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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2023 11:27:26 GMT
I already qualified it for you and I am qualifying it again: It's "this particular breed of Brexiteers". It's not "Brexiteers in particular." Here, once again: Iraq always highlights the breath taking hypocrisy of these supposedly "morally upright Brexiteers" in particular. Going to war is always very difficult to justify but this breed of Brexiteers will burst your eardrums with their moral outrage over the invasion of Iraq yet they keep a deafening silence about Britain's arms trade with the Saudis. They constantly complain about this supposed loss of independence to the EU. But they march out of the discussion in a huff when you remind them that it was the UK's independent decision -- in defiance France, maybe -- to join the US, et al. in invading Iraq!The meaning is, there are (A) Brexiteers who burst your eardrum with their moral outrage and complain about this supposed loss of of independence, blah blah blah. And there are (B) Brexiteers who DO NOT burst your eardrum with their moral outrage blah blah blah. Will you comprehend it already. 
So how many of these particular brexiters is there ? Do you have a figure ? Are there remainers who burst your eardrums with their moral outrage over the invasion of Iraq yet keep a deafening silence about Britain’s arms trade with the Saudis ? Does that make them more or less hypocritical? Do you have any kind of point to make ? You had it right with blah blah blah . ^ Irrelevant. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 15, 2023 11:34:37 GMT
So how many of these particular brexiters is there ? Do you have a figure ? Are there remainers who burst your eardrums with their moral outrage over the invasion of Iraq yet keep a deafening silence about Britain’s arms trade with the Saudis ? Does that make them more or less hypocritical? Do you have any kind of point to make ? You had it right with blah blah blah . ^ Irrelevant. Nope. You seem to have constructed a particular type of brexiter in your head to make non point . You don’t know how many there are, you don’t feel the need to balance your argument against remainers who are the same . When this is questioned, you claim it’s irrelevant. You don’t have a point but you still feel the need to press it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2023 12:15:39 GMT
Nope. You seem to have constructed a particular type of brexiter in your head to make non point . You don’t know how many there are, you don’t feel the need to balance your argument against remainers who are the same . When this is questioned, you claim it’s irrelevant.You don’t have a point but you still feel the need to press it. Meh!   Statistics and the entirety of your comments are irrelevant to the point I make -- which, obviously, you try to dismiss as non existent because you are unable to spot it. You can't even spot the difference between the phrases "a particular breed of Brexiteer" and "Brexiteers in particular" on your own. If you feel the need to drag remain voters into this; then, by all means, create another thread or a sub thread. I might join the discussion, even. But don't insert your irrelevant argument here and then expect me to pivot to it. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 15, 2023 12:27:55 GMT
Read this “Going to war is always very difficult to justify but this breed of Brexiteers will burst your eardrums with their moral outrage over the invasion of Iraq yet they keep a deafening silence about Britain's arms trade with the Saudis.” I’ll ask again. Only Brexiters ? . In particular, the breed of supposedly "morally upright" Brexiteers who will burst your eardrum with their moral outrage over the invasion of Iraq yet will keep a deafening silence about Britain's arms trade with the Saudis and who constantly complain about this supposed loss of independence to the EU but march out of the discussion in a huff when you remind them that it was the UK's independent decision to join the US, et al. in invading Iraq! Are you a member of this breed of Brexiteers? You are clutching at straws now Gnome. Yesterday, you believed Brexit was responsible for the UK's response to the pandemic, and now you only refer to Brexiteers who bemoan the invasion of Iraq while remaining silent of arms sales to Saudi Arabia. You are desperate and your left-of-centre arguments are not only risible but they are ghoulish. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 15, 2023 13:07:09 GMT
