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Post by piglet on May 8, 2023 13:56:38 GMT
I struggle to understand it, and am asking for help. I think its best to take it literally, like taking Lineker and King Charles at face value. That their prime concern is " these poor people", in terms of where they were born, how awful it is, and how they suffer.
Totally disregarding any other factor, can they really be this simple?
Like Corbyn standing up in parliament reading letters from Gladys in Doncaster.
Other factors include, scale, we are small, cost, we are broke, cities are over crowded, hospitals at breaking point, schools over whelmed, roads clogged, greenery dissapearing, cities getting bigger exponentially for housing, and becoming ghettos, crime spiralling, etc.
Why are they blind to this? It is true that many are aware but use any tool at hand to destroy our society, and are pleased at chaos. Im sure that when Russia falls the money will dry up funding " the left".
That leaves Charles and Lineker as first rate, top hole idiots if they are not Russian stooges. There is no doubt Charles is a moron, not sure about Lineker, communist?, probably. They cant be crying into their tea because of the " suffering " of immigrants....surely.
Have i left anything out?, like putting feeling above logic? Childishness?, sillyness, cretinism, corrupted, rats with a gold tooth, donkeys, curs, dumb, ignorant, quacks, stupid, prostitutes to reds, Jeremy Corbyns in drag, and a thick finger up their own ass.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2023 14:22:48 GMT
Yes, your brain.😂
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Post by Orac on May 9, 2023 8:27:08 GMT
I struggle to understand it, and am asking for help. I think its best to take it literally, like taking Lineker and King Charles at face value. That their prime concern is " these poor people", in terms of where they were born, how awful it is, and how they suffer. Totally disregarding any other factor, can they really be this simple? Like Corbyn standing up in parliament reading letters from Gladys in Doncaster. Other factors include, scale, we are small, cost, we are broke, cities are over crowded, hospitals at breaking point, schools over whelmed, roads clogged, greenery dissapearing, cities getting bigger exponentially for housing, and becoming ghettos, crime spiralling, etc. Why are they blind to this? It is true that many are aware but use any tool at hand to destroy our society, and are pleased at chaos. Im sure that when Russia falls the money will dry up funding " the left". That leaves Charles and Lineker as first rate, top hole idiots if they are not Russian stooges. There is no doubt Charles is a moron, not sure about Lineker, communist?, probably. They cant be crying into their tea because of the " suffering " of immigrants....surely. Have i left anything out?, like putting feeling above logic? Childishness?, sillyness, cretinism, corrupted, rats with a gold tooth, donkeys, curs, dumb, ignorant, quacks, stupid, prostitutes to reds, Jeremy Corbyns in drag, and a thick finger up their own ass. It's a complex issue. There are a few layers and the affected people do tend to fall into slightly different camps. While there is nothing explicit in socialism that demands populations must exterminate their societies by allowing unfettered entry, societies that claimed to be socialistic often used such notions to suppress populations they found inconvenient - i.e. to flood out the uncooperative population so they become socially disenfranchised in a territory they previously had domination over. Think of it like moving prisoners around in a prison so that prisoners who could give you problems all ended up isolated and away from each other. I think it's reasonable to assume now that western European type societies have now been identified as irredeemably 'problematic' to the 'eventual and inevitable' victory of socialism and so have been targeted for demolition / erasure. Of course, this is at a very high level view and the people who hitch themselves to this nonsense have varying personal motivations. |
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Post by Einhorn on May 9, 2023 10:05:34 GMT
Good analogy. The US is probably the most extreme example of capitalism today. There are more than 2 million people in their prisons. |
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Post by Orac on May 9, 2023 10:43:24 GMT
You feel prisons are a suitable analogy for prisons. I guess we all have to start somewhere.
