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Post by zanygame on Jun 24, 2023 7:55:08 GMT
You don't know that, you just made it up to ignore current polls. I repeat, how high do the polls have to get before you believe they are worse considering? I do know that, because it has been proven time after time. While you rely on purely hope that they might be right this time. Proven? How was it proven. Most opinion is that many of those in favour or remaining didn't vote because they believed they would easily win. This is borne out by the percentages of voters by age group. But that was in 2016. We are now 7 years later and the polls ae very clear. Why do you want the people gagged?
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Post by sheepy on Jun 24, 2023 7:58:18 GMT
I do know that, because it has been proven time after time. While you rely on purely hope that they might be right this time. Proven? How was it proven. Most opinion is that many of those in favour didn't vote because they believed they would easily win. This is borne out by the percentages of voters by age group. But that was in 2016. We are now 7 years later and the polls ae very clear. Why do you want the people gagged? Proven by the fact, as I said, they said exactly the same things before the referendum, but they actually faced democracy that time and were wrong, now they are using them to manipulate political decisions yet again, we have returned to the same old ways. As you asked of course.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 24, 2023 8:50:06 GMT
I do know that, because it has been proven time after time. While you rely on purely hope that they might be right this time. Proven? How was it proven. Most opinion is that many of those in favour or remaining didn't vote because they believed they would easily win. This is borne out by the percentages of voters by age group. But that was in 2016. We are now 7 years later and the polls ae very clear. Why do you want the people gagged? I remember polls on the morning of the referendum predicting a clear and easy remain win. I went to the ballot box fully expecting to lose. But here we are.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 24, 2023 11:09:06 GMT
Proven? How was it proven. Most opinion is that many of those in favour or remaining didn't vote because they believed they would easily win. This is borne out by the percentages of voters by age group. But that was in 2016. We are now 7 years later and the polls ae very clear. Why do you want the people gagged? I remember polls on the morning of the referendum predicting a clear and easy remain win. I went to the ballot box fully expecting to lose. But here we are. I went to bed fully expecting to lose... So much for the polls
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 11:29:50 GMT
I remember polls on the morning of the referendum predicting a clear and easy remain win. I went to the ballot box fully expecting to lose. But here we are. I went to bed fully expecting to lose... So much for the polls I had every confidence in Leave winning. The establishment remainiacs were one of the worst people I had ever encountered. I just knew I wasn't alone.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 11:39:54 GMT
I went to bed fully expecting to lose... So much for the polls I had every confidence in Leave winning. The establishment remainiacs were one of the worst people I had ever encountered. I just knew I wasn't alone. Tory support collapses as Labour takes 25-point lead
Voters are blaming the government for inflation and interest rate rises
thats all you have left b4 , as ever , is a bit of navel gazing about a referendum years ago. Looks like the voting public have had enough of tory brexiters bullshit , and are about to hand the pro european starmer the reigns of power.
still , you can tell the grandkids you won a referendum in 2016 and had a few disasterous years outside the EU until folk came to their senses.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 11:42:32 GMT
It looks like the SNP are spamming and derailing threads.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 11:46:47 GMT
It looks like the SNP are spamming and derailing threads. im not the snp b4. Im neither a member or supporter of them. My names thomas mate. Im here to debate and talk politics.
Reality really is a terrible place for you and your mates isnt it b4?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 11:51:13 GMT
Proven? How was it proven. Most opinion is that many of those in favour didn't vote because they believed they would easily win. This is borne out by the percentages of voters by age group. But that was in 2016. We are now 7 years later and the polls ae very clear. Why do you want the people gagged? Proven by the fact, as I said, they said exactly the same things before the referendum, but they actually faced democracy that time and were wrong, now they are using them to manipulate political decisions yet again, we have returned to the same old ways. As you asked of course. I agree, the same people are making the same claims repetitively. It's like Mind Control for Dummies.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 11:58:09 GMT
Proven by the fact, as I said, they said exactly the same things before the referendum, but they actually faced democracy that time and were wrong, now they are using them to manipulate political decisions yet again, we have returned to the same old ways. As you asked of course. I agree, the same people are making the same claims repetitively. It's like Mind Control for Dummies. ah.Back denying the reality that is the tory brexiter clusterfuck , and hoping the imaginary masses are going to rise up and save brexit for you. ? talk about heid in fucking sand.
