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Post by buccaneer on Jun 10, 2023 23:25:32 GMT
The EU mismanaged its vaccine program as stated in the OP. From what we're seeing now in the aftermath of a global pandemic EU people will have a huge bill to pay for over the coming years for vaccines that are over ordered. Re-AZ well, the WHO even criticised the way the EU placed export controls on AZ vaccines, petty tantrums and threats to unilaterally invoke Art. 16. They've fucked vaccine procurement up in one way or another and there is no hiding from that. The EU didn't mismanage it. AZ broke its contract. There were no vaccines for the EU to manage or mismanage. Boris had them. And he still managed to turn the UK into Plague Island. What can you do with someone like that? He had an enormous stroke of luck, and he still managed to stack the bodies high. Like I said, there seems an ongoing truism about the EU's lack of: democracy, accountability and transparency. It will never change and the UK made the right choice in leaving it. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 10, 2023 23:52:33 GMT
The EU didn't mismanage it. AZ broke its contract. There were no vaccines for the EU to manage or mismanage. Boris had them. And he still managed to turn the UK into Plague Island. What can you do with someone like that? He had an enormous stroke of luck, and he still managed to stack the bodies high. Like I said, there seems an ongoing truism about the EU's lack of: democracy, accountability and transparency. It will never change and the UK made the right choice in leaving it. Lucky break for the EU. Saved themselves £20 Billion and countless lives, with the Torys out of the picture. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 10, 2023 23:56:17 GMT
What do you make of the EU's deal with Pfizer and the fact EU watchdogs have been ignored upon hearing the massive orders and no doubt costs?
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 11, 2023 0:02:56 GMT
What do you make of the EU's deal with Pfizer and the fact EU watchdogs have been ignored upon hearing the massive orders and no doubt costs? Still ain't got past the big fat lie in the OP, Bubs. Just admit the Belgian Court found in favour of the EU and we can do business, Bro. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 11, 2023 0:15:23 GMT
What do you make of the EU's deal with Pfizer and the fact EU watchdogs have been ignored upon hearing the massive orders and no doubt costs? Still ain't got past the big fat lie in the OP, Bubs. Just admit the Belgian Court found in favour of the EU and we can do business, Bro. Ah yes, thanks for tacitly confirming the EU's mismanaged its latest vaccine deal. I forgot you cannot admit its failings and have tried to divert this thread from the article in the OP because you cannot bring yourself to publicly admit it looks as though the EU's fucked up again. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 11, 2023 0:20:23 GMT
Still ain't got past the big fat lie in the OP, Bubs. Just admit the Belgian Court found in favour of the EU and we can do business, Bro. Ah yes, thanks for tacitly confirming the EU's mismanaged its latest vaccine deal. I forgot you cannot admit its failings and have tried to divert this thread from the article in the OP because you cannot bring yourself to publicly admit it looks as though the EU's fucked up again. What failings? All I saw was a whopper of a lie in the OP. I sort of zoned out after that, Bubs. Congrats to the EU. They really dodged a bullet on the whole Test and Trace app fiasco. A £22Billion cost to the country!!!!! |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 11, 2023 0:29:59 GMT
Ah yes, thanks for tacitly confirming the EU's mismanaged its latest vaccine deal. I forgot you cannot admit its failings and have tried to divert this thread from the article in the OP because you cannot bring yourself to publicly admit it looks as though the EU's fucked up again. What failings? All I saw was a whopper of a lie in the OP. I sort of zoned out after that, Bubs. Congrats to the EU. They really dodged a bullet on the whole Test and Trace app fiasco. A £22Billion cost to the country!!!!! If you cannot see its failings now, after six pages in this thread and its mismanagement and unprincipled behaviour during the pandemic, then there is no hope for discussion. Blatant ignorance and denial on your behalf doesn't deter the facts at hand. The UK's dodged an expensive bullet that would have been foisted upon British taxpayers by foreigners had the UK been part of the EU. And for that alone you should be thankful. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 11, 2023 0:45:13 GMT
What failings? All I saw was a whopper of a lie in the OP. I sort of zoned out after that, Bubs. Congrats to the EU. They really dodged a bullet on the whole Test and Trace app fiasco. A £22Billion cost to the country!!!!! If you cannot see its failings now, after six pages in this thread and its mismanagement and unprincipled behaviour during the pandemic, then there is no hope for discussion. Blatant ignorance and denial on your behalf doesn't deter the facts at hand. The UK's dodged an expensive bullet that would have been foisted upon British taxpayers by foreigners had the UK been part of the EU. And for that alone you should be thankful. Here's a tip, Bubs: if you want people to engage with your OP, try to base it on factual events. Good luck going forward! |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 11, 2023 1:28:38 GMT
If you cannot see its failings now, after six pages in this thread and its mismanagement and unprincipled behaviour during the pandemic, then there is no hope for discussion. Blatant ignorance and denial on your behalf doesn't deter the facts at hand. The UK's dodged an expensive bullet that would have been foisted upon British taxpayers by foreigners had the UK been part of the EU. And for that alone you should be thankful. Here's a tip, Bubs: if you want people to engage with your OP, try to base it on factual events. Good luck going forward! Here's a tip Hermy, if you can't criticise the EU for its obvious failings take Monte's advice and stick to transgender issues and other parts of the forum. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jun 11, 2023 6:27:10 GMT
You dodged the point. The UK govt's last words in public werr that they are going to sue for the cost of the PPE...except some of it was state provided and some was privately provided. So what happened to the claim for compensation? No one knows. The issue disappeared behind cloded doors. Lack of accountability, democracy and transparency plus a huge dollop of international embarrassment. I told you. International negotiations are not made public until there is an agreement. Ever. Anywhere. For reasons of security and potential corruption. Now wind your neck in and pick a subject worth discussing. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 11, 2023 8:45:25 GMT
Here's a tip, Bubs: if you want people to engage with your OP, try to base it on factual events. Good luck going forward! Here's a tip Hermy, if you can't criticise the EU for its obvious failings take Monte's advice and stick to transgender issues and other parts of the forum. The EU had a lucky escape. They could have got landed with a bill for £20 billion. And it's Freudy Hermy to you, Bubbles. |
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