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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 10:58:26 GMT
"This post is hidden" too, thank fuck. what sort of a clown has to post on a thread that the previous post is hiddent to him ? If you cant see it , ignore then FFS .
Sort of takes away the whole point of a debating forum to my mind ignoring posters you cant agree with. Perhaps you would be more suited to some sort of right wing brexiter jerk circle vinny , where you can all sit in the dark slapping each other on the back and pretending what a fine job brexiters have done.
If this is the way you and ned among others are behaving before the general election , i cant imagine the rivers of tears after it when starmer wins and gives you your eu citizenship back.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 24, 2023 10:59:54 GMT
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 24, 2023 11:01:29 GMT
"This post is hidden" Thank fuck for the iggy button. No problem, Vinny. I won't be posting the list again for some time, but I'll be sure to put it in the Mind Zone next time. The Mind Zone rules aren't clear cut, but I would imagine that it goes against the spirit of the Mind Zone to allow comments from someone who is not in a position to engage with the OP because he has original poster on ignore. I should have thought that having so many people on ignore will effectively exclude you from much of the Mind Zone. You'll be missed.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 11:07:45 GMT
"This post is hidden" Thank fuck for the iggy button. You'll be missed.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 11:13:02 GMT
What good news are you trying to convey vinny? That the uk , especially england , has a massive trade deficit , and has marginally increased trade with non eu countires , while valuable trade with eu countires has fallen from your own link?
Not content with refusing to debate posters on what is of course a debating forum , and putting everyone whose views you cant deal with on ignore , im not even sure you are reading your own links never mind evaluating the content .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 14:07:04 GMT
Copying and pasting reams of material has never been a good debating tactic. It just goes in the TLDR bin. i wsh i had a pound for every time you have said this on forums over the years. Try as you might ned , it doesnt shut down debate.
If you are bored reading about the fucking disaster that brexit has been , perhaps instead of reading the whole of darlings posts you could pick a point or two out from the start of the list to defend brexits corner?
Would that be a Scottish pound? I don't remember ever posting this on a forum. You just make stuff up. Shouldn't you be getting all the SNAT Memes out spamming the forum? That's what you love to do, eh, Tommy. I don't generally read Darling's posts, it requires an extra button click, which becomes rather tedious.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 14:23:14 GMT
i wsh i had a pound for every time you have said this on forums over the years. Try as you might ned , it doesnt shut down debate.
If you are bored reading about the fucking disaster that brexit has been , perhaps instead of reading the whole of darlings posts you could pick a point or two out from the start of the list to defend brexits corner?
Would that be a Scottish pound? I don't remember ever posting this on a forum. You just make stuff up. Shouldn't you be getting all the SNAT Memes out spamming the forum? That's what you love to do, eh, Tommy. I don't generally read Darling's posts, it requires an extra button click, which becomes rather tedious. isnt hypocrisy supposed to be a sin in your religions bible? I make stuff up ? the man who runs around making stuff up about others in desperation to divert debate now accusing others of doing the same is laughable.
have you never seen scottish banknotes ned?
you arent a moderator on here crushing deabte ned , and you dont run the forum . Thank fuck. Perhaps thats why its doing so well.
Remember how you used to ban people you couldnt agree with , or shut down whole sections of the forum because someone shockingly swore?
You are just an ordinary member on here , and you dont get to tell people what they can or cant post about , or shut down debate by pretending you are bored , or accuse people of stuff in your latest diversionary waffle.
i do. its one of your old time classics at stopping deabte with you poor attempt at sage advice in telling folk their posts are too long and boring and wont be read.
ive only been hearing the same thing from you since 2009 . It didnt stop people posting stuff you didnt like then , and it wont stop it now while we are giving out sage advice to forum members.
Darlings post was interesting .as we know though brexiters dont like fact or reality.
its a bit like the bible , living on blind faith and hope. i can see your appeal to brexit.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 14:26:31 GMT
Would that be a Scottish pound? I don't remember ever posting this on a forum. You just make stuff up. Shouldn't you be getting all the SNAT Memes out spamming the forum? That's what you love to do, eh, Tommy. I don't generally read Darling's posts, it requires an extra button click, which becomes rather tedious. isnt hypocrisy supposed to be a sin in your religions bible? I make stuff up ? the man who runs around making stuff up about others in desperation to divert debate now accusing others of doing the same is laughable.
have you never seen scottish banknotes ned?
you arent a moderator on here crushing deabte ned , and you dont run the forum . Thank fuck. Perhaps thats why its doing so well.
