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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2023 14:49:45 GMT
Gorillas are apes not monkeys. Gammons can be any race. Apes then. No they can’t . Agreed:
"Gammon is a pejorative slang term used to describe white, middle-aged English men, who skew conservative on the political spectrum and support the United Kingdom separation from the European Union. The word compares these men to the pink hue of a cured pork loin that shares the name."
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Post by Bentley on May 2, 2023 14:50:12 GMT
Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. The term refers in particular to the colour of a person's flushed face when expressing their strong opinions, as compared to the type of pork of the same name.[1][2] It is characterised in this context by the Oxford English Dictionary as occurring "in various parasynthetic adjectives referring to particularly reddish or florid complexions".[3]
In 2018, it became particularly known as a term to describe either those on the political right or those who supported Brexit.[1][4] Due to its referencing of skin colour, there is controversy as to whether the term is racist.
2004, in a section termed "The Ten: Lamest Sporting Excuses" in The Observer, the following appeared:[14]
7 RUPERT LOWE The gammon-cheeked Southampton chairman blamed the sacking of Paul Sturrock on a 'constant stream of negative and unfair media coverage. Those people responsible for perpetrating this unsatisfactory situation, often in return for financial reward, should take a long hard look at themselves.' We presume Lowe possesses a mirror. Only a couple of weeks earlier he had stated: 'Paul has to deliver results, that is what he is paid for. The honeymoon period is over.' Best of British, Sir Clive. In 2010, Caitlin Moran wrote that British Prime Minister David Cameron resembled "a slightly camp gammon robot" and "a C3PO made of ham" in her 13 March column in The Times,[15] later collected in her 2012 anthology Moranthology.[16]
In 2015, Ruby Tandoh called Great British Bake Off judge Paul Hollywood a "walking gammon joint".[17]
In 2017, children's author Ben Davis tweeted a picture of nine members of a BBC Question Time audience and referred to them as "the Great Wall of Gammon",[18] leading to the term becoming popularised, particularly on social media.[17][19][20][21][22]
There is a new term of abuse in politics: a “gammon”. It refers to a middle-aged white man of a certain political persuasion. He is a Brexiteer. He is ugly. He is a conservative. He may wear hideous trousers. And, because he is a Brexiteer and so very ugly and a conservative who may wear hideous trousers, why not call him a gammon? Particularly if you are in politics to have fun, rather than to change minds.
an insulting reference to a middle-aged white male who angrily expresses his right-wing political views
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Post by Montegriffo on May 2, 2023 14:50:50 GMT
Every day's a school day Benny. Yes they can. School of fake news. No they can’t . Gorillas are apes is fake news? See me after class for extra lessons.
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Post by Bentley on May 2, 2023 14:53:34 GMT
School of fake news. No they can’t . Gorillas are apes is fake news? See me after class for extra lessons. Nope minty. The fake news is that gammons can be black people. It looks like only you believe it. Try to keep up.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 2, 2023 15:01:13 GMT
Christ, you're not another of Whoiney's sock puppets are you? We are all Einhorn's sock puppets. Except you. You're a Muppet. Aww, Monte. You say the nicest things.
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Post by Einhorn on May 2, 2023 16:04:56 GMT
We are all Einhorn's sock puppets. Except you. You're a Muppet. Aww, Monte. You say the nicest things. Were you being racist when you and the other gammons were remarking on Angela Rayner's 'ginger growler', Squeaky?
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Post by Einhorn on May 2, 2023 16:18:55 GMT
Marx: Build a house on a solid foundation. Russia: We built a house in the middle of a swamp. It flooded and almost sunk from view. Gammons: Ha! Ha! Marx’s plan failed!!! Communism is the swamp darling . Indeed, late capitalism is certainly a better place to live than early communism or early capitalism. Early capitalism and communism were 'swamps', for sure. As frequently mentioned, Marx predicted capitalist society would become increasingly socialist. A very recent example is the handouts during the Covid epidemic. In 20 years' time, the Conservatives will be even more socialist (God knows there's plenty of room for improvement). Obviously, this socialist evolution doesn't sit well with most gammons. You only have to look at the Westminster section of the board to see how unhappy they are with it.
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Post by Bentley on May 2, 2023 16:39:48 GMT
Communism is the swamp darling . Indeed, late capitalism is certainly a better place to live than early communism or early capitalism. Early capitalism and communism were 'swamps', for sure. As frequently mentioned, Marx predicted capitalist society would become increasingly socialist. A very recent example is the handouts during the Covid epidemic. In 20 years' time, the Conservatives will be even more socialist (God knows there's plenty of room for improvement). Obviously, this socialist evolution doesn't sit well with most gammons. You only have to look at the Westminster section of the board to see how unhappy they are with it. The covid ‘ hand out’ was not the work of a socialist government .