Im not a labour supporter , but i think its beyond denial the mess the uk is currently in , how unpopular ricky sunak is , and it would take a bold man to predict anything other than a starmer victory on the horizon at this point. You know that same keir starmer who is so pro european he tried numerous times to overturn the brexit vote between 2016 - 2019? that pro european keir starmer , the prospective next uk prime minister?
Backed by the establishment and hapless tories , i think he is going to do it this time b4. Pretending reality doesnt exist around you because you dont have the mental capacity to cope with it wont save brexit.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2023 12:03:09 GMT
Why is the cybernat ScotNat troll spamming support for Starmer on a EU related thread? It isn't like everyone doesn't already know the Tories aren't popular in Scotland.
EDIT: I'll do the decent thing and ignore the baiting.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 12:13:55 GMT
Why is the cybernat ScotNat troll spamming support for Starmer on a EU related thread? It isn't like everyone doesn't already know the Tories aren't popular in Scotland. are you being deliberately obtuse , or can you not join the dots ? With you b4 , and your lack of mental capacity , its normally difficult to tell.
I thought the nuance would be obivous.
I repeat i dont support starmer or labour. Dont shoot the messenger b4 pointing out the reality of a pro european party about to take the uk back into the EU behind the brussells bike sheds. Thats why starmers imminent election is important to an eu thread.
Get it b4???
according to the polls , they arent popular in england and wales either. Hence the predicted pro european labour landslide.
Scotland doesnt elect uk governments. England with its 82 % members of the commons does. It looks like england has had enough of tory brexiters.
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 24, 2023 12:28:15 GMT
Why is the cybernat ScotNat troll spamming support for Starmer on a EU related thread? It isn't like everyone doesn't already know the Tories aren't popular in Scotland. are you being deliberately obtuse , or can you not join the dots ? With you b4 , and your lack of mental capacity , its normally difficult to tell.
I thought the nuance would be obivous.
I repeat i dont support starmer or labour. Dont shoot the messenger b4 pointing out the reality of a pro european party about to take the uk back into the EU behind the brussells bike sheds. Thats why starmers imminent election is important to an eu thread.
Get it b4???
according to the polls , they arent popular in england and wales either. Hence the predicted pro european labour landslide.
Scotland doesnt elect uk governments. England with its 82 % members of the commons does. It looks like england has had enough of tory brexiters.
If that's the case you can kiss goodbye to your "freedom" and remain a British citizen doing what Westminster tells you to do.
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Post by thomas on Jun 24, 2023 12:33:00 GMT
are you being deliberately obtuse , or can you not join the dots ? With you b4 , and your lack of mental capacity , its normally difficult to tell.
I thought the nuance would be obivous.
I repeat i dont support starmer or labour. Dont shoot the messenger b4 pointing out the reality of a pro european party about to take the uk back into the EU behind the brussells bike sheds. Thats why starmers imminent election is important to an eu thread.
Get it b4???
according to the polls , they arent popular in england and wales either. Hence the predicted pro european labour landslide.
Scotland doesnt elect uk governments. England with its 82 % members of the commons does. It looks like england has had enough of tory brexiters.
If that's the case you can kiss goodbye to your "freedom" and remain a British citizen doing what Westminster tells you to do. as long as we get our european citizenship back buccy , i dont mind westmsinter remaining a european parish council. Looking forward to getting my vote back for the big boys parliament in brussells.
no surrender to the EU the terraces will be singing everytime england play.
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 24, 2023 12:40:51 GMT
If that's the case you can kiss goodbye to your "freedom" and remain a British citizen doing what Westminster tells you to do. as long as we get our european citizenship back buccy , i dont mind westmsinter remaining a european parish council. Looking forward to getting my vote back for the big boys parliament in brussells.
no surrender to the EU the terraces will be singing everytime england play.
So your "freedom" from Westminster and evil England was never that important. Though, you won't have any say whatsoever in what the Commission will have in store for you. Interesting how your tune changes - almost as flippy floppy as Starmer you.
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