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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 14:00:39 GMT
I suppose it would be great for the minority of people who still believe Brexit was a good idea, if they could turn around today and claim a booming economy, great growth, low inflation, rising living standards and a truly United Kingdom. Oh well .... I guess they can dream
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Post by Vinny on Jun 23, 2023 14:13:59 GMT
£340bn exports to the EU, £168bn exports to the USA. Compare to our exports before the referendum.
Yes, there's no reason to complain.
It worked.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 14:59:23 GMT
View AttachmentI suppose it would be great for the minority of people who still believe Brexit was a good idea, if they could turn around today and claim a booming economy, great growth, low inflation, rising living standards and a truly United Kingdom. Oh well .... I guess they can dream Unfortunately, their dream always turns into everybody else's nightmare. Currency valuation alone is enough to send shivers down one's spine, but obviously, the the Defenders of the Cult will seek to normalise this issue -- minimise it even. The Sterling has not been able to recover from the Brexit-induced slump of 2016, making our imports all these years expensive. And the nightmarish thing is that, we are a net importer! According to Statista, the Pound was 1.42 to the Euro at the end of 2015. Then 1.19 at the end of 2016 -- the year that gave birth to this thing called Brexit! In 2019, before Covid, it was still below 1.20, at 1.17. In June 2023 it is 1.17. Ten years ago it was 1.21.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 23, 2023 15:05:41 GMT
Oh dear did the facts trigger a shrieking loser?
Everyone go awww. Poor thing.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 23, 2023 15:08:15 GMT
View AttachmentI suppose it would be great for the minority of people who still believe Brexit was a good idea, if they could turn around today and claim a booming economy, great growth, low inflation, rising living standards and a truly United Kingdom. Oh well .... I guess they can dream Unfortunately, their dream always turns into everybody else's nightmare. Currency valuation alone is enough to send shivers down one's spine, but obviously, the the Defenders of the Cult will seek to normalise this issue -- minimise it even. The Sterling has not been able to recover from the Brexit-induced slump of 2016, making our imports all these years expensive. And the nightmarish thing is that, we are a net importer! According to Statista, the Pound was 1.42 to the Euro at the end of 2015. Then 1.19 at the end of 2016 -- the year that gave birth to this thing called Brexit! In 2019, before Covid, it was still below 1.20, at 1.17. In June 2023 it is 1.17. Ten years ago it was 1.21. Economics not a strong point?. It is precisely because the currency was overvalued, and thus making imports cheaper, that our domestic production suffered. Of course you are going to import loads if you make it cheaper than you can produce domestically - the key question is does shutting down domestic production and shifting the work offshore benefit the British worker?.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 15:24:31 GMT
Unfortunately, their dream always turns into everybody else's nightmare. Currency valuation alone is enough to send shivers down one's spine, but obviously, the the Defenders of the Cult will seek to normalise this issue -- minimise it even. The Sterling has not been able to recover from the Brexit-induced slump of 2016, making our imports all these years expensive. And the nightmarish thing is that, we are a net importer! According to Statista, the Pound was 1.42 to the Euro at the end of 2015. Then 1.19 at the end of 2016 -- the year that gave birth to this thing called Brexit! In 2019, before Covid, it was still below 1.20, at 1.17. In June 2023 it is 1.17. Ten years ago it was 1.21. Economics not a strong point?. It is precisely because the currency was overvalued, and thus making imports cheaper, that our domestic production suffered. Of course you are going to import loads if you make it cheaper than you can produce domestically - the key question is does shutting down domestic production and shifting the work offshore benefit the British worker?. You believe that our imports replace our own products. Yes, I can see Economics isn't your strong point.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 23, 2023 15:29:22 GMT
