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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 25, 2022 1:26:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 3:16:50 GMT
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 25, 2022 3:53:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 4:00:41 GMT
Why would anyone want to blame some of the ridiculous things you suggest on Brexit? We can, though, blame queues at Dover, the Irish border, high food prices, lower food standards, fishing communities are facing ruin, difficulties in exporting and importing, lack of confidence in the UK, the list goes on and on. |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 25, 2022 5:46:25 GMT
Why would anyone want to blame some of the ridiculous things you suggest on Brexit? We can, though, blame queues at Dover, the Irish border, high food prices, lower food standards, fishing communities are facing ruin, difficulties in exporting and importing, lack of confidence in the UK, the list goes on and on. Because the lengths people will go to in order to blame Brexit on something wouldn't surprise me in the least. Like you for example, you think you can blame Brexit on high food prices (when inflation is the cause) and difficulties exporting and importing - where did you read that, front page of the Independent? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 6:08:21 GMT
Why would anyone want to blame some of the ridiculous things you suggest on Brexit? We can, though, blame queues at Dover, the Irish border, high food prices, lower food standards, fishing communities are facing ruin, difficulties in exporting and importing, lack of confidence in the UK, the list goes on and on. Because the lengths people will go to in order to blame Brexit on something wouldn't surprise me in the least. Like you for example, you think you can blame Brexit on high food prices (when inflation is the cause) and difficulties exporting and importing - where did you read that, front page of the Independent? Difficulties importing and exporting is part of the trade barriers we raised against ourselves. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Oct 25, 2022 6:13:49 GMT
Inflation has been (predictably) caused by:
- Massive QE from the BoE (where they bought up government debt from the banks). The ECB also embarked on massive QE (over 2 trillion euros). If you expand the money supply it always eventually leads to inflation.
- The cut in production caused by Covid lockdowns also led to supply shortages - which also causes inflation.
- The war in Ukraine also led to supply shortages, particularly in grain
- The sanctions against Russia then led to oil and gas shortages in Europe raising prices for Europe (including the UK)
- The premature reliance of the UK on "renewables" meant that we abandoned our own gas production and storage - leading to huge rises in price.
I don't see any way Brexit could have been a factor - and you'll see the same inflation problem all across Europe. In fact Holland has the highest rate of all, 17% last time I looked, and they haven't left the EU.
And there's a very good case to made that the EU itself caused the invasion of Ukraine (which has been a major destabilising factor Europe) by its encouragement of Ukraine to join the EU. This has enraged Russia who fear the spread of NATO into Eastern Europe. EU imperialism is a major cause of inflation.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 25, 2022 6:46:05 GMT
With inflation at 10% the highest level since 1982 you got to ask what is the factor behind the increase? Is it higher wages , increase in food/Goods the high energy cost or covid and the Ukraine war.Whilst they may have a little impact you got to ask what is the main driver of the increase in inflation? Former Bank of England policymaker Adam Posen insists 80% of high price growth is due to Britain leaving EU. UK inflation jumped to over 10 per cent in July, its highest level since February 1982, intensifying the squeeze on households. Sorry but as we currently have the same level of inflation as the EU I struggle to believe that if we were actually in the EU our inflation rate would drop by 80% |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 25, 2022 6:57:48 GMT
Because the lengths people will go to in order to blame Brexit on something wouldn't surprise me in the least. Like you for example, you think you can blame Brexit on high food prices (when inflation is the cause) and difficulties exporting and importing - where did you read that, front page of the Independent? Difficulties importing and exporting is part of the trade barriers we raised against ourselves. The UK doesn't have "difficulties" importing or exporting to the the EU, US or anywhere else in the world. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 7:07:44 GMT
Difficulties importing and exporting is part of the trade barriers we raised against ourselves. The UK doesn't have "difficulties" importing or exporting to the the EU, US or anywhere else in the world. So, leaving the customs union and the single market has made no difference to our trading with the EU? |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 25, 2022 7:10:52 GMT
What difficulties do we have importing from the EU?
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 25, 2022 7:33:35 GMT
Lol what excuses the Brexiters make without evidence to back up there ridiculous clams.
Has for The hike in Gas prices ive already proven that is a wrong Claim has Gas prices have been increasing over the last five years.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 25, 2022 7:37:04 GMT
Lol what excuses the Brexiters make without evidence to back up there ridiculous clams. Has for The hike in Gas prices ive already proven that is a wrong Claim has Gas prices have been increasing over the last five years.What prices haven't? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2022 7:42:17 GMT
Lol what excuses the Brexiters make without evidence to back up there ridiculous clams. Has for The hike in Gas prices ive already proven that is a wrong Claim has Gas prices have been increasing over the last five years. Who's mentioned the gas prices? |
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Post by steppenwolf on Oct 25, 2022 8:14:58 GMT
The UK doesn't have "difficulties" importing or exporting to the the EU, US or anywhere else in the world. So, leaving the customs union and the single market has made no difference to our trading with the EU? It's made little difference to the import of goods from the EU mainly because we don't enforce our borders. For example motor manufacturers say it hasn't affected their supply of cars at all. It's caused a 2.5% drop in the value of exported goods. Some exporters have simply stopped exported certain goods because either the EU have banned them (e.g. shellfish) or because delays at borders make the export of some perishable goods unviable. This is just deliberate EU policy to try to damage our economy, but the damage is limited. |
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