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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 2, 2022 4:21:37 GMT
For a start we hadn't even paid off ANY of the debt New Labour left us with.
What after 12yrs tory years and Aurtristy measures we still in a financial mess and you try and say it not down to the tories
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 2, 2022 4:38:24 GMT
For a start we hadn't even paid off ANY of the debt New Labour left us with. What after 12yrs tory years and Aurtristy measures we still in a financial mess and you try and say it not down to the tories TTL, those crayons, you're not supposed to eat them.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 2, 2022 4:45:22 GMT
For a start we hadn't even paid off ANY of the debt New Labour left us with. What after 12yrs tory years and Aurtristy measures we still in a financial mess and you try and say it not down to the tories TTL, those crayons, you're not supposed to eat them.But it brightens the sewers up mate.
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Post by jaydee on Nov 2, 2022 8:07:42 GMT
I'm not an apologist for anybody. You are just engaging on another anti-English fantasy. Look at the rest of the world you numpty. Inflation is happening all over the world. Did the Tories cause inflation in the US? lol. Inflation rates have doubled in 37 of 44 advanced economies over the past two years, according to Pew Research Center analysis.You are also wrong with your point about 4% from Russia. What about the 50% we buy in? Does your biased mind not understand that the rest of the world is chasing that supply too, so driving up the price for the UK? Have your biased ears not heard about global manufacturing shortages? lol You are a out and out apologist for this bunch of wankers and allow me to do a copy and paste. With a few added tweeks. Because in terms of numpties it has not changed since the last time I posted it. The inflation rate in the UK is totally man made in Westminster by the most useless bunch of wankers ever to call itself a government. What exactly are you cheering for. The UK relies only on 4% of energy from Russia. The EU relies heavily, to the tune of 39%. And that could have been sourced from elsewhere by the UK. The UK’s stores hold enough gas to meet the demand of four to five winter days, or just 1% of Europe’s total available storage. The Netherlands has capacity more than nine times the UK’s, while Germany’s is 16 times the size. The Rough storage facility, owned by Centrica, the parent company of British Gas, provided 70% of the UK gas storage capacity for more than 30 years before it shut in 2017 following a government decision not to subsidise the maintenance and upgrades needed to keep the site going. And like covid. Despite having a exercise to find out what was needed. The total wankers in power failed to re act. Not to mention It was a matter of months after the closure of the Rough site that the UK’s energy operator, National Grid, issued a formal warning that the country did not have enough gas to meet demand during the freezing “beast from the east” storm which battered the UK in March 2018. Any problem is squarely and firmly at the door with Number 10 on it. Nothing to do with Covid. Or Russia. And oh in terms of 4%. See link from the wankers who call themselves a government, you are a apologist for. In terms what is bought in. What part of it cannot be stored. Translates to you it can. In terms of inflation on other countries. It was external factors Not man made commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9523/#:~:text=UK%20reliance%20on%20Russian%20fossil,a%20combined%20%C2%A34.5%20billion. Japan 3% - Australia - 7% - S. Korea - 6% New Zealand 7% Norway - 6.9% And covid was dealt with By Quantative Easing, which was added to the already £800 billion created by the BofE that this bunch of wankers have left for your grandkids grandkids grandkids to pay off. Of course this will not be delightful news, but ignored by apologists. If you have not worked out yet that Brexit is a disaster you are really are beyond repair. Pre Brexit.. The UK economy was 90% of Germany. It is now 70% and the UK reliant by 80% on servicing and banking. That is not trade. As the wankers rant about deals that were already in place. And as you whoop in joy and delirious that some Johnny Foreigners inflation rates are higher than the UK. Caused by external not man made factors. The worse their economy becomes the worse the UK becomes. Trade only accounts for 20% of the UK economy. New car sales have by 30% since the end of transition. . Not to mention the UK has no schedule of concession to do trade deals with the WTO. It is a small insignificant minnow in a sea of sharks. As you are finding out. But not registering. Indeed the exact opposite, in total denial. As you keep blaming imaginary enemies. Lefties, Teachers, Doctors, Trade Union who look after nurses. Now the enemy of the state. Who will they fill your head with next. Unmarried mothers. Long while since they were to blame for all the ails of England. All that is happening is down down to righties. End off. You better hope Sunak does not upset the EU. And they finally stop passporting. It came close under that homophobic serial lying clown Johnston. And why Danger Mouse JRM and Redwood moved their loot to the EU. This is how they make there money. As you swallow their fanny hook line and sinker. www.politicshome.com/news/article/jacob-reesmogg-defends-own-firm-after-it-moved-to-dublin-amid-hard-brexit-fearswww.businessinsider.com/brexiteer-john-redwood-tells-investors-to-pull-money-out-of-the-uk-2017-11?r=US&IR=T