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Post by Einhorn on May 9, 2023 11:15:58 GMT
You feel prisons are a suitable analogy for prisons. I guess we all have to start somewhere. Yep. You talked about isolating one part of the populace from another. Look no further than the US, where 2 million undesirables have been isolated. |
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Post by Orac on May 9, 2023 11:22:10 GMT
You feel prisons are a suitable analogy for prisons. I guess we all have to start somewhere. Yep. You talked about isolating one part of the populace from another. Look no further than the US, where 2 million undesirables have been isolated. Of course a prison is reminiscent of a prison. |
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Post by Einhorn on May 9, 2023 11:48:06 GMT
Yep. You talked about isolating one part of the populace from another. Look no further than the US, where 2 million undesirables have been isolated. Of course a prison is reminiscent of a prison.It sure is. You said 'think of it like a prison'. I responded that that was very apt, given that the world's leading capitalist country actually uses prisons to achieve that end. Do you think you can live with that? It's a wonderful way of massaging unemployment figures, too. Stick 2 million of your citizens in prison and you should have little problem achieving full employment. But the UK hasn't missed that trick, what with it and Spain having the highest incarceration rates in Western Europe. I don't have a major problem with late capitalism*, but it can be a bit tricksy. *It sure beats early capitalism and early communism. |
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Post by Orac on May 9, 2023 12:23:26 GMT
Of course a prison is reminiscent of a prison.It sure is. You said 'think of it like a prison'. I responded that that was very apt, given that the world's leading capitalist country actually uses prisons to achieve that end. Do you think you can live with that? It's not a coincidence, it's the reason I used the prisoner analogy. This analogy probably has technical weaknesses though - I feel that deliberately using one population of prisoners to conduct some kind of assault on a prisoner identity / ethnicity, would be illegal in most Western countries. |
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Post by Einhorn on May 9, 2023 13:05:17 GMT
It sure is. You said 'think of it like a prison'. I responded that that was very apt, given that the world's leading capitalist country actually uses prisons to achieve that end. Do you think you can live with that? I feel that deliberately using one population of prisoners to conduct some kind of assault on a prisoner identity / ethnicity, would be illegal in most Western countries. What? |
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Post by Orac on May 9, 2023 13:17:36 GMT
I feel that deliberately using one population of prisoners to conduct some kind of assault on a prisoner identity / ethnicity, would be illegal in most Western countries. What? It's a bit theoretical and I'm not certain it is true, but, (for example) - if a prison decided some part of the facility had become (or was) ' hideously Jewish' and decided to engage in actions designed to adjust this situation for no other reason than to prevent / discourage the Jewishness, this would probably be illegal in most Western countries. |
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Post by borchester on May 10, 2023 20:19:19 GMT
I struggle to understand it, and am asking for help. It is easy enough.
Just before the Coronation you were oily round your local supermarket, counting every morsel of food and drop of drink in the customers' shopping trolley and acting like a right little cut price commissar. In short, if you are looking for an example of the socialist mind, look no further
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Post by thomas on May 12, 2023 9:15:53 GMT
I struggle to understand it, and am asking for help. It is easy enough.
Just before the Coronation you were oily round your local supermarket, counting every morsel of food and drop of drink in the customers' shopping trolley and acting like a right little cut price commissar. In short, if you are looking for an example of the socialist mind, look no further
i love the socialists when they say tax the tory pensioners till the pips squeak. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2023 7:22:32 GMT
It is easy enough.
Just before the Coronation you were oily round your local supermarket, counting every morsel of food and drop of drink in the customers' shopping trolley and acting like a right little cut price commissar. In short, if you are looking for an example of the socialist mind, look no further
i love the socialists when they say tax the tory pensioners till the pips squeak. Have the Tory pensioners got a lot of pips? |
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Post by thomas on May 13, 2023 12:36:58 GMT
i love the socialists when they say tax the tory pensioners till the pips squeak. Have the Tory pensioners got a lot of pips? plenty mate. Those second homes , and cash stuffed mattresses need looked at when keir takes power. |
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