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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 7, 2023 19:47:58 GMT
Yesterday (July 6) Starmer agreed with an audience who criticised Khan's Ulez plans. Today on LBC he agreed with Khans Ulez plans.
At least he is consistent, few people know what he stands for because he refuses to get off the fence.
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Post by jonksy on Jul 7, 2023 20:01:18 GMT
Yesterday (July 6) Starmer agreed with an audience who criticised Khan's Ulez plans. Today on LBC he agreed with Khans Ulez plans. At least he is consistent, few people know what he stands for because he refuses to get off the fence.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 7, 2023 20:14:47 GMT
Yes, but it is you who is questioning his reasons for doing so. Why do you avoid answering the points I put to you? ZG, lest not be silly. The only reason Starmer in 2021 said a Labour government would spend £28 billion a year on a green revolution was to grab headlines and get the green lobby on board. He now realises he has a good chance of having to put that policy into practice, he also knows it's totally unaffordable, so he's getting it out there well before the election that his 'green revolution' is in fact another U turn. Who knew. That is your opinion. How about the Tories doing a U-turn on their net zero commitments? Is it OK for them to U-turn.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 7, 2023 20:18:45 GMT
ZG, lest not be silly. The only reason Starmer in 2021 said a Labour government would spend £28 billion a year on a green revolution was to grab headlines and get the green lobby on board. He now realises he has a good chance of having to put that policy into practice, he also knows it's totally unaffordable, so he's getting it out there well before the election that his 'green revolution' is in fact another U turn. Who knew. That is your opinion. How about the Tories doing a U-turn on their net zero commitments? Is it OK for them to U-turn. ZG, I'm faced with a choice - drive down to ZG Towers and duff you up. Or, withdraw gracefully. Since you're a decent fellow I choose the latter.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 7, 2023 20:26:07 GMT
That is your opinion. How about the Tories doing a U-turn on their net zero commitments? Is it OK for them to U-turn. ZG, I'm faced with a choice - drive down to ZG Towers and duff you up. Or, withdraw gracefully. Since you're a decent fellow I choose the latter. I'd set the dogs and the butler on you as a scallywag, only I know you're a good sort yourself. So I'd fetch you a beer and enjoy the evening sunshine on the terrace.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 7, 2023 20:49:02 GMT
ZG, I'm faced with a choice - drive down to ZG Towers and duff you up. Or, withdraw gracefully. Since you're a decent fellow I choose the latter. I'd set the dogs and the butler on you as a scallywag, only I know you're a good sort yourself. So I'd fetch you a beer and enjoy the evening sunlight on the terrace. You could do both.👍
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 7, 2023 21:19:12 GMT
I'd set the dogs and the butler on you as a scallywag, only I know you're a good sort yourself. So I'd fetch you a beer and enjoy the evening sunlight on the terrace. You could do both.👍 LOL.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 8, 2023 12:19:21 GMT
Is this a sign that Starmer is getting serious about winning the next election. In 2021 he pledged to spend £28 billion a year on a 'green revolution' however, he seems to be backtracking on that particular pledge largely because he knows it's unaffordable. Senior party sources said existing capital spending projects are under review, as the party tries to convince the electorate it can be trusted with the economy. Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor, performed a major U-turn last week as she announced a Labour government would not borrow £28 billion each year of the next parliament to pay for green energy policies. linkEven Labour seem to have accepted the reality that is expensive and unreliable 'green' energy. What has happened is the dimwits thought it was a good idea, made it into a policy, sold the policy and then took professional advice, rather than taking professional advice first in the process. It would not be a good look if the capital markets took the same view of Starmer as they did Truss.
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Post by borchester on Jul 17, 2023 16:20:55 GMT
Is this a sign that Starmer is getting serious about winning the next election. In 2021 he pledged to spend £28 billion a year on a 'green revolution' however, he seems to be backtracking on that particular pledge largely because he knows it's unaffordable. Senior party sources said existing capital spending projects are under review, as the party tries to convince the electorate it can be trusted with the economy. Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor, performed a major U-turn last week as she announced a Labour government would not borrow £28 billion each year of the next parliament to pay for green energy policies. linkEven Labour seem to have accepted the reality that is expensive and unreliable 'green' energy. More to the point, I imagine that the Labour Party has realised that, apart from the usual tree huggers providing headlines on a slow news day, no one gives a toss about a green revolution
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 17, 2023 16:33:22 GMT
Is this a sign that Starmer is getting serious about winning the next election. In 2021 he pledged to spend £28 billion a year on a 'green revolution' however, he seems to be backtracking on that particular pledge largely because he knows it's unaffordable. Senior party sources said existing capital spending projects are under review, as the party tries to convince the electorate it can be trusted with the economy. Rachel Reeves, the shadow chancellor, performed a major U-turn last week as she announced a Labour government would not borrow £28 billion each year of the next parliament to pay for green energy policies. linkEven Labour seem to have accepted the reality that is expensive and unreliable 'green' energy. More to the point, I imagine that the Labour Party has realised that, apart from the usual tree huggers providing headlines on a slow news day, no one gives a toss about a green revolution Undoubtedly true Borchester. It may get to the point where there's violent protest against the so called green revolution. People are struggling now, how much further can they be pushed. The government will be very aware that winter is only a few months away when people want cheap reliable heating, they also know it wont be provided by wind and solar.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 19:48:04 GMT
When Keir Starmer first proposed The £28 Billion Green Revolution, interest rates were One Quarter of 1%
Since that time interest rates have risen THIRTEEN TIMES to todays figure of 5%, borrowing prices have risen sharply, and any proposal which involves borrowing must be reviewed to reflect the vastly changed borrowing landscape.
As the world today burns, and as North Sea oil runs out and energy security has never been more insecure, we have no choice but to turn more and more to sustainable and renewable energy which is produced here in Britain, a fact which is accepted by both the main political partys.
The Green Revolution - As proposed by the Labour leader HAS NOT BEEN ABANDONED, it has been amended and curtailed due to a very different economic climate.
I bet that if the Labour leader had not curtailed borrowing plans to fund The Green Revolution, the usual suspects would be here pointing out how Labours proposals were reckless.
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