Remember how you used to ban people you couldnt agree with , or shut down whole sections of the forum because someone shockingly swore?
You are just an ordinary member on here , and you dont get to tell people what they can or cant post about , or shut down debate by pretending you are bored , or accuse people of stuff in your latest diversionary waffle.
i do. its one of your old time classics at stopping deabte with you poor attempt at sage advice in telling folk their posts are too long and boring and wont be read.
ive only been hearing the same thing from you since 2009 . It didnt stop people posting stuff you didnt like then , and it wont stop it now while we are giving out sage advice to forum members.
Darlings post was interesting .as we know though brexiters dont like fact or reality.
its a bit like the bible , living on blind faith and hope. i can see your appeal to brexit.
You should be called Aesop, not Thomas.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 24, 2023 14:27:35 GMT
I don't generally read Darling's posts, it requires an extra button click, which becomes rather tedious. Besides, you only converse with burning bushes and talking snakes, Ned.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 14:36:22 GMT
isnt hypocrisy supposed to be a sin in your religions bible? I make stuff up ? the man who runs around making stuff up about others in desperation to divert debate now accusing others of doing the same is laughable.
have you never seen scottish banknotes ned?
you arent a moderator on here crushing deabte ned , and you dont run the forum . Thank fuck. Perhaps thats why its doing so well.
Remember how you used to ban people you couldnt agree with , or shut down whole sections of the forum because someone shockingly swore?
You are just an ordinary member on here , and you dont get to tell people what they can or cant post about , or shut down debate by pretending you are bored , or accuse people of stuff in your latest diversionary waffle.
i do. its one of your old time classics at stopping deabte with you poor attempt at sage advice in telling folk their posts are too long and boring and wont be read.
ive only been hearing the same thing from you since 2009 . It didnt stop people posting stuff you didnt like then , and it wont stop it now while we are giving out sage advice to forum members.
Darlings post was interesting .as we know though brexiters dont like fact or reality.
its a bit like the bible , living on blind faith and hope. i can see your appeal to brexit.
You should be called Aesop, not Thomas. its as ever easier to deflect than face reality.
in many ways i appear to be a better christian than you are ned.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 14:39:14 GMT
You should be called Aesop, not Thomas. its as ever easier to deflect than face reality.
in many ways i appear to be a better christian than you are ned.
Really? Didn't realise you were a believer. Great news. It's not a competition, though, Aesop, we're all sinners.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 14:48:29 GMT
its as ever easier to deflect than face reality.
in many ways i appear to be a better christian than you are ned.
Really? Didn't realise you were a believer. Great news. It's not a competition, though, Aesop, we're all sinners. im not. My point is i seem to be able to follow the tenets of your relgion , like not telling porkie pies , hypocrisy , and all the rest unlike you true believers.
The man who demanded i dont call him barry now reduced to calling me names. Ive obviously touched a fucking raw nerve somewhere.
When steve handed on our old forum , he made the mistake of giving it to a man child with thin skin , who ran it down , and then in turn handed it over to an even fucking bigger man child with even thinner skin.
As i said , you can see how successfull forums can be with the right people in control and the right moderators , instead of someone trying to turn it into a fucking vicars tea party with polite words and nothing more strenuous than a slap on the back for fellow believers.
ive been called everything on these forums from a fenian bastard to the "c" word and much worse . I think aesop must be one of the most limp wristed names though ive ever been labelled.
Im crushed.
Debate carries on barry wether you want it to or not. Diversions and attempting to shut people down never works. still as they say , you cant teach an old dog new tricks eh?