Unfortunately, their dream always turns into everybody else's nightmare. Currency valuation alone is enough to send shivers down one's spine, but obviously, the the Defenders of the Cult will seek to normalise this issue -- minimise it even. The Sterling has not been able to recover from the Brexit-induced slump of 2016, making our imports all these years expensive. And the nightmarish thing is that, we are a net importer! According to Statista, the Pound was 1.42 to the Euro at the end of 2015. Then 1.19 at the end of 2016 -- the year that gave birth to this thing called Brexit! In 2019, before Covid, it was still below 1.20, at 1.17. In June 2023 it is 1.17. Ten years ago it was 1.21. Economics not a strong point?. It is precisely because the currency was overvalued, and thus making imports cheaper, that our domestic production suffered. Of course you are going to import loads if you make it cheaper than you can produce domestically - the key question is does shutting down domestic production and shifting the work offshore benefit the British worker?. The remoaners didn't care about running down our industries and ruining our economy putting hundreds of thousands out of work, only freedom of movement matters to the Eurocult. It's the only significant thing missing from our FTA and we're now selling more to the EU than we ever did as members. And yes, the pound was overvalued before the referendum. www.ft.com/content/ec6bef86-1653-11e4-8210-00144feabdc0www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/imf-cautions-that-pound-is-overvalued-9634382.htmlGood thing it isn't now.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 23, 2023 16:39:55 GMT
Economics not a strong point?. It is precisely because the currency was overvalued, and thus making imports cheaper, that our domestic production suffered. Of course you are going to import loads if you make it cheaper than you can produce domestically - the key question is does shutting down domestic production and shifting the work offshore benefit the British worker?. You believe that our imports replace our own products. Yes, I can see Economics isn't your strong point. Someone who buys a car imported from France instead of one built in UK certainly replaces our own products. How daft do you have to be to not see that..
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 23, 2023 16:42:07 GMT
These wishful thinking rejoin polls are just that ... 58.2% ... LOL la la land.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 16:43:27 GMT
What's been damaged by Brexit? A lot of things have been damaged by Covid and the Ukraine war but I can't think of anything that's been damaged by Brexit. These polls are rigged to lead people to a desired result, which is why these corporate Left sites only publish them when it goes their way.
In reality many who voted leave are disappointed with the current Conservative government, which looks to be going through an internal sabotage whilst the corrupt civil service are working with Labour to overthrow democratically elected MPs. If you think back these same odious scumbags were trying to overturn the democratic result to leave the EU using the courts and foreign agitators.
Yes, we have problems at Westminster, but this is of no fault to those who voted Leave. The real question people should be asking is why the Westminster establishment continues in failing to represent the electorate. These are the questions that should be asked.
Oh, gawd! Now the polls are rigged. Is that it -- the polls are rigged??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 16:49:38 GMT
You believe that our imports replace our own products. Yes, I can see Economics isn't your strong point. Someone who buys a car imported from France instead of one built in UK certainly replaces our own products. How daft do you have to be to not see that.. That's it? That's the extent of our imports -- cars imported from France? Seriously....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 16:50:54 GMT
These wishful thinking rejoin polls are just that ... 58.2% ... LOL la la land. And you would know about la la land, wouldn't you?
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Post by Vinny on Jun 23, 2023 16:51:14 GMT
We'd have to join the Euro, Schengen, the Customs Union, the Single Market, the Common Agricultural Policy, the Common Fisheries Policy and these policies are all fucking SHIT. Not only that, there wouldn't be a rebate.
And considering how badly the Europhiles tried to make their case last time, the case for full membership is dead and buried.
We have a free trade agreement with the EU and it's working better than membership did. There's no reason to throw our sovereignty away and pay £20bn a year in order to sell LESS to the EU than we are now selling, and sacrifice our ability to do bilateral free trade agreements with non members.
The Europhiles are absolutely delusional.
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Post by zanygame on Jun 23, 2023 17:03:12 GMT
And they trust the EU more than their own government.
How much higher do the polls have to climb before the Brexiters have to admit they no longer represent democracy.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 23, 2023 17:07:17 GMT
These wishful thinking rejoin polls are just that ... 58.2% ... LOL la la land. They told them that before the vote they still lost, they tell the Spanish and just about everyone else the same thing, but I don't see any referendum backing it up, they learnt that lesson from the Irish and the UK.
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