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Post by jonksy on Jun 8, 2023 21:17:42 GMT
Brexit: Michel Barnier says Britain can REJOIN the European Union.....FFS now its going tits up whithout us they want treasure Island back in the fold.
Brexit: Michel Barnier says Britain can REJOIN the European Union
© GB News
Former EU Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier has insisted the “door is open” for the United Kingdom to rejoin the EUSSR “any time”.
Barnier, 72, who launched an unsuccessful bid for French President in 2021, warned rejoining the bloc would force the UK to give up its status as a sovereign trading nation, give back control of its borders and sacrifice its regulatory independence.
"The door is open, any time, I always say that during negotiation, after negotiation, the door remains open," he told ITV.
"But to be clear, the UK government, the current Government, the next Government, knows exactly what are the terms and conditions to be part of the single market, to be part of the customs union, to rejoin the EUSSR.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 9, 2023 11:44:46 GMT
Once bitten twice shy.
We don't need membership.
And the Commission run EU is not a democracy.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 9, 2023 12:19:08 GMT
Once bitten twice shy. We don't need membership. And the Commission run EU is not a democracy. Funny how it would be on UK terms now Vinny. They really miss treasure Island... |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 12:45:16 GMT
Brexit: Michel Barnier says Britain can REJOIN the European Union.....FFS now its going tits up whithout us they want treasure Island back in the fold.
Brexit: Michel Barnier says Britain can REJOIN the European Union
© GB News
Former EU Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier has insisted the “door is open” for the United Kingdom to rejoin the EUSSR “any time”.
Barnier, 72, who launched an unsuccessful bid for French President in 2021, warned rejoining the bloc would force the UK to give up its status as a sovereign trading nation, give back control of its borders and sacrifice its regulatory independence.
"The door is open, any time, I always say that during negotiation, after negotiation, the door remains open," he told ITV.
"But to be clear, the UK government, the current Government, the next Government, knows exactly what are the terms and conditions to be part of the single market, to be part of the customs union, to rejoin the EUSSR.
Why not? Recent poll says 31% think Brexit was a good idea, with 54% saying it was a bad idea. Sounds like it's mutual. |
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Post by patman post on Jun 9, 2023 12:56:48 GMT
There'd have to be an almighty great reason for the UK to rejoin the EU — it's unlikely to get the same favourable benefits and opt-outs it had negotiated while it was a member.
That's why the idea of a full Australia-New Zealand-Canada-UK trading alliance is being pushed by CANZUK International and supported primarily by conservatives. Other supporters include the Adam Smith Institute, the Henry Jackson Society The Bruges Group and politicians from the four countries...
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 13:00:14 GMT
There'd have to be an almighty great reason for the UK to rejoin the EU — it's unlikely to get the same favourable benefits and opt-outs it had negotiated while it was a member. That's why the idea of a full Australia-New Zealand-Canada-UK trading alliance is being pushed by CANZUK International and supported primarily by conservatives. Other supporters include the Adam Smith Institute, the Henry Jackson Society The Bruges Group and politicians from the four countries... Have to settle for Brino, then. |
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Post by patman post on Jun 9, 2023 13:07:04 GMT
There'd have to be an almighty great reason for the UK to rejoin the EU — it's unlikely to get the same favourable benefits and opt-outs it had negotiated while it was a member. That's why the idea of a full Australia-New Zealand-Canada-UK trading alliance is being pushed by CANZUK International and supported primarily by conservatives. Other supporters include the Adam Smith Institute, the Henry Jackson Society The Bruges Group and politicians from the four countries... Have to settle for Brino, then. Even that's proving to be a bugger's muddle — the restrictions and extra requirements imposed on anything that attempts to replicate the actuality of EU membership just add to the time and expense... |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 9, 2023 13:11:23 GMT
There'd have to be an almighty great reason for the UK to rejoin the EU — it's unlikely to get the same favourable benefits and opt-outs it had negotiated while it was a member. That's why the idea of a full Australia-New Zealand-Canada-UK trading alliance is being pushed by CANZUK International and supported primarily by conservatives. Other supporters include the Adam Smith Institute, the Henry Jackson Society The Bruges Group and politicians from the four countries... Have to settle for Brino, then. Will we? well good of you to tell us what we will be settling for. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 13:12:59 GMT
Have to settle for Brino, then. Even that's proving to be a bugger's muddle — the restrictions and extra requirements imposed on anything that attempts to replicate the actuality of EU membership just add to the time and expense... Someone will have to cut the gordian knot, then. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 13:14:17 GMT
Have to settle for Brino, then. Will we? well good of you to tell us what we will be settling for. Well, you populists won't be getting any more referendums for a long time, Sheeps. The union is too fragile. You'll have to settle for a lot less than you want. |
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Post by patman post on Jun 9, 2023 13:22:12 GMT
Even that's proving to be a bugger's muddle — the restrictions and extra requirements imposed on anything that attempts to replicate the actuality of EU membership just add to the time and expense... Someone will have to cut the gordian know, then. The problem with that is Northern Ireland — it would require someone of stature brave enough in Westminster to royally piss off the Loyalists and tell them that Ireland is one country with no border and that they can either stay where they are and suck it up or move out.