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Post by sheepy on Jun 25, 2023 6:12:50 GMT
Brexit demise I wouldn't bet on it, we have a bag full of tricks for you Nazis at EU central yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 12:27:33 GMT
www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-damage-immigration-economy-boris-johnson-b2362966.htmlBrexit’s biggest crime? The £40bn wasted on liesIt’s not the constitutional damage of Brexit that really bothers me, says Femi Oluwole. It’s the endless lies and broken promises about the financial gains for Britain which, in the end, amounted to little more than a chaotic and bankrupt Tory vanity project This is an article about the broken promises of Brexit and the problems it creates for people in the UK every single day. If everything had gone as they told us it would, I wouldn’t be writing like this seven years on. Yet a busload of broken promises have stolen our future and devastated a generation. The anger of Generation Z and millennials like me has only increased over time. But I am most angry about every lie our country was forced to swallow. This month is the tipping point. There were three and a half years of chaos between the referendum and the December 2019 election. In that election, Boris Johnson promised to “Get Brexit Done”, “end the chaos” and “move on” from Brexit. As of this month, even more time has passed and the chaos is still going on. So instead of ending the chaos, they’ve now more than doubled it. Rishi Sunak just renegotiated the Northern Ireland part of the Brexit deal, and the DUP still won’t accept it. So Northern Ireland currently has no government because of Brexit. The government has delayed the start of checks on imports from the EU four times. They won’t start until next year. And two weeks ago, Boris Johnson blamed his departure on a Brexit rebellion among the same Tory MPs who made Brexit happen. The chaos of Brexit is far from done. They said we’d be £350m a week richer. But forget the number for a minute. Forget whether the money goes to the NHS. The simplest point of this promise was that, by no longer paying for EU membership, we would be richer as a country. It was a promise to millions of people who had just been financially suffocated by austerity for six years, that Brexit was the answer to their suffering. The great lie was that we were paying for EU membership without any financial gain from it. But the trade barriers created by leaving the single market have left one in five small businesses unable to trade with the EU, costing the UK roughly 4 per cent of our economy. That’s equivalent to £40 billion a year in tax revenue. That’s £40bn less for the government to spend on doctors, nurses, teachers, police, and it’s left the average household £1,000 poorer. They said Brexit would help the NHS. Yet the Nuffield Trust, the top medical charity in the UK, says Brexit is damaging the NHS by making medicines more expensive due to the trade barriers, and by slowing the recruitment of EU medical staff. A rapid intake of staff from the rest of the world has helped, but has still left gaping holes in specialist areas. For example, cardiothoracic surgeons had doubled in the five years leading to the referendum, but have seen almost no growth since. Doing this to our NHS during a pandemic is simply unforgivable. They said we’d take back control of immigration. Recent immigration levels are at their highest on record, and yet our economy is still crying out for more foreign workers. You’re wondering how that makes sense? Under the EU system of free movement, migration was largely about coming or going to countries to work. But the age profile and reduced number of work visas among new arrivals suggests that is no longer the case. According to the government’s official experts, the Office for Budget Responsibility, “the participation rate of migrants under the post-Brexit regime will be lower than in the past”. That doesn’t even address the huge damage done to the thousands of young Brits who would be working across Europe as hotel staff or touring musicians; those opportunities have simply disappeared since Brexit. They said we’d take back control of our laws. The government recently went back on its promise to scrap thousands of EU laws, after businesses warned that it would only increase the trade barriers that are already crippling them. Furthermore, the deal Boris Johnson signed in 2019 ties us to a level playing field with the EU on several issues of law. The deal lets the EU put tariffs on UK products if we don’t follow those rules, and thanks to Brexit, we no longer have a say in how those rules are implemented. They said we’d get cheaper food. Yet the Bank of England says Brexit has increased food prices by 6 per cent, during an international price crisis. And that really is the point. Leave the politicians to fight their ideological wars about sovereignty and European solidarity. But is Brexit helping the 49 per cent of low-income families that are skipping meals to feed their kids? Or is it making things worse?
Seven years on, it’s not the damage of Brexit that really bothers me. It’s what could have been done for struggling families, if all of this time and money hadn’t gone towards a Tory vanity project.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 26, 2023 12:35:31 GMT
UK exports are growing in value. Brexit is a success.
Fuck the bad loser fascist remoaners. We're never going back into the EU. Get over it racists.
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