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Post by sheepy on Jun 9, 2023 15:26:50 GMT
Okay, let's hear your plan to hold referendums in a way that doesn't threaten the union. For me the concept of holding referendum is merely a sign of weak governance and merely leads to divisiveness and confusion...QED BREXIT....most people cannot fathom the concept of the EU, its philosophy or its aims or its future direction of travel; let alone have a basis upon which to form a coherent view especially with all the uninformed noise and crap from social media that surrounds such political indescision nowadays. Brexit was basically predicated upon the weakness of Cameron against that woeful team of useful idiots, Farage and Johnson. All engaging in some banal exchange of tweets and insults in order to reduce the complexities of the question into some crass popularist narratives that would capture the imagination of brain dead British voters. The Scotsman seems full of festering anger but you liked that. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 15:27:13 GMT
No, you became violently outraged when I inquired how it worked. Sure just like every thread is a referendum because you say so. That's what you said. Now, if you deny saying it, that's fine by me. Just answer my original question: when do you expect these populist referendums to happen, and what issues do you think they will concern? |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 9, 2023 15:28:30 GMT
Sure just like every thread is a referendum because you say so. That's what you said. Now, if you deny saying it, that's fine by me. Just answer my original question: when do you expect these populist referendums to happen, and what issues do you think they will concern? Show where I said it? i bet you cannot, you are just in a tizzy because you have created a situation where the Gods in the EU are being out thought. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 9, 2023 15:30:06 GMT
You might be right but when the question was put to the public , the ex leavers arguments never went beyond ‘ the sky will fall in ‘ and ‘ anyone who wants to leave is a xenophobe’. They still haven’t . ...that's my point...one attempts to condense complex international trade and political and diplomatic relations, geopolitical rivalries and tensions and intentions, supply chain/banking and god knows what else into concepts that few can fathom but are told to vote on. How can that form the basis of sensible government? If all you are left with is a sign on the side of a bus which is supposed to encapsulate international relations then I weep....and I did. That assumes that the people in charge are capable of controlling the complex concepts . |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 15:32:01 GMT
No problem: Me: So, let's hear what you think other referendums will be held on. You: We hold them all of the time, across the internet, you have your polls which is usually how we know they are propaganda bunkum. |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 9, 2023 15:33:13 GMT
No problem: Me: So, let's hear what you think other referendums will be held on. You: We hold them all of the time, across the internet, you have your polls which is usually how we know they are propaganda bunkum. So where did I say every thread is a referendum? when that is what you said. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 15:34:36 GMT
No problem: Me: So, let's hear what you think other referendums will be held on. You: We hold them all of the time, across the internet, you have your polls which is usually how we know they are propaganda bunkum. So where did I say every thread is a referendum? when that is what you said. It's a natural conclusion. If it's not threads, go ahead and provide a link to one of these 'internet referendums'. |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 9, 2023 15:36:18 GMT
So where did I say every thread is a referendum? when that is what you said. It's a natural conclusion. If it's not threads, go ahead and provide a link to one of these 'referendums'. Exactly so you made it up and decided it was a natural conclusion, you will have to find them. They happened throughout lockdown when you were putting everyone under house arrest. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 15:37:35 GMT
It's a natural conclusion. If it's not threads, go ahead and provide a link to one of these 'referendums'. Exactly so you made it up and decided it was a natural conclusion, you will have to find them. They happened throughout lockdown when you were putting everyone under house arrest. Hmmm. It was a logical conclusion. A conclusion which seems more reasonable every time you refuse to provide a link. I don't think these 'internet referendums' happened, Sheepy. You're lying, aren't you? |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 9, 2023 15:39:18 GMT
Exactly so you made it up and decided it was a natural conclusion, you will have to find them. They happened throughout lockdown when you were putting everyone under house arrest. Hmmm. It was a logical conclusion. A conclusion which seems more reasonable every time you refuse to provide a link. I don't think these 'internet referendums' happened, Sheepy. You're lying, aren't you? Well you will have to come to your own conclusion as you have just proved that is what you do and decide for everyone else as well. There must be a medical explanation somewhere. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 15:40:34 GMT
Hmmm. It was a logical conclusion. A conclusion which seems more reasonable every time you refuse to provide a link. I don't think these 'internet referendums' happened, Sheepy. You're lying, aren't you? Well you will have to come to your own conclusion as you have just proved that is what you do and decide for everyone else as well. There must be a medical explanation somewhere. There must a link somewhere if you are telling the truth. You're lying through your teeth, so naturally you can't provide a link. |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 9, 2023 15:42:08 GMT
Well you will have to come to your own conclusion as you have just proved that is what you do and decide for everyone else as well. There must be a medical explanation somewhere. There must a link somewhere if you are telling the truth. You're lying through your teeth, so naturally you can't provide a link. How wise do you think that would be with someone as disruptive about referendums as yourself? I told you come to your own conclusion then you feel at peace, even if you blame me. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 15:43:13 GMT
There must a link somewhere if you are telling the truth. You're lying through your teeth, so naturally you can't provide a link. How wise do you think that would be with someone as disruptive about referendums as yourself? I told you come to your own conclusion then you feel at peace, even if you blame me. You keep inviting me to come to my own conclusion. But there is only one possible conclusion: you made the whole thing up. |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 9, 2023 15:45:15 GMT
How wise do you think that would be with someone as disruptive about referendums as yourself? I told you come to your own conclusion then you feel at peace, even if you blame me. You keep inviting me to come to my own conclusion. But there is only one possible conclusion: you made the whole thing up. Fine with me, I made the whole thing up. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 15:46:16 GMT
You keep inviting me to come to my own conclusion. But there is only one possible conclusion: you made the whole thing up. Fine with me, I made the whole thing up. That's not exactly news for the rest of us, but you'll feel better now you've got it off your chest. |
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