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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 24, 2023 21:52:48 GMT
Didn't they go out of fashion when Endowment Mortgages were the latest thing? they did, but came back with a hell of a bang when that bubble burst.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Jun 24, 2023 23:59:10 GMT
My brother bought a flat in the early 80s for £15,000 and sold it three years later for £42,000. He then bought a house for £58,000 (with an endowment mortgage) ... which was repossessed in 1990 and sold at auction for £24,000 ... leaving him £13,000 in debt.
My other brother died recently and I'm due for an 8.5% share of whatever his house sells for. There's a dozen of us, friends and family, waiting to see what we'll get and when we'll get it.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 25, 2023 8:45:32 GMT
The other point which i ought to have made, which seniorcitizen mentioned, is that repossession - the madness that struck the country at the height of Maggie’s popularity, when 17% mortgage rates were the norm thanks to her brilliant chancellor shadowing the german mark - does not solve the problem for the debtor. Throwing the keys on the bank manager’s desk - and it was the arrival of banks in the mortgage game that massively increased the repossessions as banks were often handing out money where mutuals would not - was not remotely the absolution many thought for all that happened was the home was sold dirt cheap for someone else to profit from and the remaining debt sold for a fraction to a debt management company.
But what makes me both laugh hysterically and weep tears is the memes that suggest when i was a young man a car instruction manual told you the plugs and points gaps and engine ignition timing while these days they tell you not to drink the battery acid are true in all respects where financial matters are concerned. The BBC website actually has a page that says ‘what will happen if i can’t pay my mortgage’ FFS. As if they have to have it explained to them they are going to be living in a gutter ….
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 10:06:01 GMT
Didn't they go out of fashion when Endowment Mortgages were the latest thing? they did, but came back with a hell of a bang when that bubble burst.I had one. In 1986 we bought a house and were convinced an endowment policy would work for us. The mortgage was for £26,250 and the policy was taken out to cover that in 20 years. We sold the house 11 years later still owing the £26,250 as we had only paid off interest. We kept paying the endowment insurance after redeeming the mortgage as it seemed a decent investment. When the policy matured in 2006 it was short of what was expected. It paid out £22,000 so I would have been over £4000 short. Fortunately, although the financial market had changed causing the shortfall, so had our circumstances meaning we were living debt free. The £22k was great as our three kids were in University and needed a bit of help.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 25, 2023 11:23:36 GMT
they did, but came back with a hell of a bang when that bubble burst.I had one. In 1986 we bought a house and were convinced an endowment policy would work for us. The mortgage was for £26,250 and the policy was taken out to cover that in 20 years. We sold the house 11 years later still owing the £26,250 as we had only paid off interest. We kept paying the endowment insurance after redeeming the mortgage as it seemed a decent investment. When the policy matured in 2006 it was short of what was expected. It paid out £22,000 so I would have been over £4000 short. Fortunately, although the financial market had changed causing the shortfall, so had our circumstances meaning we were living debt free. The £22k was great as our three kids were in University and needed a bit of help. when you say "were convinced" do you mean "you came to that conclusion yourself" or "someone convinced you" which was my situation. I was never convinced they would do the job, and annual review of the shrinkage of the terminal bonus as years went on proved it. Like you I was not in need of the money to repay the debt when it matured almost £10,000 short of the promise
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2023 14:07:03 GMT
I think I was convinced by a broker, John, but I ended up getting the endowment from a company I arranged myself, so couldn't complain I was mis-sold. Overall we did OK, didn't we.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 27, 2023 2:07:33 GMT
I think I was convinced by a broker, John, but I ended up getting the endowment from a company I arranged myself, so couldn't complain I was mis-sold. Overall we did OK, didn't we. well i did significantly better than the poir buggers in negative equity of course. But given the exact words used by the salesman for the Life Association of Scotland in front of the manager at the Natwest Bank where we signed up, mis-selling was the least of their worries ….
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