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Post by jonksy on May 28, 2023 15:07:27 GMT
Is there a Lickleyhood that you will post some facts sun shine? I did. You just claimed it wasn't true, screamed lefty and then call me names. You wanna debate, provide an alternative fact. How many people were asked for your bullshit poll? Where were they asked how were the questions put to them? You maybe taken in with your bullshit selective poll but those who live in the real world treat it with the contempt it deserves. |
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Post by jonksy on May 28, 2023 15:09:33 GMT
Is there a Lickleyhood that you will post some facts sun shine? I did. You just claimed it wasn't true, screamed lefty and then call me names. You wanna debate, provide an alternative fact. You posted totality rant bullshit sun shine. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 28, 2023 15:25:26 GMT
I did. You just claimed it wasn't true, screamed lefty and then call me names. You wanna debate, provide an alternative fact. How many people were asked for your bullshit poll? Where were they asked how were the questions put to them? You maybe taken in with your bullshit selective poll but those who live in the real world treat it with the contempt it deserves. So provide an alternative poll showing that more people think that Brexit has been a success then. It's not difficult. |
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Post by Toreador on May 28, 2023 15:35:29 GMT
Well for one polls are mostly made up and two there was never any intention to make it successful. Because obviously people don't have a clue what is good for them.One of the reasons I don't like referendums ^^^ Why did you vote in one? |
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Post by Pacifico on May 28, 2023 16:58:21 GMT
Are we in the EU - Yes or No? If No - they its fairly obvious that the campaign to leave the EU has been a resounding success... Are you mixing up something being achieved with something being a success? 🤔 If you campaign for something and that something happened is your campaign a success or a failure? I think you are confusing what the government does with Brexit - Brexit has been achieved and is now history. What the Government chooses to do (or not) from now on is nothing to do with Brexit. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 28, 2023 17:11:30 GMT
Are you mixing up something being achieved with something being a success? 🤔 If you campaign for something and that something happened is your campaign a success or a failure? I think you are confusing what the government does with Brexit - Brexit has been achieved and is now history. What the Government chooses to do (or not) from now on is nothing to do with Brexit. Hmm. So why doesn't the poll I showed show 100% of people think Brexit was a success then? 🤔 |
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Post by Pacifico on May 28, 2023 17:16:30 GMT
If you campaign for something and that something happened is your campaign a success or a failure? I think you are confusing what the government does with Brexit - Brexit has been achieved and is now history. What the Government chooses to do (or not) from now on is nothing to do with Brexit. Hmm. So why doesn't the poll I showed show 100% of people think Brexit was a success then? 🤔 I suspect they are just as confused as you. Take immigration - the Brexit campaign said we could control immigration once we left the EU. Well that was perfectly true, we can control immigration - and the current UK Government has decided to allow 600,000 migrants a year to enter the UK. The current decisions of the UK Government are the responsibility of the current UK Government - not a campaign that finished 6 years ago. |
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Post by Toreador on May 28, 2023 17:29:08 GMT
If you campaign for something and that something happened is your campaign a success or a failure? I think you are confusing what the government does with Brexit - Brexit has been achieved and is now history. What the Government chooses to do (or not) from now on is nothing to do with Brexit. Hmm. So why doesn't the poll I showed show 100% of people think Brexit was a success then? 🤔 The number of people denying Brexit has been unsuccessful does not mean it is or will unsuccessful but you are welcome to hang on to your thread of despair. |
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Post by patman post on May 28, 2023 17:45:07 GMT
Hmm. So why doesn't the poll I showed show 100% of people think Brexit was a success then? 🤔 I suspect they are just as confused as you. Take immigration - the Brexit campaign said we could control immigration once we left the EU. Well that was perfectly true, we can control immigration - and the current UK Government has decided to allow 600,000 migrants a year to enter the UK. The current decisions of the UK Government are the responsibility of the current UK Government - not a campaign that finished 6 years ago. Brilliant.
So the government now wants to populate the equivalent of a new Sheffield every year, while the PM is saying the numbers are too high, and he wants to bring them down.
Isn't something out of balance...?
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Post by Toreador on May 28, 2023 17:50:42 GMT
I suspect they are just as confused as you. Take immigration - the Brexit campaign said we could control immigration once we left the EU. Well that was perfectly true, we can control immigration - and the current UK Government has decided to allow 600,000 migrants a year to enter the UK. The current decisions of the UK Government are the responsibility of the current UK Government - not a campaign that finished 6 years ago. Brilliant.
So the government now wants to populate the equivalent of a new Sheffield every year, while the PM is saying the numbers are too high, and he wants to bring them down.
Isn't something out of balance...?
600,000 is the approximate number who die every year in Britain. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 28, 2023 17:52:34 GMT
I suspect they are just as confused as you. Take immigration - the Brexit campaign said we could control immigration once we left the EU. Well that was perfectly true, we can control immigration - and the current UK Government has decided to allow 600,000 migrants a year to enter the UK. The current decisions of the UK Government are the responsibility of the current UK Government - not a campaign that finished 6 years ago. Brilliant.
So the government now wants to populate the equivalent of a new Sheffield every year, while the PM is saying the numbers are too high, and he wants to bring them down.
Isn't something out of balance...?
I think that the current immigration policy is a disaster - but that is the responsibility of those in power today. For example - if Sunak suddenly grew a pair and blocked all immigration would you do a rapid 180 and declare that a success for Brexit? |
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Post by patman post on May 28, 2023 18:44:47 GMT
Brilliant.
So the government now wants to populate the equivalent of a new Sheffield every year, while the PM is saying the numbers are too high, and he wants to bring them down.
Isn't something out of balance...?
I think that the current immigration policy is a disaster - but that is the responsibility of those in power today. For example - if Sunak suddenly grew a pair and blocked all immigration would you do a rapid 180 and declare that a success for Brexit? I don’t see that Brexit could ever have been a success without much more planning to take advantage of whatever benefits the U.K. was supposed to take advantage of and offsetting the extra costs, and replacement of the trade links lost. But the main snag is the inability to satisfy the significant number of Leave voters for who the main reason for voting as they did was to cut immigration… |
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Post by patman post on May 28, 2023 18:47:18 GMT
Brilliant.
So the government now wants to populate the equivalent of a new Sheffield every year, while the PM is saying the numbers are too high, and he wants to bring them down.
Isn't something out of balance...?
600,000 is the approximate number who die every year in Britain. In 2021, there were 624,828 live births in England and Wales alone… |
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Post by Toreador on May 28, 2023 19:06:16 GMT
600,000 is the approximate number who die every year in Britain. In 2021, there were 624,828 live births in England and Wales alone… Yes I agree but we both know which figure they'll use to justify importing people. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 28, 2023 21:22:54 GMT
I think that the current immigration policy is a disaster - but that is the responsibility of those in power today. For example - if Sunak suddenly grew a pair and blocked all immigration would you do a rapid 180 and declare that a success for Brexit? I don’t see that Brexit could ever have been a success without much more planning to take advantage of whatever benefits the U.K. was supposed to take advantage of and offsetting the extra costs, and replacement of the trade links lost. But the main snag is the inability to satisfy the significant number of Leave voters for who the main reason for voting as they did was to cut immigration… How does that work in a Parliamentary democracy where no Parliament can bind the decisions taken by subsequent Parliaments?. The political decisions taken today are the responsibility of the Parliament of today - not the ones 5 or 10 years ago. |
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