Nope. You seem to have constructed a particular type of brexiter in your head to make non point . You don’t know how many there are, you don’t feel the need to balance your argument against remainers who are the same . When this is questioned, you claim it’s irrelevant.You don’t have a point but you still feel the need to press it. Meh! Statistics and the entirety of your comments are irrelevant to the point I make -- which, obviously, you try to dismiss as non existent because you are unable to spot it. You can't even spot the difference between the phrases "a particular breed of Brexiteer" and "Brexiteers in particular" on your own. If you feel the need to drag remain voters into this; then, by all means, create another thread or a sub thread. I might join the discussion, even. But don't insert your irrelevant argument here and then expect me to pivot to it. Not irrelevant. You are constructing a stereotype to turn into strawman to argue against. You have no idea how many exist outside of your head . Pointing out your self indulgence is quite relevant . |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2023 14:45:27 GMT
Meh! Statistics and the entirety of your comments are irrelevant to the point I make -- which, obviously, you try to dismiss as non existent because you are unable to spot it. You can't even spot the difference between the phrases "a particular breed of Brexiteer" and "Brexiteers in particular" on your own. If you feel the need to drag remain voters into this; then, by all means, create another thread or a sub thread. I might join the discussion, even. But don't insert your irrelevant argument here and then expect me to pivot to it. Not irrelevant. You are constructing a stereotype to turn into strawman to argue against. You have no idea how many exist outside of your head . Pointing out your self indulgence is quite relevant . Yes, irrelevant. You are creating an argument that is irrelevant to the point that my claim asks you to address. You've pivoted to your self-created argument and you want me to address that pivot-argument. Well, No. I ain't doing that. Gnome: There is a breed of Brexiteers that are loud in their condemnation of the Iraq war yet quiet about Britain's arms trade; and then complain about loss of independence, but ignore that the decision taken to invade Iraq was independent. Bentley: " Only Brexiters?" Bentley, again: " Only Brexiters, no remainers?" Don't you see what such questions and asking such questions mean? They mean that you impliedly and effectively agree and acknowledge the existence of such people with such mindset. What you are effectively saying is that "Yes, there are such Brexiteers but there are also such Remainers." And that's what you wanted to argue only that you got caught. By me. You can't argue against their existence now. Too late. That is no longer relevant. Sorry. Your line of questioning should now pertain to the mindset of such people; not to the existence of such people. Or how many of them exist. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2023 14:53:06 GMT
Yes, my comment refers only to Brexiteers. In particular, the breed of supposedly "morally upright" Brexiteers who will burst your eardrum with their moral outrage over the invasion of Iraq yet will keep a deafening silence about Britain's arms trade with the Saudis and who constantly complain about this supposed loss of independence to the EU but march out of the discussion in a huff when you remind them that it was the UK's independent decision to join the US, et al. in invading Iraq! Are you a member of this breed of Brexiteers? You are clutching at straws now Gnome. Yesterday, you believed Brexit was responsible for the UK's response to the pandemic, and now you only refer to Brexiteers who bemoan the invasion of Iraq while remaining silent of arms sales to Saudi Arabia. You are desperate and your left-of-centre arguments are not only risible but they are ghoulish. What are you on about now? AFAIC, you're notorious for conflating and then confusing things. Why don't you cut and paste the statements you're talking about and start from there before using inappropriate words like ghoulish. If you can't or won't do that, then Meh! Ah ainnt wasteenn mah time. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 15, 2023 14:54:08 GMT
Not irrelevant. You are constructing a stereotype to turn into strawman to argue against. You have no idea how many exist outside of your head . Pointing out your self indulgence is quite relevant . Yes, irrelevant. You are creating an argument that is irrelevant to the point that my claim asks you to address. You've pivoted to your self-created argument and you want me to address that pivot-argument. Well, No. I ain't doing that. Gnome: There is a breed of Brexiteers that are loud in their condemnation of the Iraq war yet quiet about Britain's arms trade; and then complain about loss of independence, but ignore that the decision taken to invade Iraq was independent. Bentley: " Only Brexiters?" Bentley, again: " Only Brexiters, no remainers?" Don't you see what such questions and asking such questions mean? They mean that you impliedly and effectively agree and acknowledge the existence of such people with such mindset. What you are effectively saying is that "Yes, there are such Brexiteers but there are also such Remainers." And that's what you wanted to argue only that you got caught. By me. You can't argue against their existence now. Too late. That is no longer relevant. Sorry. Your line of questioning should now pertain to the mindset of such people; not to the existence of such people. Or how many of them exist. I can argue what I like . I suspect that the ‘ Brexiters’ that you refer to either exist only in your head and/ or you have no idea how many exist . Don’t tell me what I said . I’m not the one constructing a stereotype and basing a strawman to argue against . |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2023 14:56:42 GMT
