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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 27, 2022 6:43:44 GMT
part of the Brexit leave campaign was that Britain would save 350 million a week. The Actual figure was 250 million. But did Britain actually save any money after Brexit. The supposed money the leave campaign said we would save was one of the main drivers many people voted leave. So did we save any money or was this a other lie by Brexiteers? 9 May 2022 · Weighing up the cost of EU membership versus lost EU exports since Brexit, Brexit has cost the UK £9bn a year, or around £173m a week, ..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2022 9:40:00 GMT
part of the Brexit leave campaign was that Britain would save 350 million a week. The Actual figure was 250 million. But did Britain actually save any money after Brexit. The supposed money the leave campaign said we would save was one of the main drivers many people voted leave. So did we save any money or was this a other lie by Brexiteers? 9 May 2022 · Weighing up the cost of EU membership versus lost EU exports since Brexit, Brexit has cost the UK £9bn a year, or around £173m a week, ..
No, we didn't save money from that £350M-a-week lie. There was never going to be and there is no economic benefit to be had from leaving. This is another argument unquestionably against leaving the EU which obviously didn't matter to the very slim majority. In any case, we just have to accept that the UK voted to leave. It is the application or implementation of that vote that has become unacceptable to millions if not to the majority of the people. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2022 8:01:06 GMT
They also said we will control our borders.😂
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Post by Vinny on Oct 31, 2022 11:33:41 GMT
Independent policies, independent free trade agreements, better agricultural policy, independent fisheries policy, the means to ban super trawlers.
And it's bizarre that someone who boasts of being left wing would support the EU.
The EU buildings in Brussels are cathedrals to capitalism, not democracy, not socialism or social democracy, capitalism.
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Post by sheepy on Oct 31, 2022 16:47:33 GMT
Independent policies, independent free trade agreements, better agricultural policy, independent fisheries policy, the means to ban super trawlers. And it's bizarre that someone who boasts of being left wing would support the EU. The EU buildings in Brussels are cathedrals to capitalism, not democracy, not socialism or social democracy, capitalism. Because that is what the Left do, agitate, even if it made complete sense, they would agitate everyone at every opportunity, even if it means handing over their and your future totally. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 31, 2022 17:22:39 GMT
Do we really need a new thread every time someone wants their particular comment on a much threaded topic to have undue attention?
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Post by Bentley on Oct 31, 2022 17:41:29 GMT
When you leave a relationship that you consider was abusive , it takes a while to get back on to your feet.
The voices of the ones who were against your abusive partner will evaporate over time .
The divorce was nasty and the ex partner still wants to make our lives hard.
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 31, 2022 19:13:14 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Oct 31, 2022 19:46:01 GMT
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 31, 2022 19:52:42 GMT
Lol so you refuse to read my factual post by the farmers who you said were getting a better deal
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Post by Vinny on Oct 31, 2022 20:16:41 GMT
I come from a long line of farmers going back several centuries.
How do you think I got interested in guns and shooting ?
Yes, some farmers are worse off, no surprise, the CAP was inefficient and rewarded people on the basis of how much land they own.
Basically the rich got richer and the poor got poorer.
A shit system.
Now, wealthy billionaire cunts are grumbling because we've a better agricultural system.
Cry me a river.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 31, 2022 22:27:26 GMT
So what is the problem with the seasonal worker visa? |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2022 1:10:02 GMT
Lol so you refuse to read my factual post by the farmers who you said were getting a better deal You wouldn't know a fact if you tripped arse over tit on one. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 5, 2022 9:30:02 GMT
part of the Brexit leave campaign was that Britain would save 350 million a week. The Actual figure was 250 million. But did Britain actually save any money after Brexit. The supposed money the leave campaign said we would save was one of the main drivers many people voted leave. So did we save any money or was this a other lie by Brexiteers?
And the Remain campaign said that each household would lose an average of £2200 pa - which is a loss of about £40 billion. The £350 million per week (about £18 billion) claim is inaccurate in that it includes the "Fontainebleu Abatement" (the Rebate) which is about £4 billion pa. So that was about £4 billion wrong. Mind you the EU regularly reviews the rebate and it only ever goes down. So, TTL3, which is the bigger lie - one that exaggerates a figure by £4 billion or one that exaggerates it by £40 billion. The interesting thing is that the BBC attacked the £350 million figure just about every day of the campaign. So there can hardly be many people who weren't aware of the facts. Strangely though the BBC never questioned the massive lie of £2200 pa. So which do you think was more likely to influence the voters. |
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Post by oracle75 on Nov 6, 2022 9:37:39 GMT
It is no good squabbling over details when the whole economy is in a mess.
This weekend nurses will vote to go on strike because of lack of investment and personnel.
Farming is less productive because of lack of personnel.
Lack of investment in UK industry and the difficulties of extra paperwork has dragged down much of the potential for growth.
These are some of the issues that are meaningful to the future of the country, not the failure of those baseless promises made in 2016.
Other countries are seen as more stable and with fewer headwinds. They manage to make decisions about the welfare of their economy while inside the EU. And they seem to be doing it more successfully than the UK.
The number of people now beginning to realise the longterm effects of Brexit and the number of false promises and lies they were fed, are now seeing the real drop in their welfare unheard of before Brexit. Much of it comes from the extended under investment years before 2016 when it was manageable. Now the UK has an enormous national debt, far too many jobs unfilled and its productivity is falling.
The UK attached another anchor to its foot in 2016. The potential for better post Brexit this and that doesn't pay off that debt and the people are having to go without to allow the government to pay off that debt.
It isn't enough to say the UK can make its own decisions while the ship is actually sinking. And if Truss is anything to go by,there is a lack of people who can make good decisions.
If you want a good example, now the UK has left the EU , water companies feel free to discharge raw sewage into lakes and rivers. This is illegal in the EU.
Discussions about pounds and pence don't really indicate the serious long term effects of Brexit.
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