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Post by steppenwolf on May 11, 2023 13:29:36 GMT
What struck me about Welby's nonsensical speech in the Lord's is that he's completely out of his depth when talking about politics and he's laid himself open to a vast number of angles of attack.
So why didn't he choose an area in which he is supposed to have some expertise - religion - to talk about the subject. Why did he NEVER mention religion. It can't have escaped his notice that the vast majority of the people who are coming here claiming asylum are muslims. The only non-muslim groups are the Ukrainians (who genuinely are fleeing war) and the Albanians (who are coming here to work in the black economy/crime). The rest are muslims.
So why are muslims so keen to come here and why are they almost all relatively young men? There are many reasons but the one that should interest Welby is that most of the muslim countries are involved in sectarian civil war - Sunni againt Shia or whatever other sect - or muslim warfare against other religions like Christianity, Hinduism or Buddhism. Welby must be aware of this. And they're stirring up these tensions in North Africa as well as the Middle East.
So why does he seem to think that it's such a good idea to open our borders to these people. He must know that these sectarian and religious wars will soon erupt over here - we've already seen muslim and Hindu unrest in various towns. They also - as we know at the cost of hundreds of lives - engage in terrorism all over the world.
Welby has said previously that Islam cannot dissociate itself from terrorism so he knows of this problem. So why does he now never talk about the muslim religion? Isn't that his duty?
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Post by walterpaisley on May 11, 2023 14:49:37 GMT
Why is it the duty of the representative of one religion to talk about a different religion?
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Post by patman post on May 11, 2023 22:45:58 GMT
What struck me about Welby's nonsensical speech in the Lord's is that he's completely out of his depth when talking about politics and he's laid himself open to a vast number of angles of attack. So why didn't he choose an area in which he is supposed to have some expertise - religion - to talk about the subject. Why did he NEVER mention religion. It can't have escaped his notice blah blah blah, etc It cannot have escaped your notice that the overwhelming number of ministers and cabinet members are chosen precisely because they have no knowledge or experience of the sectors they’re meant to run. Why should the public or even members of the legislature feel inhibited in giving their views about how the country is run and the decisions it’s government makes…?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2023 6:06:49 GMT
What struck me about Welby's nonsensical speech in the Lord's is that he's completely out of his depth when talking about politics and he's laid himself open to a vast number of angles of attack. So why didn't he choose an area in which he is supposed to have some expertise - religion - to talk about the subject. Why did he NEVER mention religion. It can't have escaped his notice that the vast majority of the people who are coming here claiming asylum are muslims. The only non-muslim groups are the Ukrainians (who genuinely are fleeing war) and the Albanians (who are coming here to work in the black economy/crime). The rest are muslims. So why are muslims so keen to come here and why are they almost all relatively young men? There are many reasons but the one that should interest Welby is that most of the muslim countries are involved in sectarian civil war - Sunni againt Shia or whatever other sect - or muslim warfare against other religions like Christianity, Hinduism or Buddhism. Welby must be aware of this. And they're stirring up these tensions in North Africa as well as the Middle East. So why does he seem to think that it's such a good idea to open our borders to these people. He must know that these sectarian and religious wars will soon erupt over here - we've already seen muslim and Hindu unrest in various towns. They also - as we know at the cost of hundreds of lives - engage in terrorism all over the world. Welby has said previously that Islam cannot dissociate itself from terrorism so he knows of this problem. So why does he now never talk about the muslim religion? Isn't that his duty? Err, he was responding to the scheduled topic.
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Post by steppenwolf on May 12, 2023 7:43:55 GMT
Bunch of thickoes.
It must be blindingly obvious even to stupid people that, with the population of muslims in this country nearly doubling every 10 years, the country will be a majority muslim country well within 50 years. And the lesson of history is that when countries become majority muslim other religions are persecuted and eventually eliminated. Christianity has been mainly removed from the Middle East. Wherever Islam takes over there is total intolerance of other religions and sectarian warfare breaks out until only one sect is left.
So you'd think that the leader of the Church of England might be concerned about the mass illegal immigration of a bunch of intolerant muslims. Or maybe he's as thick as you lot.
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Post by walterpaisley on May 12, 2023 7:49:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2023 9:20:08 GMT
Bunch of thickoes. It must be blindingly obvious even to stupid people that, with the population of muslims in this country nearly doubling every 10 years, the country will be a majority muslim country well within 50 years. And the lesson of history is that when countries become majority muslim other religions are persecuted and eventually eliminated. Christianity has been mainly removed from the Middle East. Wherever Islam takes over there is total intolerance of other religions and sectarian warfare breaks out until only one sect is left. So you'd think that the leader of the Church of England might be concerned about the mass illegal immigration of a bunch of intolerant muslims. Or maybe he's as thick as you lot. More thought crimes.
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Post by Orac on May 12, 2023 9:21:09 GMT
A fact check on the future. How novel.
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Post by walterpaisley on May 12, 2023 9:23:18 GMT
A fact check on the future. How novel. Funny how the Far Right will believe almost anything aside from fact checkers. They HATE fact checkers.
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Post by Orac on May 12, 2023 9:29:11 GMT
A fact check on the future. How novel. Funny how the Far Right will believe almost anything aside from fact checkers. They HATE fact checkers. You need to forget politics, take a step back from the problem and have a think. You are being asked to believe that something in the future has been ascertained as false.
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Post by walterpaisley on May 12, 2023 9:41:54 GMT
In that case, one may as well assert that, at some point in the future, green monkeys will march out of the king's arse.
And if a fact checker says that ain't going to happen, you can accuse them of trying to "predict the future".
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Post by Orac on May 12, 2023 10:05:46 GMT
In that case, one may as well assert that, at some point in the future, green monkeys will march out of the king's arse. And if a fact checker says that ain't going to happen, you can accuse them of trying to "predict the future". That's not remotely analogous but that doesn't matter - the no monkey claim here is still an editorial rather than a fact check
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Post by Dan Dare on May 12, 2023 13:37:53 GMT
According to the 2021 census the twenty local authorities with the highest proportion of Muslims are: London Borough of Tower Hamlets: 39.9% (123,912) Blackburn with Darwen: 35.0% (54,146) London Borough of Newham: 34.8% (122,146) Luton: 32.9% (74,191) London Borough of Redbridge: 31.3% (97,068) City of Bradford: 30.5% (166,846) Birmingham: 29.9% (341,811) Slough: 29.4% (46,661) Pendle: 26.0% (24,900) Metropolitan Borough of Oldham: 24.4% (59,031) Leicester: 23.5% (86,443) Manchester: 22.3% (122,962) London Borough of Waltham Forest: 21.6% (60,157) London Borough of Brent: 21.4% (72,574) City of Westminster: 20.0% (40,873) Bolton: 19.9% (58,997) London Borough of Ealing: 18.8% (68,907) Rochdale: 18.8% (42,121) London Borough of Enfield: 18.6% (61,477) Kirklees: 18.5% (80,046) Camden: 16.1% (33,830) Harrow: 15.9% (41,503) Sandwell: 13.4% (45,763) London Borough of Hackney: 13.3% (34,578) London Borough of Haringey: 12.6% (33,295) Nottingham: 12.2% (39,540)
A number of these LAs are likely to become majority Muslim well before 2050.
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Post by walterpaisley on May 12, 2023 15:04:22 GMT
I would respond, but I'd probably get "reported" again.
Snowflakes, eh?
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Post by Dan Dare on May 12, 2023 15:21:12 GMT
Then I'll respond on your behalf.
"So what", says Wally.
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