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Post by Pacifico on Jun 12, 2023 21:26:49 GMT
Sounds like we are saving ourselves a fortune - why are you complaining? Brexit Britain ridicules the EU for setting better and higher standards, yet waive checks on imports from the EU based on the fact that EU produce have better and higher standards: that ain't no complaint. So you see that Brexit was a win then - we get all these regulations for the price of nothing - we have saved Billions.. and still people complain that we have left the EU - baffling..
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Post by Vinny on Jun 12, 2023 22:01:30 GMT
I've been to France from time to time, not impressed with a lot of it tbh and Paris is the biggest shithole to drive around, ever.
That said, now we're out of the Customs Union, duty free is back. Duty free makes it worth visiting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2023 22:26:42 GMT
Brexit Britain ridicules the EU for setting better and higher standards, yet waive checks on imports from the EU based on the fact that EU produce have better and higher standards: that ain't no complaint. So you see that Brexit was a win then - we get all these regulations for the price of nothing - we have saved Billions.. and still people complain that we have left the EU - baffling.. No. I don't see Brexit as a win. It's a dud. Failure.
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Post by oracle75 on Jun 13, 2023 11:12:31 GMT
I am quite happy that someone is looking after the quality of what i buy and that scammers are prohibited from selling junk. But this proposal will not stop anything being sold. Well not in the UK where the regulation doesnt affect what the quality of what is for sale is defined.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 13, 2023 17:04:49 GMT
But this proposal will not stop anything being sold. Well not in the UK where the regulation doesnt affect what the quality of what is for sale is defined. It wont stop anything being sold in the EU either - it is only a designation for the name of the product. If you buy Carrefour or Lidl own brand cheap Jam and its fruit content doesnt meet the proposed new rules they can still keep selling exactly the same product - except they have to call it Fruit spread. It would be far easier if the EU mandated the fruit content on the jar like the UK does - then the housewife could see for herself how much fruit was in it.
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Post by oracle75 on Jun 14, 2023 6:19:45 GMT
In fact there is no regulation on what percentage of fruit is in jam. The declaration is voluntary as a selling point. And i find it offensive that you think only "housewives" shop. Housewives disappeared 50 years ago.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 14, 2023 6:33:08 GMT
In fact there is no regulation on what percentage of fruit is in jam. The declaration is voluntary as a selling point. And i find it offensive that you think only "housewives" shop. Housewives disappeared 50 years ago. There is in the UK - perhaps the EU need to up their game?
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Post by oracle75 on Jun 15, 2023 21:39:55 GMT
If there is, why are you criticising the EU for doing the same?
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 16, 2023 6:39:21 GMT
If there is, why are you criticising the EU for doing the same? Don't mind me - if you think it's important for your politicians to spend their time arguing over the fruit content of Jam then jolly good. Everyones happy.
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Post by oracle75 on Jun 16, 2023 7:12:55 GMT
If there is, why are you criticising the EU for doing the same? Don't mind me - if you think it's important for your politicians to spend their time arguing over the fruit content of Jam then jolly good. Everyones happy. Well if there is the requirement to do so in the UK, some of your politicians did the same thing. By the way the description of fruit and sugar content in the EU began in 2001. eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/summary/fruit-jams-and-sweetened-chestnut-pur-e.htmlThis is merely a tweak. Go find something important. The desperate scramble for silly, inaccurate and petty details of anything to do with the EU is getting ridiculous. You really should find something useful to do that contrubutes to the recovery of your own economy instead of bitching vainly about what the EU has and is doing and which has no effect on you. You have chosen and supported that the UK unhitches itself from the EU. Then wanted an FTA. First, that is an impossible position. Second it was one of those lies Boris told...he pedalled any dream you wanted and had no direction himself. So to criticise the fruit content of a directive of 2001 and the UK was happy to follow is a pathetic snowball that already has melted before you can throw it.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 16, 2023 10:35:15 GMT
Exactly - we spent £10 Billion a year so that bureaucrats could decide for us how much fruit should be in Jam.
What a stunning return on investment that was..
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 21, 2023 7:54:23 GMT
But this proposal will not stop anything being sold. Well not in the UK where the regulation doesnt affect what the quality of what is for sale is defined. Many UK jams would already reach the arbitrary threshold now set by the EU. Some French jams may have to rebrand if they don't change their ingredients. It seems it's going to be a pain in the arse more for EU jam producers. There's really no purpose to this that I can see. Most jam produced in the UK stays in the UK. It probably won't be worth the efforts to follow the EU. And it certainly doesn't improve the quality of jam by doing this. You see, UK consumers can actually read the ingredients themselves to see what they are getting in their jam. As the OP states, this is the EU trying to be relevant by regulating its region and making non-tariff barriers more difficult to big exporters of jam, of which the UK isn't.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 21, 2023 9:14:51 GMT
The key to jam is sugar plus fruit. A higher sugar to fruit ratio in jam means a longer shelf life.
It is after all, what is known as a "preserve".
I recall my grandfather making his own, and rather nice it was too.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 21, 2023 9:49:29 GMT
If there is, why are you criticising the EU for doing the same? Don't mind me - if you think it's important for your politicians to spend their time arguing over the fruit content of Jam then jolly good. Everyones happy. That would be the whole point of the EU, wouldn't it? To deal with those differences in standards in member state countries that act as barriers to trade. They tend to relate to trivial matters like this, trademark laws, etc. On the other hand, the UK's unelected judiciary make laws on important matters like constitutional law, criminal law, and family law. Matters that are far from trivial.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 21, 2023 9:50:46 GMT
Turkish jam is very popular in the EU. I hear the place is practically swimming in it, now that Turkey has joined the EU as promised by Brexiters in 2016.
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