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Post by Einhorn on May 2, 2023 16:42:01 GMT
Indeed, late capitalism is certainly a better place to live than early communism or early capitalism. Early capitalism and communism were 'swamps', for sure. As frequently mentioned, Marx predicted capitalist society would become increasingly socialist. A very recent example is the handouts during the Covid epidemic. In 20 years' time, the Conservatives will be even more socialist (God knows there's plenty of room for improvement). Obviously, this socialist evolution doesn't sit well with most gammons. You only have to look at the Westminster section of the board to see how unhappy they are with it. The covid ‘ hand out’ was not the work of a socialist government . Which is exactly the point, Benny.
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Post by Bentley on May 2, 2023 16:47:11 GMT
The covid ‘ hand out’ was not the work of a socialist government . Which is exactly the point, Benny. Nope. The point is that the Covid handout isn’t an example of a capitalist society becoming increasingly socialist. Dont keep pretending that refuting your non points equates to confirming them.
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Post by Einhorn on May 2, 2023 16:52:14 GMT
Which is exactly the point, Benny. Nope. The point is that the Covid handout isn’t an example of a capitalist society becoming increasingly socialist. Dont keep pretending that refuting your non points equates to confirming them. Really? When the only electable right wing party in a country is implementing left-wing policies, that's a sure sign that Marx was right. The Tory's of Marx's time would never have agreed to such a thing. They would have dismissed it as out-and-out socialism. So, things are moving in the direction Marx predicted. And the movement will continue, so that in a couple of generations there will be something like a socialist state along the lines of Marx's model.
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Post by Bentley on May 2, 2023 16:57:47 GMT
Nope. The point is that the Covid handout isn’t an example of a capitalist society becoming increasingly socialist. Dont keep pretending that refuting your non points equates to confirming them. Really? When the only electable right wing party in a country is implementing left-wing policies, that's a sure sign that Marx was right. The Tory's of Marx's time would never have agreed to such a thing. They would have dismissed it as out-and-out socialism. So, things are moving in the direction Marx predicted. And the movement will continue, so that in a couple of generations there will be something like a socialist state along the lines of Marx's model. COVID furlough payments wasn’t an example of socialism. A feudal lord might give resources to the poor during a crisis. That doesn’t make the feudal system socialism.
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Post by Einhorn on May 2, 2023 16:59:00 GMT
Really? When the only electable right wing party in a country is implementing left-wing policies, that's a sure sign that Marx was right. The Tory's of Marx's time would never have agreed to such a thing. They would have dismissed it as out-and-out socialism. So, things are moving in the direction Marx predicted. And the movement will continue, so that in a couple of generations there will be something like a socialist state along the lines of Marx's model. COVID furlough payments wasn’t an example of socialism. A feudal lord might give resources to the poor during a crisis. That doesn’t make the feudal system socialism. Nobody's claiming that the UK is a socialist country. The only claim is that it is becoming increasingly socialist, just as Marx predicted.
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Post by Bentley on May 2, 2023 17:01:05 GMT
COVID furlough payments wasn’t an example of socialism. A feudal lord might give resources to the poor during a crisis. That doesn’t make the feudal system socialism. Nobody's claiming that the UK is a socialist country. The only claim is that it is becoming increasingly socialist, just as Marx predicted. An example of a government doing something that is NOT an indication that it is becoming increasingly socialist doesn’t support your claim that it is .😁
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Post by Einhorn on May 2, 2023 17:06:09 GMT
Nobody's claiming that the UK is a socialist country. The only claim is that it is becoming increasingly socialist, just as Marx predicted. An example of a government doing something that is NOT an indication that it is becoming increasingly socialist doesn’t support your claim that it is .😁 I'd take your assessment slightly more seriously if you hadn't claimed that ethnic cleansing was rampant in the UK earlier in this thread. Anyway, you might want to tell your gammon friends that they're only imagining 'cultural Marxism' the next thing they get into a feeding frenzy. It doesn't exist. There's nothing to worry about. Marxism is dead and buried. Don't worry that the Tory government has just made massive payments that a Tory government of 50 years ago would never have even considered, let alone a Tory government from Marx's time. Nothing to see here, Benny.
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