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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 29, 2023 18:59:09 GMT
Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg is about to start on GB News , I suspect he may have something to say the privileges committee.
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Post by dappy on Jun 29, 2023 19:31:33 GMT
Oh dear wapentake. You do know that the thread remains visible to all? If you look up the thread you will find that I have repeatedly answered your question. You will also see the question I asked you which you seem so keen to dodge. Not your finest hour perhaps? Ah the mud,perhaps he was expecting a fair hearing. And I ask would you be happy were you under investigation to be deemed guilty before the proceedings began? So what you are saying it seems is that Johnson was quite happy for Hartman to chair the committee until the committee unanimously found against him at which point he decided it was outrageous for Hartman to chair the committee. I think you have made my point for me. You seem to have asked me the same question again. I refer you to the answer I gave previously . |
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Post by wapentake on Jun 29, 2023 19:36:55 GMT
Ah the mud,perhaps he was expecting a fair hearing. And I ask would you be happy were you under investigation to be deemed guilty before the proceedings began? So what you are saying it seems is that Johnson was quite happy for Hartman to chair the committee until the committee unanimously found against him at which point he decided it was outrageous for Hartman to chair the committee. I think you have made my point for me. You seem to have asked me the same question again. I refer you to the answer I gave previously . Well I expect you know this thread is on public view,perhaps not your finest moment and I now know why posters dismissed you before I encountered you. Her name is Harman not Hartman and mine Wapentake not Watentake |
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Post by dappy on Jun 29, 2023 20:05:12 GMT
Perhaps time to stop digging now ?
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Post by wapentake on Jun 29, 2023 20:15:04 GMT
Perhaps time to stop digging now ? No it’s time I realise I would be better talking to the wall. |
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Post by dappy on Jun 29, 2023 20:20:44 GMT
Might be your level….
Different question if I may. I assume you now accept that Johnson’s political career is over. I presume too you would like to see the right wing of the Tory party prevail in the likely civil war post election. Assuming all retain their seats - who would you like to lead it? Mogg? Patel? Braverman? Badenoch? To be honest doesn’t feel an attractive bunch. Is there someone else I have forgotten?
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Post by wapentake on Jun 29, 2023 20:28:15 GMT
Might be your level…. Different question if I may. I assume you now accept that Johnson’s political career is over. I presume too you would like to see the right wing of the Tory party prevail in the likely civil war post election. Assuming all retain their seats - who would you like to lead it? Mogg? Patel? Braverman? Badenoch? To be honest doesn’t feel an attractive bunch. Is there someone else I have forgotten? I’m not a Tory not right wing and it’s not worth the effort of explaining why to you. Have a nice day. |
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Post by dappy on Jun 29, 2023 20:30:42 GMT
I didn’t ask you to explain why you hold the political opinions you do. Your right not to answer the question.
Perhaps someone else would like to in your place?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2023 20:42:28 GMT
Yet again the populist right show what an utter disgrace they are, rebelling, sneering and questioning due democratic process.
For those posters who accuse the committee of been some kind of Left wing stitch up, the committee consists of seven MPs, FOUR of which are Conservative, two of which are Labour and one SNP.
As per convention, the chairperson of such committee's are from the opposition, in this case Harriet Harman, a veteran MP who is respected on both sides of the house.
Usual tripe from excusers of Boris Johnson, HE did no wrong, the investigations and the investigators have got it all wrong - they just cannot accept The Truth,
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Post by wapentake on Jun 29, 2023 20:47:35 GMT
Yet again the populist right show what an utter disgrace they are, rebelling, sneering and questioning due democratic process. For those posters who accuse the committee of been some kind of Left wing stitch up, the committee consists of seven MPs, FOUR of which are Conservative, two of which are Labour and one SNP. As per convention, the chairperson of such committee's are from the opposition, in this case Harriet Harman, a veteran MP who is respected on both sides of the house. Usual tripe from excusers of Boris Johnson, HE did no wrong, the investigations and the investigators have got it all wrong - they just cannot accept The Truth, Not right wing,not a Tory but believe that finding someone guilty from the off is wrong,perhaps you don’t and can explain why and if you were the accused if you would be happy to be found guilty by the chair or a judge before proceedings started. Its not about right or left wing Tory or labour but fairness. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 29, 2023 21:02:19 GMT
Yet again the populist right show what an utter disgrace they are, rebelling, sneering and questioning due democratic process.
If people had not questioned the due democratic process we would not have votes for women and the US would still have slavery.. But carry on sid..  |
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Post by wapentake on Jun 29, 2023 21:37:53 GMT
Yet again the populist right show what an utter disgrace they are, rebelling, sneering and questioning due democratic process.
If people had not questioned the due democratic process we would not have votes for women and the US would still have slavery.. But carry on sid.. lol |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2023 6:01:32 GMT
Yet again the populist right show what an utter disgrace they are, rebelling, sneering and questioning due democratic process.
If people had not questioned the due democratic process we would not have votes for women and the US would still have slavery.. But carry on sid.. Questioning the process is fine but calling it a Kangaroo court is not. Questioning the process is fine but coming out on public media and accusing the committee of a witch-hunt is specifically designed to inject outrage in a certain section of the population. They should have presented any supporting evidence to the committee at the correct time and got involved with the process instead of sniping from the side-lines. Another question that I know you will not answer. Do you believe Boris Johnson lied? |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 30, 2023 6:35:03 GMT
If people had not questioned the due democratic process we would not have votes for women and the US would still have slavery.. But carry on sid.. Questioning the process is fine but calling it a Kangaroo court is not. Questioning the process is fine but coming out on public media and accusing the committee of a witch-hunt is specifically designed to inject outrage in a certain section of the population. They should have presented any supporting evidence to the committee at the correct time and got involved with the process instead of sniping from the side-lines. Another question that I know you will not answer. Do you believe Boris Johnson lied? Of course Johnson lies - but if you are going to hold that up as a barrier to being a politician then the House of Parliament is going to be deserted.. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 30, 2023 6:36:02 GMT
More kangaroos in this mornings paper.. "Yesterday, the committee published a second pompous report, this time castigating MPs including Nadine Dorries and Jacob Rees-Mogg for trying to prevent the inquiry “coming to a conclusion which its critics did not want”.
If it hops like a kangaroo court then maybe it is a kangaroo court, but if you suggest it is a kangaroo court the kangaroo court will convene another kangaroo court to find you guilty of calling it a kangaroo court. Double kanga!
Wait, that’s not all. The farce starts over on July 10th when the Commons debates this latest report. Potentially, the Opposition could table a motion and insist the censured MPs suffer a penalty and, following a vote, they might be suspended, even subject to by-elections. We could call them kangaroo by-elections, but that would be terribly wrong because no kangaroos were harmed in the making of this inquiry, although, if you ask me, democracy has definitely taken a bit of a dent.
“Free speech is at the heart of parliamentary democracy,” says the report, “However…”
“However” should never be used to qualify free speech, which is free or it is nothing. Unless, that is, you wish to silence critics who come to a conclusion you don’t want." |
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