Ireland is going to re-unite one day, even if left to its own devices, but that's probably a long way off, and meanwhile the UK has to trade its way out of its current difficulties...
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Post by sheepy on Jun 9, 2023 13:23:02 GMT
Will we? well good of you to tell us what we will be settling for. Well, you populists won't be getting any more referendums for a long time, Sheeps. The union is too fragile. You'll have to settle for a lot less than you want. Will we? it seems you have become a mind reader and soothsayer all in one. We are not without options. Although of course the EU would like us to believe they are the option, which as they failed once before I see no reason anything has changed, we are looking at the options on the table. |
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Post by thescotsman on Jun 9, 2023 13:24:55 GMT
Brexit: Michel Barnier says Britain can REJOIN the European Union.....FFS now its going tits up whithout us they want treasure Island back in the fold.
Brexit: Michel Barnier says Britain can REJOIN the European Union
© GB News
Former EU Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier has insisted the “door is open” for the United Kingdom to rejoin the EUSSR “any time”.
Barnier, 72, who launched an unsuccessful bid for French President in 2021, warned rejoining the bloc would force the UK to give up its status as a sovereign trading nation, give back control of its borders and sacrifice its regulatory independence.
"The door is open, any time, I always say that during negotiation, after negotiation, the door remains open," he told ITV.
"But to be clear, the UK government, the current Government, the next Government, knows exactly what are the terms and conditions to be part of the single market, to be part of the customs union, to rejoin the EUSSR.
Why not? Recent poll says 31% think Brexit was a good idea, with 54% saying it was a bad idea. Sounds like it's mutual.rhetorical only, but I wonder if there's a breakdown of the IQ for those that responded to the poll....since most people don't really know what the EU does or how it works or how the secretariat functions or it's purpose then any poll on the EU is pretty worthless in my way of thinking....as I say that's just rhetorical.... |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 9, 2023 13:30:13 GMT
Well, you populists won't be getting any more referendums for a long time, Sheeps. The union is too fragile. You'll have to settle for a lot less than you want. Will we? it seems you have become a mind reader and soothsayer all in one. We are not without options. Although of course the EU would like us to believe they are the option, which as they failed once before I see no reason anything has changed, we are looking at the options on the table. Meh! Neither the Tories nor Labour are going to hold a referendum on any subject anytime soon. If Scotland votes differently than the rest of the UK, that will be the end of the Union. So, bye-bye populist dream. No referendums on any subject. Regrets to you and Vinny. |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 9, 2023 13:32:35 GMT
Will we? it seems you have become a mind reader and soothsayer all in one. We are not without options. Although of course the EU would like us to believe they are the option, which as they failed once before I see no reason anything has changed, we are looking at the options on the table. Meh! Neither the Tories nor Labour are going to hold a referendum on any subject anytime soon. If Scotland votes differ to the rest of the UK, that will be the end of the Union. So, bye-bye populist dream. Regrets to you and Vinny. I think you have somewhat missed the point and are sounding like Jonsky, these are the only choices you have attitude, it never stopped us before and it won't again. |
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