "fear and intimidation" had allowed problems with Asian gangs in some parts of the city to go unchecked. The article also quoted a former senior Strathclyde police officer who criticised "a culture of political correctness" which had allowed gang crime to "grow unfettered". Pat, you know perfectly well that if Kriss Donald had been Asian or black, and murdered by a white gang, the BBC would have regarded him as another Stephen Lawrence and spent the next twenty years shoving it down our throats. Face it — that’s all blah blah blah to justify a totally inequitable racist position by the establishment. Kriss Donald’s killers were pursued to the Asian subcontinent and the case was done and dusted in three years. Case closed. Stephen Lawrence’s killing was regarded by Police as just another Black Kid into drugs, probably a bit mouthy, and got what he deserved. When local Police became aware of the identities of his killers, favours may have been called in, and murderers were on the streets under Police protection for years. When a judge reported that the Police showed racism and prejudice and probably more, news outlets carried the findings. Some thirty years after his murder, some Stephen Lawrence killers are still at large. Biased and racist Police currently face no charges. These are items of interest and, new evidence continues to be uncovered. So unlike the Kriss Donald case where nobody culpable is still free, there are still facets of the Stephen Lawrence case worthy of investigation.. We are expected to weep and bow for Stephen Lawrence for no other reason than he's black. His mother was made a Baroness because she's black. The BBC have for thirty years constantly reminded us of Stephen Lawrence, because he's black. Have you any idea, have you the slightest clue how many white people have been murdered by black people since Stephen Lawrence was killed? Obviously, it's a rhetorical question. That sort of data collection is racist. |
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Post by zanygame on Jul 11, 2023 6:23:06 GMT
I also remember during the Brixton riots of the 80s a young moped driver was pulled off his bike and beaten to death, never mentioned again. I recall a site that brought up white murders by Blacks and Asians and they had over a 100 not sure they were all that simple yet I too think the ongoing Lawrence charade is a bit too much as it seems so one sided. Remember Kris Donald? He was a 15 year old school boy who was kidnapped by a gang of Pakistanis in Glasgow. They tortured him, tied him up poured petrol over him and burnt him alive. It was an horrendous murder, but it's never mentioned. Next year is the 20th anniversary Kriss Donald's death, will the BBC mention it? Ha, not a chance. Their only concern is to appease an aggressive minority who consistently refuse to integrate and should not be in this country. Not sure why you want these terrible events remembered annually. Do you want a Fred West day as well? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 11, 2023 6:29:41 GMT
The murder of Kriss Donald was indeed horrific. Who exactly are you saying should not be in this country - it reads as all black people. Is that what you are saying? No it doesn't. Perhaps you should learn to read. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 11, 2023 6:32:25 GMT
Remember Kris Donald? He was a 15 year old school boy who was kidnapped by a gang of Pakistanis in Glasgow. They tortured him, tied him up poured petrol over him and burnt him alive. It was an horrendous murder, but it's never mentioned. Next year is the 20th anniversary Kriss Donald's death, will the BBC mention it? Ha, not a chance. Their only concern is to appease an aggressive minority who consistently refuse to integrate and should not be in this country. Not sure why you want these terrible events remembered annually. Do you want a Fred West day as well? Well we already have a George Floyd Day - perhaps the calendar is getting a bit full. |
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