Yes, irrelevant. You are creating an argument that is irrelevant to the point that my claim asks you to address. You've pivoted to your self-created argument and you want me to address that pivot-argument. Well, No. I ain't doing that. Gnome: There is a breed of Brexiteers that are loud in their condemnation of the Iraq war yet quiet about Britain's arms trade; and then complain about loss of independence, but ignore that the decision taken to invade Iraq was independent. Bentley: " Only Brexiters?" Bentley, again: " Only Brexiters, no remainers?" Don't you see what such questions and asking such questions mean? They mean that you impliedly and effectively agree and acknowledge the existence of such people with such mindset. What you are effectively saying is that "Yes, there are such Brexiteers but there are also such Remainers." And that's what you wanted to argue only that you got caught. By me. You can't argue against their existence now. Too late. That is no longer relevant. Sorry. Your line of questioning should now pertain to the mindset of such people; not to the existence of such people. Or how many of them exist. I can argue what I like . I suspect that the ‘ Brexiters’ that you refer to either exist only in your head and/ or you have no idea how many exist . Don’t tell me what I said . I’m not the one constructing a stereotype and basing a strawman to argue against . Yes. You can argue what you like. And I'll tell you when it is irrelevant. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 15, 2023 15:00:05 GMT
I can argue what I like . I suspect that the ‘ Brexiters’ that you refer to either exist only in your head and/ or you have no idea how many exist . Don’t tell me what I said . I’m not the one constructing a stereotype and basing a strawman to argue against . Yes. You can argue what you like. And I'll tell you when it is irrelevant. Nope. You will insist that’s irrelevant because it is relevant and points out your straw man fallacy based on a constructed stereotype . |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2023 15:17:53 GMT
Yes. You can argue what you like. And I'll tell you when it is irrelevant. Nope. You will insist that’s irrelevant because it is relevant and points out your straw man fallacy based on a constructed stereotype . Fine. I actually agree with you -- you can argue what you like. Argue what you like then. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 15, 2023 15:19:45 GMT
Nope. You will insist that’s irrelevant because it is relevant and points out your straw man fallacy based on a constructed stereotype . Fine. I actually agree with you -- you can argue what you like. Argue what you like then. You built a straw man . Sorry it got burnt. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2023 15:21:47 GMT
Fine. I actually agree with you -- you can argue what you like. Argue what you like then. You built a straw man . Sorry it got burnt. ^ Irrelevant. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 15, 2023 16:28:51 GMT
You built a straw man . Sorry it got burnt. ^ Irrelevant. We agree that your straw man was irrelevant then. Good . |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 15, 2023 19:47:59 GMT
You are clutching at straws now Gnome. Yesterday, you believed Brexit was responsible for the UK's response to the pandemic, and now you only refer to Brexiteers who bemoan the invasion of Iraq while remaining silent of arms sales to Saudi Arabia. You are desperate and your left-of-centre arguments are not only risible but they are ghoulish. What are you on about now? AFAIC, you're notorious for conflating and then confusing things. Why don't you cut and paste the statements you're talking about and start from there before using inappropriate words like ghoulish. If you can't or won't do that, then Meh! Ah ainnt wasteenn mah time. I quoted you in the post you just replied to. I know you're constantly looking for new material to bemoan Brexit. When you haven't got a headline to regurgitate and whinge over you're found wanting making up your own strawman arguments. Don't complain when your ghoulish arguments get called out. |
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Statistics and the entirety of your comments are irrelevant to the point I make -- which, obviously, you try to dismiss as non existent because you are unable to spot it. You can't even spot the difference between the phrases "a particular breed of Brexiteer" and "Brexiteers in particular" on your own. 