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Post by borchester on Apr 29, 2023 12:21:49 GMT
I can see that you are a snob, but not why you feel that you have anything to be snobbish about.
I dislike Tommy Robinson's stand against ethnics, but considering how many politicians turned a blind eye to the grooming scandals, I reckon there are a hell of a lot worse ones than him
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Post by thomas on Apr 29, 2023 12:24:40 GMT
without a doubt. I will go on to say as well if starmer doesnt sail to victory n the next general election , it could possibly be regarded as one of the greatest failures of open goal scoring by a british political leader in modern uk history.
If he cant win the next GE with all the stars that are curently aligning for him then he surely must quit politics in shame forevermore as his name goes into the history books of inept failures.
Along with Ms Sturgeon perhaps? Sturgeons gone but unlike starmer she at least won elections. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 29, 2023 12:34:07 GMT
I can see that you are a snob, but not why you feel that you have anything to be snobbish about.
I dislike Tommy Robinson's stand against ethnics, but considering how many politicians turned a blind eye to the grooming scandals, I reckon there are a hell of a lot worse ones than him
Am I a snob or a monkey? A snobbish monkey perhaps? Yaxley-Lennon is a convicted football hooligan and a convicted mortgage fraudster. He has been deported from the USA for trying to enter on a false passport. Not to mention time served for contempt of court. He's also a racist bigot. If you can name a man more unsuited to have a voice in politics I'd be interested to hear it. |
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Post by borchester on Apr 29, 2023 12:42:30 GMT
I can see that you are a snob, but not why you feel that you have anything to be snobbish about.
I dislike Tommy Robinson's stand against ethnics, but considering how many politicians turned a blind eye to the grooming scandals, I reckon there are a hell of a lot worse ones than him
Am I a snob or a monkey? A snobbish monkey perhaps? Yaxley-Lennon is a convicted football hooligan and a convicted mortgage fraudster. He has been deported from the USA for trying to enter on a false passport. Not to mention time served for contempt of court. He's also a racist bigot. If you can name a man more unsuited to have a voice in politics I'd be interested to hear it. How about every Rotherham politician who turned a blind eye a blind eye for decades to the abuse of thousands of vulnerable girls ? |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 29, 2023 12:47:25 GMT
Along with Ms Sturgeon perhaps? Sturgeons gone but unlike starmer she at least won elections. A pyrrhic victory for the SNP. Personally I think Starmer would be a disaster as PM as well. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 29, 2023 12:53:42 GMT
Am I a snob or a monkey? A snobbish monkey perhaps? Yaxley-Lennon is a convicted football hooligan and a convicted mortgage fraudster. He has been deported from the USA for trying to enter on a false passport. Not to mention time served for contempt of court. He's also a racist bigot. If you can name a man more unsuited to have a voice in politics I'd be interested to hear it. How about every Rotherham politician who turned a blind eye a blind eye for decades to the abuse of thousands of vulnerable girls ? Why blame the politicians and not the indifferent police? |
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Post by thomas on Apr 29, 2023 12:56:03 GMT
Sturgeons gone but unlike starmer she at least won elections. A pyrrhic victory for the SNP. Personally I think Starmer would be a disaster as PM as well. agreed on both counts , but my point stands that however bad strugeon was , she at least won elections unlike starmer , who even as far as by elections go in england , and national and local elections in scotland , as well as his disasterous generalship of wurzels brexit policy in 2019 , has been lamentable.
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Post by thomas on Apr 29, 2023 12:57:28 GMT
How about every Rotherham politician who turned a blind eye a blind eye for decades to the abuse of thousands of vulnerable girls ? Why blame the politicians and not the indifferent police? i always thought it was the labour politicians who instructed the polis and social services etc else to cover rotherham up monte? |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 29, 2023 12:57:59 GMT
A pyrrhic victory for the SNP. Personally I think Starmer would be a disaster as PM as well. agreed on both counts , but my point stands that however bad strugeon was , she at least won elections unlike starmer , who even as far as by elections go in england , and national and local elections in scotland , as well as his disasterous generalship of wurzels brexit policy in 2019 , has been lamentable.
Do you think that Starmers lameness will affect Scottish Labour candidates? |
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Post by thomas on Apr 29, 2023 13:03:29 GMT
agreed on both counts , but my point stands that however bad strugeon was , she at least won elections unlike starmer , who even as far as by elections go in england , and national and local elections in scotland , as well as his disasterous generalship of wurzels brexit policy in 2019 , has been lamentable.
Do you think that Starmers lameness will affect Scottish Labour candidates? i think a lot of labour politicians in general in scotland , and many of the local party members ( or whats left of them by reports) are unhappy in the extreme with starmers leadership from what im reading. His stance for example on brexit and nationalisation not to mention voting reform are deeply unpopular , not to mention he is seen as a red tory.
It remains to be seen in the next general election bentley what happens in terms of starmers unpopualrity versus useless and the snp failing support. I suspect as things stand a bit of a dogs breakfast.
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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 29, 2023 13:21:54 GMT
Why blame the politicians and not the indifferent police? i always thought it was the labour politicians who instructed the polis and social services etc else to cover rotherham up monte? Perhaps. However the police were disinclined to take action in the first place. Considering the victims to be ''white trash'' who shouldn't have been out on their own late at night in the first place. A kind of ''what did you expect'' response to their complaints. |
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Post by thomas on Apr 29, 2023 13:26:08 GMT
i always thought it was the labour politicians who instructed the polis and social services etc else to cover rotherham up monte? Perhaps. However the police were disinclined to take action in the first place. Considering the victims to be ''white trash'' who shouldn't have been out on their own late at night in the first place. A kind of ''what did you expect'' response to their complaints. sure so in answer to your earlier post why not blame both politicians and police as well as social services rather than picking and choosing?
Surely the police and social services were lower down the pecking order of power , and as we know are in such a fear of the politicians labelling them as racist and using them as scapegoats for their failings over immigration and societys cohesion that the police became dysfunctional when dealing with issues of race?
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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 29, 2023 13:38:01 GMT
Perhaps. However the police were disinclined to take action in the first place. Considering the victims to be ''white trash'' who shouldn't have been out on their own late at night in the first place. A kind of ''what did you expect'' response to their complaints. sure so in answer to your earlier post why not blame both politicians and police as well as social services rather than picking and choosing?
That's what I was getting at with my question ''Why blame the politicians and not the indifferent police?'' |
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Post by thomas on Apr 29, 2023 13:47:21 GMT
sure so in answer to your earlier post why not blame both politicians and police as well as social services rather than picking and choosing?
That's what I was getting at with my question ''Why blame the politicians and not the indifferent police?'' I think many people have blamed the police as well , but my point stands the polis, surely you agree, are mere tools of the politicians home policies , and as such not fit for purpose in many occassions when dealing with issues of race such as rotherham?
What i read about rotherham show clearly the labour councillors and politicians like naz shah came out of this debacle rather far more poorly than the polis , hence the outrage?
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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 29, 2023 13:55:46 GMT
That's what I was getting at with my question ''Why blame the politicians and not the indifferent police?'' I think may people have blamed the police as well , but my point stands the polis, surely you agree, are mere tools of the politicians home policies , and as such not fit for purpose in many occassions when dealing with issues of race such as rotherham?
What i read about rotherham show clearly the labour councillors and politicians like naz shah came out of this debacle rather far more poorly than the polis , hence the outrage?
The parents should also accept some responsibility. |
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