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 2, 2022 13:33:10 GMT
I'm not an apologist for anybody. You are just engaging on another anti-English fantasy. Look at the rest of the world you numpty. Inflation is happening all over the world. Did the Tories cause inflation in the US? lol. Inflation rates have doubled in 37 of 44 advanced economies over the past two years, according to Pew Research Center analysis.You are also wrong with your point about 4% from Russia. What about the 50% we buy in? Does your biased mind not understand that the rest of the world is chasing that supply too, so driving up the price for the UK? Have your biased ears not heard about global manufacturing shortages? lol You are a out and out apologist for this bunch of wankers and allow me to do a copy and paste. With a few added tweeks. Because in terms of numpties it has not changed since the last time I posted it. The inflation rate in the UK is totally man made in Westminster by the most useless bunch of wankers ever to call itself a government. What exactly are you cheering for. The UK relies only on 4% of energy from Russia. The EU relies heavily, to the tune of 39%. And that could have been sourced from elsewhere by the UK. The UK’s stores hold enough gas to meet the demand of four to five winter days, or just 1% of Europe’s total available storage. The Netherlands has capacity more than nine times the UK’s, while Germany’s is 16 times the size. The Rough storage facility, owned by Centrica, the parent company of British Gas, provided 70% of the UK gas storage capacity for more than 30 years before it shut in 2017 following a government decision not to subsidise the maintenance and upgrades needed to keep the site going. And like covid. Despite having a exercise to find out what was needed. The total wankers in power failed to re act. Not to mention It was a matter of months after the closure of the Rough site that the UK’s energy operator, National Grid, issued a formal warning that the country did not have enough gas to meet demand during the freezing “beast from the east” storm which battered the UK in March 2018. Any problem is squarely and firmly at the door with Number 10 on it. Nothing to do with Covid. Or Russia. And oh in terms of 4%. See link from the wankers who call themselves a government, you are a apologist for. In terms what is bought in. What part of it cannot be stored. Translates to you it can. In terms of inflation on other countries. It was external factors Not man made commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9523/#:~:text=UK%20reliance%20on%20Russian%20fossil,a%20combined%20%C2%A34.5%20billion. Japan 3% - Australia - 7% - S. Korea - 6% New Zealand 7% Norway - 6.9% And covid was dealt with By Quantative Easing, which was added to the already £800 billion created by the BofE that this bunch of wankers have left for your grandkids grandkids grandkids to pay off. Of course this will not be delightful news, but ignored by apologists. If you have not worked out yet that Brexit is a disaster you are really are beyond repair. Pre Brexit.. The UK economy was 90% of Germany. It is now 70% and the UK reliant by 80% on servicing and banking. That is not trade. As the wankers rant about deals that were already in place. And as you whoop in joy and delirious that some Johnny Foreigners inflation rates are higher than the UK. Caused by external not man made factors. The worse their economy becomes the worse the UK becomes. Trade only accounts for 20% of the UK economy. New car sales have by 30% since the end of transition. . Not to mention the UK has no schedule of concession to do trade deals with the WTO. It is a small insignificant minnow in a sea of sharks. As you are finding out. But not registering. Indeed the exact opposite, in total denial. As you keep blaming imaginary enemies. Lefties, Teachers, Doctors, Trade Union who look after nurses. Now the enemy of the state. Who will they fill your head with next. Unmarried mothers. Long while since they were to blame for all the ails of England. All that is happening is down down to righties. End off. You better hope Sunak does not upset the EU. And they finally stop passporting. It came close under that homophobic serial lying clown Johnston. And why Danger Mouse JRM and Redwood moved their loot to the EU. This is how they make there money. As you swallow their fanny hook line and sinker. www.politicshome.com/news/article/jacob-reesmogg-defends-own-firm-after-it-moved-to-dublin-amid-hard-brexit-fearswww.businessinsider.com/brexiteer-john-redwood-tells-investors-to-pull-money-out-of-the-uk-2017-11?r=US&IR=TIt's not that I don't agree that Truss made it worse, or that you may have a point on some issues... It comes down to this. When you make ridiculous statements like inflation is "entirely man made in Westminster" all your other arguments lose credibility. I've never voted Tory, but they are the government in power, so it is in everybodies interest that they get things right. Resorting to lying, instead of genuine scrutiny helps nobody, and it is lying because you are ignoring the 2006/7 financial crisis, COVID and Putin's illegal war.
