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Post by Vinny on May 29, 2023 15:16:12 GMT
It's actually a CFE-LSE study. And if it's good enough for The Guardian, The Independent and other major publications? Then it's good enough for me. The CFE conclusions are safe and reliable This is the modelling of the LSE forecast - they are saying that the without Brexit UK food inflation would be the yellow bar on the left - we would have seen almost 50% less inflation than Germany and over 30% less than the EU average. How likely do you think that forecast is? We'd have been in the same shit as Germany.
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Post by Pacifico on May 29, 2023 21:41:55 GMT
This is the modelling of the LSE forecast - they are saying that the without Brexit UK food inflation would be the yellow bar on the left - we would have seen almost 50% less inflation than Germany and over 30% less than the EU average. How likely do you think that forecast is? That's the modelling, but are they the assumptions? Maybe you could share with us or direct us to the actual methodology and assumption sheets used by CFE and maybe point to where where they say that they used the ONS and Eurostat data and chart showing the 2019-2023 cumulative % increase in food prices. You were citing the CFE model as accurate - are you telling us you dont know what methology or assumptions they used?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2023 22:31:14 GMT
That's the modelling, but are they the assumptions? Maybe you could share with us or direct us to the actual methodology and assumption sheets used by CFE and maybe point to where where they say that they used the ONS and Eurostat data and chart showing the 2019-2023 cumulative % increase in food prices. You were citing the CFE model as accurate - are you telling us you dont know what methology or assumptions they used? So. Can I expect you to share with us or direct us to the actual methodology and assumption sheets used by CFE and maybe point to where where they say that they used the ONS and Eurostat data and chart showing the 2019-2023 cumulative % increase in food prices? Tomorrow would be fine.
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Post by Toreador on May 30, 2023 5:56:48 GMT
£7B we've had to pay extra to keep trade barriers up. www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/24/brexit-food-trade-barriers-have-cost-uk-households-7bn-report-findsBrexit food trade barriers have cost UK households £7bn, report finds LSE researchers estimate that extra barriers on EU food imports have pushed up bills by £250 on average British households have paid £7bn since Brexit to cover the extra cost of trade barriers on food imports from the EU, according to researchers at the London School of Economics (LSE). The university’s latest report estimating the impact of leaving the bloc on UK food prices found that trade barriers were consistently hampering imports, pushing up bills by an average £250. The cost of food in the UK had rocketed by 25% since 2019, the researchers calculated, but if the post-Brexit trade restrictions were not in place then this increase would be only 17% – nearly a third lower. Adding up the impact on all British households suggested they had paid an extra £6.95bn as a consequence, they said. “Between December 2019 and March 2023 food prices rose by almost 25 percentage points. This analysis suggests that in the absence of Brexit this figure would be 8 percentage points (30%) lower,” the report found. The International Monetary Fund has urged the UK government to lower non-tariff barriers to trade to lower inflation. In a health check on the UK economy, the Washington-based body said the government should work to bring down inflation generated by trade barriers with its main trade partners. The UK has the highest food inflation rate in the industrialised world, according to recent inflation data. In the latest figures from the Office for National Statistics, the consumer prices index measure of inflation fell to 8.7% from 10.1% in March, but food inflation over the past year remained elevated at 19%. Brexit trade barriers include extra paperwork to validate goods and veterinary checks on livestock.The L in LSE means left-wing.
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Post by Pacifico on May 30, 2023 7:03:01 GMT
You were citing the CFE model as accurate - are you telling us you dont know what methology or assumptions they used? So. Can I expect you to share with us or direct us to the actual methodology and assumption sheets used by CFE and maybe point to where where they say that they used the ONS and Eurostat data and chart showing the 2019-2023 cumulative % increase in food prices? Tomorrow would be fine. Try reading your own link. “Between December 2019 and March 2023 food prices rose by almost 25 percentage points. This analysis suggests that in the absence of Brexit this figure would be 8 percentage points (30%) lower,” the report found. 8pp gives you the yellow bar on the chart - so 50% less inflation than Germany. You've been had mate..
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2023 11:38:40 GMT
So. Can I expect you to share with us or direct us to the actual methodology and assumption sheets used by CFE and maybe point to where where they say that they used the ONS and Eurostat data and chart showing the 2019-2023 cumulative % increase in food prices? Tomorrow would be fine. Try reading your own link. “Between December 2019 and March 2023 food prices rose by almost 25 percentage points. This analysis suggests that in the absence of Brexit this figure would be 8 percentage points (30%) lower,” the report found. 8pp gives you the yellow bar on the chart - so 50% less inflation than Germany. You've been had mate.. I've been had, what? It's you who's unable to clarify my query and who has chosen to skirt around it.
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Post by Vinny on May 30, 2023 11:47:11 GMT
Safe to say that this thread title is a lie.
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Post by Pacifico on May 30, 2023 11:55:14 GMT
Try reading your own link. “Between December 2019 and March 2023 food prices rose by almost 25 percentage points. This analysis suggests that in the absence of Brexit this figure would be 8 percentage points (30%) lower,” the report found. 8pp gives you the yellow bar on the chart - so 50% less inflation than Germany. You've been had mate.. I've been had, what? It's you who's unable to clarify my query and who has chosen to skirt around it. LOL - you were done up like a Kipper.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2023 12:06:31 GMT
I've been had, what? It's you who's unable to clarify my query and who has chosen to skirt around it. LOL - you were done up like a Kipper. You'd say that, wouldn't you? Can't clarify, won't clarify.
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Post by Pacifico on May 30, 2023 16:38:58 GMT
LOL - you were done up like a Kipper. You'd say that, wouldn't you? Can't clarify, won't clarify. What do you want me to clarify? - if you want to believe that in 2016 we were on a trajectory to have half the inflation of Germany by this year then you are perfectly free to do so. People can believe all kinds of wacky things
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2023 16:46:32 GMT
You'd say that, wouldn't you? Can't clarify, won't clarify. What do you want me to clarify? - if you want to believe that in 2016 we were on a trajectory to have half the inflation of Germany by this year then you are perfectly free to do so. People can believe all kinds of wacky things Oh, now, he says he doesn't know.
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Post by Pacifico on May 30, 2023 16:57:19 GMT
What do you want me to clarify? - if you want to believe that in 2016 we were on a trajectory to have half the inflation of Germany by this year then you are perfectly free to do so. People can believe all kinds of wacky things Oh, now, he says he doesn't know. Doesn't know what? - didn't you understand 'What do you want me to clarify?' Shall I translate it into another language?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2023 17:39:04 GMT
Oh, now, he says he doesn't know. Doesn't know what? - didn't you understand 'What do you want me to clarify?' Shall I translate it into another language? Please.
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Post by buccaneer on May 30, 2023 20:58:21 GMT
Game. Set. Match.
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Post by Pacifico on May 30, 2023 21:34:58 GMT
Doesn't know what? - didn't you understand 'What do you want me to clarify?' Shall I translate it into another language? Please. Well if you cannot understand the simple phrase 'What do you want me to clarify?' - then it's fairly obvious why you were hoodwinked.. Shame..
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