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Post by Pacifico on Jul 1, 2023 6:37:30 GMT
Perfection is not achievable.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 1, 2023 9:08:31 GMT
Wages compared to abroad. Taxes compared to abroad. The value of our currency compared to the value of foreign currency. Heavy customs tariffs on goods from countries we don't have FTAs with. Energy costs, including 'green taxes'. yes. In short the real question is how long must the person making whatever they make must work to earn the money to buy it. I think much of what we import could not be made in this country at any price because of our insane housing costs, energy costs and business premises costs. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 1, 2023 10:41:20 GMT
Friends in business tell me that it's mainly wages that determine the cost of doing business.
But again, everything feeds into everything else and, as someone said above, it's how long one has to work to afford item x that's the real determinant of relative cost.
I remember going to Greece and Spain pre-Euro and it was cheap but that's only because of the value of the £ vs the peseta and drachma. It wasn't cheap for the average Greek or Spaniard with their, at the time, much lower wages.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 1, 2023 10:57:14 GMT
Impose sanctions on China, ban cheap tat. Kenny Everett used to take the piss out of people ike you. They had this US general figure and every problem was solved in his mind by:
Round em up Put em in a field And bomb the bastards
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Post by Vinny on Jul 1, 2023 11:00:22 GMT
Nah, just impose sanctions, diplomatic pressure, support pro democracy groups, and support Taiwan.
What worked in Poland in the 80's could work in China, and the Commie bastards know it.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 1, 2023 11:14:39 GMT
Poor management. If each load is approved or rejected BEFORE it is delivered, you know not yo send the rejected ones. Someone should be phoning or communicating ahead days before to be given a pass or not. Further, it looked to me as if the routes taken were through small built up areas. Surely companies should locate themselves near main roads, motorways etc, to ease local traffic and access to delivery points. Finally it is usual that a contract has taken transport costs into account already, and written contingency clauses in too such as delays due to accidents, weather, diversions etc. It's not a case of poor management, rather a case of no management. The most obvious thing in the world is to check everything is agreed before starting the process. To be a manager these days requires one to study for years at college. This problem is something you would learn when you are about five. As a kid do you remember phoning a friend and arranging to meet? You calculate how long it will take you to get around to your friend's house and check that they will be in at that time.
So in knowing this, let us get back to the example and lets wonder what was really going on in the manger's office. Do you think the manager should be taken into care because he or she is so incompetent that he or she would be unlikely to use a toilet successfully?
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Post by oracle75 on Jul 1, 2023 11:18:56 GMT
Poor management. If each load is approved or rejected BEFORE it is delivered, you know not yo send the rejected ones. Someone should be phoning or communicating ahead days before to be given a pass or not. Further, it looked to me as if the routes taken were through small built up areas. Surely companies should locate themselves near main roads, motorways etc, to ease local traffic and access to delivery points. Finally it is usual that a contract has taken transport costs into account already, and written contingency clauses in too such as delays due to accidents, weather, diversions etc. It's not a case of poor management, rather a case of no management. The most obvious thing in the world is to check everything is agreed before starting the process. To be a manager these days requires one to study for years at college. This problem is something you would learn when you are about five. As a kid do you remember phoning a friend and arranging to meet? You calculate how long it will take you to get around to your friend's house and check that they will be in at that time.
So in knowing this, let us get back to the example and lets wonder what was really going on in the manger's office. Do you think the manager should be taken into care because he or she is so incompetent that he or she would be unlikely to use a toilet successfully?
No. Do what usually happens and either retire him/her with lots of share options or put him/her on the Board of Directors. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 1, 2023 11:20:37 GMT
Wages compared to abroad. Taxes compared to abroad. The value of our currency compared to the value of foreign currency. Heavy customs tariffs on goods from countries we don't have FTAs with. Energy costs, including 'green taxes'. yes. In short the real question is how long must the person making whatever they make must work to earn the money to buy it. I think much of what we import could not be made in this country at any price because of our insane housing costs, energy costs and business premises costs. At least 8 hours longer in his case. First 8 hours of work yields zero value of services rendered, and if we were to analyse properly we would find it would be a negative value (fuel + wear on the lorry etc). If people got paid for the work they do he would have had a fair chunk of cash taken out of his account for that day's work. This is a capitalist's experience and why capitalists rarely fuck up or if they do, they only fuck up one time. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 1, 2023 12:32:40 GMT
yes. In short the real question is how long must the person making whatever they make must work to earn the money to buy it. I think much of what we import could not be made in this country at any price because of our insane housing costs, energy costs and business premises costs. At least 8 hours longer in his case. First 8 hours of work yields zero value of services rendered, and if we were to analyse properly we would find it would be a negative value (fuel + wear on the lorry etc). If people got paid for the work they do he would have had a fair chunk of cash taken out of his account for that day's work. This is a capitalist's experience and why capitalists rarely fuck up or if they do, they only fuck up one time. now that’s actually part of the problem. John Harvey Jones (yes i’m name dropping) told our group of a time when this chap was setting up a production line at an oil refinery to perform some process or other. Jones listened quietly with a colleague and then offered the advice ‘well yes that sounds good but when you get to this point … write me the solution you found to avoiding the process being killed off by side-production of ‘this’ because when i tried this with this chap (pointing to his guest) we wasted one and a half million on just such a prototype and not nowhere because the procss created loads of that, poisoning the catalysts … It strikes me that industry, at least the chemical and pharma industry in the UK when i was involved was utterly intolerant of failure whereas thecUSA had a far more forgiving attitude |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 3, 2023 10:19:43 GMT
At least 8 hours longer in his case. First 8 hours of work yields zero value of services rendered, and if we were to analyse properly we would find it would be a negative value (fuel + wear on the lorry etc). If people got paid for the work they do he would have had a fair chunk of cash taken out of his account for that day's work. This is a capitalist's experience and why capitalists rarely fuck up or if they do, they only fuck up one time. now that’s actually part of the problem. John Harvey Jones (yes i’m name dropping) told our group of a time when this chap was setting up a production line at an oil refinery to perform some process or other. Jones listened quietly with a colleague and then offered the advice ‘well yes that sounds good but when you get to this point … write me the solution you found to avoiding the process being killed off by side-production of ‘this’ because when i tried this with this chap (pointing to his guest) we wasted one and a half million on just such a prototype and not nowhere because the procss created loads of that, poisoning the catalysts … It strikes me that industry, at least the chemical and pharma industry in the UK when i was involved was utterly intolerant of failure whereas thecUSA had a far more forgiving attitude We can't possibly comment on that. This is not about by products of a chemical reaction but child's play to the competent. You talk about failure as if it is all one homogenous blob. We are generalising too much. This is about getting obvious stuff wrong. This s where the worker could do a better job if he had done the management bit himself. I call these managers fuckwits. They are guys who follow the advice of blondes in some vain attempt to get one's leg over. Blondes are never wrong for this reason. |
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