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 2, 2022 13:42:29 GMT
For a start we hadn't even paid off ANY of the debt New Labour left us with. What after 12yrs tory years and Aurtristy measures we still in a financial mess and you try and say it not down to the tories You do understand that you have to reduce the deficit before you start paying off the debt? That is why the EU demanded austerity from EU members. I'm not blaming Labour for the financial crisis entirely, but they did ignore the irresponsible lending that was going on. That being said, ignoring the HUGE debt we were left with, and claiming there was any other way than austerity is just bonkers. Without that austerity the situation now would be even worse!! Fuck knows what we are going to do now, because the opposition parties have made the issue so toxic that living within our means is now impossible.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 2, 2022 14:00:56 GMT
Dodgy the Government had a choice between Aurtristy or investment. They chose the former.
Government investment would of led us coming out of the worldwide financial sooner rather than latter.
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Post by jaydee on Nov 2, 2022 17:06:14 GMT
It's not that I don't agree that Truss made it worse, or that you may have a point on some issues... It comes down to this. When you make ridiculous statements like inflation is "entirely man made in Westminster" all your other arguments lose credibility. I've never voted Tory, but they are the government in power, so it is in everybodies interest that they get things right. Resorting to lying, instead of genuine scrutiny helps nobody, and it is lying because you are ignoring the 2006/7 financial crisis, COVID and Putin's illegal war. It comes down to this. Your havering slastering insults and waffle that the UK did not rely on Russia with only 4%. Despite the fact confirmed by your own government. You are still in denial. Or the fact that the Uk could not store enough even for the beast from the east. And still in denial. Now there you go again calling me a liar despite the fact I shoved the evidence right in your face and from your own government. You are totally wrong and just plain not going to admit it. Life gets sad when you lie to yourself. And know it. Not to mention After 12 years how long does the present wankers need to get it right. We could start with Enoch Braverman as she invents enemies to distract you. And you missed out anti English again.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 2, 2022 17:33:27 GMT
Dodgy the Government had a choice between Aurtristy or investment. They chose the former. Government investment would of led us coming out of the worldwide financial sooner rather than latter. The EU mandated 'austerity' - they insisted on the deficit being reduced.
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 3, 2022 20:02:44 GMT
Dodgy the Government had a choice between Aurtristy or investment. They chose the former. Government investment would of led us coming out of the worldwide financial sooner rather than latter. No they didn't lol. Austerity was an EU policy, if you broke their financial rules, you faced big fines or being thrown out. Here we go, Keynesian Economics would have solved everything. Tell me then, why did the EU and literally no country use it? They all went with austerity. It like me saying if we had all eaten spinach, nobody would have died from COVID, and then arguing that you cannot prove me wrong because nobody tested it lol.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 3, 2022 20:11:12 GMT
You could not be more wrong. First of all the global pandemic meant we were forced to deficit spend, and the debts have to be paid back. That has pushed up taxation. Because of Amber Rud we followed an EU policy energy.ec.europa.eu/topics/oil-gas-and-coal/eu-coal-regions/coal-regions-transition_en divested of coal fired power stations and then some of our nuclear power stations, such as Dungeness went kaput. www.edfenergy.com/media-centre/news-releases/edf-decides-move-dungeness-b-defuelling-phaseIt is now being defueled. Because of this short sighted EU policy, a legacy from the 2010-2015 coalition we have a shortage of electrical generation and increased demand due to an increased takeup of electric cars. Because of this short sighted EU policy we are more dependent on gas than before. Gas prices have gone up because of the war. Brexit is not the cause of inflation. Brexit is not the problem. Get over Brexit.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 3, 2022 20:12:05 GMT
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 3, 2022 20:37:33 GMT
The uk unlike Greece and any other EU didnt have to choose Aurtristy measures because we didn't belong to the Euro .
These measures you refer to are to the Euro zones
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Post by Vinny on Nov 3, 2022 20:57:32 GMT
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Post by sheepy on Nov 3, 2022 20:59:00 GMT
Parliament voted for it all, almost unanimously, the EU has its own problems as they voted for it all on their own. You make your vote and takes your chances. Usually, it's all downhill from there.
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